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Hi,

Since MX Linux became the most popular linux distribution, have you ever considered to change your logo to something more modern and professional ?
I'm sorry to sound a bit harsh (specially for my first post here ), but the actual logo looks really outdated and doesn't fit really well with the standing and the quality of this excellent distribution.

1. What makes you think that MX is 'the the most popular linux distribution'?
2. The logo looks modern and professional enough to me. Can you show us your more modern and professional version?

Jackseller wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:43 am Hi,

Since MX Linux became the most popular linux distribution, have you ever considered to change your logo to something more modern and professional ?
I'm sorry to sound a bit harsh (specially for my first post here ), but the actual logo looks really outdated and doesn't fit really well with the standing and the quality of this excellent distribution.

Given that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, it is extremely difficult to please everyone (maybe even anyone???) with an(any?) artistic design. Given the current retro rage for things, I'm quite certain I do not really know what modern is or means. I'm pretty certain 10 people might have 8 different opinions... maybe even per person and topic. :lipsrsealed:

Having said that, and in the spirit of open systems, I would encourage you to put forth suggestions that you believe strongly offer a positive and constructive improvement over the status quo.

There are other versions of the MX Linux logo here that might be more to your liking. https://mxlinux.org/art/ The other alternative is depending on your artistic abilities you can design your own in Gimp and ask the developers if you can add it to MX Art.

Mauser wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:08 am There are other versions of the MX Linux logo here that might be more to your liking. https://mxlinux.org/art/ The other alternative is depending on your artistic abilities you can design your own in Gimp and ask the developers if you can add it to MX Art.

Inkscape would probably be a better choice, since a resolution-independent SVG vector image format is preferable.

Jackseller wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:43 am Hi,

Since MX Linux became the most popular linux distribution, have you ever considered to change your logo to something more modern and professional ?
I'm sorry to sound a bit harsh (specially for my first post here ), but the actual logo looks really outdated and doesn't fit really well with the standing and the quality of this excellent distribution.

Hi Jackseller, welcome to the MX forum.

I don't think MX is the most popular. But it is a great distro! What do you consider "modern and professional"?

I'm not sure what modern is. Is stable modern? Reliable? Excellent? I think MX does a pretty fine job of providing an excellent tool for even the most demanding modern worker to get their work done. And I would guess that a designer would modify their own Linux system to suit they're need for perfect form. Maybe even using MX as a base. Or maybe not. Maybe they'll use a MAC instead. Who knows?

I certainly think MX is professional. The developers know how to make a stable system available to the public and pay attention to the need of it's users. They are responsive and accountable. Is that all shown in a logo? Or does the logo become associated with those qualities?

Am I so old fashioned that I don't choose my tools based on the logo? When I came to antiX and MX I did not think about their logo. But I did think they were professional. And I have learned that they are modern. Many other distros have gone away. But MX remains in the pantheon of stable Debian derivatives. Still here in 2020. That's pretty modern to me.

I realize I am being a little antagonistic. But you did open the door, even suggesting embarrassment. I just think this idea that the logo is outdated and doesn't fit is so subjective. Who decides what fits?

Now, you may have some great ideas about logos. Maybe you're even right about the logo. But I do not personally agree. How many are like me and don't let the logo get in their way of using a great distro? If you are right then maybe as time goes by you can contribute to some artwork that appeals to your own aesthetic. I would have no problem if the developers decide to change the logo. But shouldn't you try to first try to make MX "fit" and see how it can work for you before you share your own distaste for the logo?

Seaken64

Re: "more modern and professional"

Sounds like the baloney they sell in school these days. The logo is fine.

With MEPIS I remember that we kept changing the logo, that's a pain from design point of view and brand consistency, I'd be happy if we stick with one logo for a long period of time.

I personally think the current logo is great.

For those that weren't around for the many conversations about the logo... here is a good one.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=52295&hilit=logo

First of all, as a non native english speaker, i try to do my best to be understood. I'm sorry if some of my formulations sound like "the baloney they sell in school these days"...

I'm using MX Linux for a while alongside with Manjaro. Both are excellent distros.

According to the numerous discussions on different forums and the ranking on Distrowatch, MX Linux and Manjaro seem to be currently the most popular desktop distros.

About the logo, it was just a question and i was expressing my opinion.
Having a little experience in graphic design, I started yesterday to sketch something with Inkscape after my initial post.
But reading the reactions to my message today, my suggestion seems to have irritated some people.
It was not at all my intention. I just wanted to help.

So I'm going to stop the discussion here and please accept my apologies if I offended some people.

