MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

[andyprough]

ok making this change:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

resulted in this change:

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$ sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

That's the first error I ran into. And then when I forced my way past that, there were many other dependency errors. And then after a bit of experimenting, I had a bricked vm with no networking, and thus no ability to accomplish anything with apt. Might be worth trying it on a plain vanilla Debian or Devuan vm. Maybe there's something about the way that MX pins its repos that makes it harder to work with Experimental.

[MAYBL8]

This is a good exercise in learning how this works anyway.
There must be some way to do this or people couldn't do the testing they are asking for?

[andyprough]

This is a good exercise in learning how this works anyway.
There must be some way to do this or people couldn't do the testing they are asking for?

Yup, I think it works on Debian and Devuan, but not on MX. I just ran a live Devuan ISO in a vm and changed the repos to this ("ceres" is Devuan's version of Sid):

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deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main

I did an apt update but not an apt upgrade, and then 'apt -t experimental install kate', to see what it would do just installing the KDE text editor. It installed a ton of stuff, including the 5.20.4 versions of kacvitivtymanagerd and kwayland-integration. Right now it's showing KDE Frameworks 5.74.0 and Qt 5.15.2 (built against 5.15.2). KDE Frameworks is behind your Sid version of 5.76, but Qt is ahead of your Sid version of 5.15.1.

So, it looks like it basically works in a Debian/Devuan setup, at least from my quick look at a Devuan live environment. The only repos I had active were:

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deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main

- all other repos were commented out. I'll fully install Devuan into a vm and play with it some more. Probably will end up bricking this vm also fairly soon, as I'm mixing Debian's experimental with Devuan's unstable. But, it has basic workability. kate works fine.

[andyprough]

Exciting news today - Norbert's latest packages have been accepted into Debian unstable!

https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/12/ ... -bullseye/

So they are nearly certain to make it into Bullseye, and we can have the latest while staying with Sid repos. Instructions in the blog post.

[MAYBL8]

I must have messed up something.
I can't get any updates to work:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

[asqwerth]

I doubt your install will work with buster repos still there. I think only pure Sid packages and repos will work at this stage.

[MAYBL8]

No change:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:2 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

[norbert]

First of all I suggest using the apps2012 repository ... ooh, I haven't written about it, but it is there, just replace "apps2008" with "apps2012" ;-)

[MAYBL8]

Still the same problem with libc6-dev

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 

[MAYBL8]

I installed gcc-8-base per a google search, after many removals and adds with dist-upgrade I am now here:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
6 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up locales (2.31-6) ...
Can't exec "debconf-kde-helper": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde.pm line 43.
Unable to execute debconf-kde-helper - is debconf-kde-helper installed?dpkg: error processing package locales (--configure):
 installed locales package post-installation script subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Setting up tzdata (2020e-1) ...
Can't exec "debconf-kde-helper": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde.pm line 43.
Unable to execute debconf-kde-helper - is debconf-kde-helper installed?dpkg: error processing package tzdata (--configure):
 installed tzdata package post-installation script subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ntp:
 ntp depends on tzdata; however:
  Package tzdata is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package ntp (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libtcl8.6:amd64:
 libtcl8.6:amd64 depends on tzdata; however:
  Package tzdata is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package libtcl8.6:amd64 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tcl8.6:
 tcl8.6 depends on libtcl8.6 (>= 8.6.0); however:
  Package libtcl8.6:amd64 is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package tcl8.6 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tcl:
 tcl depends on tcl8.6 (>= 8.6.10+dfsg-1~); however:
  Package tcl8.6 is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package tcl (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 locales
 tzdata
 ntp
 libtcl8.6:amd64
 tcl8.6
 tcl
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)