No worries, nobody (relevant) gets offended so easily, but people have different opinions.

Since you have graphic design experience, why not contribute some wallpaper/icon artwork for the distro?

Post your contributions here, for the benefit and enjoyment of other users:
viewforum.php?f=116

We often use at least some of users' submitted wallpapers in the next MX release.

Sometimes, users' icon designs might also make it into the MX repos or even the next release.

I don't think anybody was offended by your sharing your opinion, but you have to expect some push back with some other opinions. Some of us think the logo is fine, some don't.

Seaken64

It's a difficult discussion, but just a little bit,
Jackseller, I kind of understand what you mean.
It's true that the current MX logo is a little bit unmodern from a design standpoint.

However, it is necessary to cherish the concept of the fusion of Mepis and antiX,
and since the existing logo is loved by everyone,
it would be desirable to keep it as a concept.

Personally, I am concerned that the circular pattern that Mepis had is spoiled.
That circle has a religious feel to it and I personally like it.

I made a design prototype from the viewpoint of "How would I design if I was an old member?"
Inspired by MX's splash screen, the design is "looking up at the mountain of religion from the horizon".
If you need the ".ai data" of the master, please send me a PM.

That is a wonderful design!

...and I couldn't resist having a quick fiddle with @Freja's lovely design

... and as overlay image in conky
nice work @Freja

thanks,everyone.

@ceeslans
Oh, it looks like this. It's natural.
And the cursive letters match this logo very well.
Fashionable.

By the way, this logo is just a (just) idea. I don't think it will be adopted
because the conventional logo is great. Just in case.
(But if everyone wants it, yes.)

I have high resolution version of 6000px over.

Melber wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:01 am ...and I couldn't resist having a quick fiddle with @Freja's lovely design

freja-logo128.png

Fantastic mod @Melber on @Freja's design! So much can be done with such great underlying structure.

Ok, thank you for suggesting something new/alternative and for your efforts, but (just as an ordinary / amateur person):

Why the two horizontal lines below?
Why grey (for the 1st design) ?

Especially: Am I the only one who thinks this?:

This time the X looks like a "banned" "forbidden" "do not" ... kind of warning signage.

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:04 am Ok, thank you for suggesting something new/alternative and for your efforts, but (just as an ordinary / amateur person):

Why the two horizontal lines below?
Why grey (for the 1st design) ?

Especially: Am I the only one who thinks this?:

This time the X looks like a "banned" "forbidden" "do not" ... kind of warning signage.

This is a slightly confusing result. pure,
single horizontal line might be better.

As a result of centering X,
It can certainly have a negative connotation.

Please give me some time.
I got a response, so I'll try to improve it.

A good design is improved by user criticism, crushed and polished,
In many cases it will work better.
Therefore, such comments should be welcomed.

This is a modified version based on Huckleberry Finn and i_ri's exact opinion.
I have uploaded a high-resolution .png
There is a clear improvement. Thanks.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

hello Jackseller and everyone
Hello Freja
One say, Oh my. That is a marvelous companion MX for the one named Bullseye.
One say, I don't know what it is, but I think it has four legs.
One, "old member" type objective, say, Mepis was a whirl. Today MX logo is a very bold statement of strength and durability. May it stand.

now (the bullseye moved. no more four legged. aww. erase the lower left leg of x? )

Hi,


Comments below = opinion, nothing more...

I don't want to lose any friends but as much as I absolutely LOVE MX and everything about it I'm not generally a fan of it's logo and I'm especially not a fan of the Logo font, Fonts are a dicy thing and it is very easy for a font to get get dated or have the 'Comic Sans' effect. I think the MX Font comes across as a bit too errr uhmm... superficial. It's like one of those larabie fonts that you think is unique so you try it but a week later you reconsider...

MX is a HUGE player in the Linux world, it's popular because it is excellent, it is not a 'hidden gem' any longer and in my opinion it's logo has not evolved like what it represents has... Just being real, no disrespect to anyone, HUGE respect to this project as a whole! Just putting that out there..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

AVLinux, we made the font closer to the image of the logo.
The thickness of the letters has been adjusted to more than double.

I'm sorry for my full hobby.

dolphin_oracle,
I made it a clean, system-like font with no habits.

[Font: Gilroy Font Free]
https://www.dafontfree.io/gilroy-font-family/

@Freja

I enjoy your work and you are a talented artist!

Again, just opinions but I thing the logo is a great concept but the lines are too thin, if I were working on it it I would make it bolder and make the lines double the thickness at least.. Also MX is technology not art or literature, I personally don't think any kind of cursive or handwritten text is a good fit, Bolder lines in the logo would open more options for a bolder fonts..

I feel I've come to the party too late and have too much to say already...

I think when dealing with logos, dealing with the graphic without text should be foremost.

I really like the version with the two lines and the X behind the mountain.

(in Japan hours) I'm going to Assembling plastic parts work early tomorrow morning,
so I've gone to bed because I've gotten to the best part. Goodnight.
It's 1:23 AM.

Melber wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:00 am freja-logo-inverse128.png

Interesting twist! What if the mountains were not solid white and had an inset black area only leaving an outline..

I have a question about the mountains... I know they represent Mepis and I know Mepis is a crucially important part of the history of MX but it's now 2023 almost a decade since MX rose from the ashes of Mepis. It seems to me it's the mountains (or pyramids?) that make an MX Logo difficult to work with, they look great on their own but combining something with them is where things get complicated, If people are brainstorming updated logo ideas... I have to ask.. Is paying homage to Mepis still a driving need in any new or updated logo of a current product that has come into it's own..?

I am not inordinately attached to the mountains-pyramids-X. I do have a bit of nostalgia for Mepis, being an early and continuous user until it ended. And hence a logo that harks back to it. But would have no problem with something completely different.

richb wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:52 pm I am not inordinately attached to the mountains-pyramids-X. I do have a bit of nostalgia for Mepis, being an early and continuous user until it ended. And hence a logo that harks back to it. But would have no problem with something completely different.

Me neither. I like the clean look of Freja's proposals.

It's amazing how many brands with some kind of MX logo exist https://www.google.com/search?q=mx+logo ... 20&bih=933

I'm going to be very interested to see what @asqwerth thinks of all this the next time she cruises past.

Imho "logo" needs to be simple and clean looking. Especially when it's a small icon everything will easily make it look blurred / hazy ... Otherwise, everything looks fine for a wallpaper: Clouds, mountains, A "rising" sun, a nice looking "handscript" ..

Just remember the "Mercedes-Benz" logo.. The simplest shape on Earth.. 3 lines in a circle.
Anything related to "Karl Benz"? No. "Gottlieb Daimler"? No. Year of foundation 1800s etc.? No. Germany etc..? No. Anything that reminds power/quality/engine ..? No.


Or.. "Volks Wagen": Just a nested V and W letters.

Hewlett-Packard? Just an h and a p in a circle.

Sony? Just 4 letters: SONY (that simple).


The simplest it is, the cleanest ("twenty-twenty") look will be especially when it's small (i.e. the Whisker menu icon on panel).

So: imho it should be just an M and an X together. Either in a square or a circle (that way it'll be easy to fit (good looking) everywhere)

Maybe just an MX , or 2 letters "nested" (something like the VW logo upside down (that looks like MX)... )

For every "simple', "clean" logo you mentioned there is a more intricate colorful logo of successful companies. Not intending to be negative. Just to point out there are different opinions on the subject.

EDIT: An argument for clean and simple: It did occur to me that a simple, clean logo would be more universal with different wallpapers. The choice of default wallpaper and logo need to be compatible.

The direction of the designs of freja, melber and the other suggestions are a joy to look at. Looking forward to what is coming up.

I'm a fan of clean and simple myself, FWIW.

Jerry3904 wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:58 pm I'm a fan of clean and simple myself, FWIW.

Obviously I am in a minority. Not the first time, I often find myself there.

Adrian wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:27 pm It's amazing how many brands with some kind of MX logo exist https://www.google.com/search?q=mx+logo ... 20&bih=933

A lot of these logos are designed and posted online but not associated with a brand. And many are available royalty free. I post some of these for thought and perhaps inspiration if someone wants to design something similar. I converted all to B&W, but color helps some logos.

X over deltas. I thought mx is debranded. (?)
push the envelope with logolike but not with text.
text script, especially that connected, looks like bad neon.
all the clever and beautiful mx icons will not change (?)

freja to run out of strength...



https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

Font is Gilroy.

Only Logo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

The result was to learn the strength of the conventional logo.
My new logo is good in sleekness.

Could someone please improve this?

an aspect of font the M was once intended chosen to best exchange with the M character inverse, a W. Warren Woodford. have you seen that hidden in a reflection?
details, stories, history,

Read before continue:

This is not a proposal for a new logo, in fact I like the current, maybe is not the best, but I think does a pretty good job. Like if were a "patito feo".

So this is just having fan around this topic.




"Stella parit solem ~ rosa florem forma decorem"


MX-23FB Codename: Twent3
Nickname: Tiahuanaco

Thanks for sharing

Amiga-MX , I am panning out from your image and i see roadside-like signs printed
The pyramids
Free parking
Free internet

@i_ri

Could be that...

"Stella parit solem ~ rosa florem forma decorem"

Alright, now that we've all gotten excited about a new logo, I do want to ask something which will very probably rain on this parade.

Is it really a good idea for MX to change its logo during this stage of the game? I fear the logo change is probably gonna reset the "brand awareness" that MX currently has, even if the new logo is better looking. Like it or not, people know MX by the old logo, and the old logo has been there for years now.

If we were still really small, we could get away with it. Or if we were Ubuntu's size, we could get away with it too, but I don't think any logo change when we're right in the middle is a good idea.

@Arnox

My answer to your question is no, is not a good idea.

I just have to chime in that I admire the effort to dig up a topic that was laying dead for three years.

To clarify, I was not proposing to change the mx logo.
I just like fiddling with graphics (see the mx fluxbox screenshots thread) and saw some potential in the logo.
Will perhaps use it to make a wallpaper, if that's ok with you @Freja

Good day everyone,

Here is my logo variant. If anyone is interested please let me know and I can share the .svg files

Saludos

Arnox wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:28 am Alright, now that we've all gotten excited about a new logo, I do want to ask something which will very probably rain on this parade.

Is it really a good idea for MX to change its logo during this stage of the game? I fear the logo change is probably gonna reset the "brand awareness" that MX currently has, even if the new logo is better looking. Like it or not, people know MX by the old logo, and the old logo has been there for years now.

If we were still really small, we could get away with it. Or if we were Ubuntu's size, we could get away with it too, but I don't think any logo change when we're right in the middle is a good idea.

Hi,

I think this is a good point in principle but a project the size of MX will not even skip a beat with a logo change, i changed the AV Linux logo last year and of course I am a MUCH small project but still consistently in the DW top 100 and there was zero fallout. People are in love with MX because it's incredible not because of brand recognition with the logo.. You simply time the logo change with a major release, make it a big deal in the release announcement and it appears in a few popular tech blog articles and that's it... onward and upward

I am also strongly in the 'clean' and simple camp, make it simple, memorable and iconic...(literally and figuratively). And why is 'Linux' often in the logo of Distros..? You will know within a millisecond of reading that it is Linux, MacOS doesn't say "MacOS-BSD" and Windows doesn't say Windows-DOS. I'm also guilty I did the same for years but if you study many of the mainstream Distros like Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, openSUSE they have strongly unmistakable symbol first and foremost... sure it may be presented with text some of the time but the symbols on their own tell you what you're dealing with..

Amigo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:18 am Good day everyone,

Here is my logo variant. If anyone is interested please let me know and I can share the .svg files

Saludos

VERY interesting!!

Glad you like it!

Saludos

Nice design, I think this might work better on buttons, like the start menu.

It also looks more in line with the current logo, not a completely different style.

Amigo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:18 am Here is my logo variant. If anyone is interested please let me know and I can share the .svg files

Yes, very nice @Amigo! It emphasizes the M whereas the old logo emphasizes the X. My family calls the old logo the “windmill” in part because they don’t see it as an MX representation, just a big X.

It would make a good Panel button in B&W or a color like red & green.

Antediluvian wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:45 am

Amigo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:18 am Here is my logo variant. If anyone is interested please let me know and I can share the .svg files

Yes, very nice @Amigo! It emphasizes the M whereas the old logo emphasizes the X. My family calls the old logo the “windmill” in part because they don’t see it as an MX representation, just a big X.

It would make a good Panel button in B&W or a color like red & green.

Hi, that's funny I see the same thing, the X being square does put out a tremendous Windmill vibe... I thought all those years with my Dutch ex had indoctrinated me but it's comforting to know others see it too!

Here is an example of how it looks on the panel

Amigo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:47 pm Here is an example of how it looks on the panel

Great work so far! Another good test will be how does it look in a square or round icon for things like various MX Tools or Menu buttons or Dialogs etc.. One thing about Freja's Logo work earlier in the thread is I don't know how the thin lines and text would scale down to icons and buttons...?

Amigo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 12:47 pm Here is an example of how it looks on the panel

@Amigo : great design as usual (I really like your mxfb-bird too).
here's my slightly-morphed take on your mx-logo, displayed in a conky overlay.

Amigo's logo design is bold and innovative,
and has a high degree of perfection and practicality.

If MX steps up from tradition,
Sounds like a great update.
I dream of the MX-23 with this built in.

(My keep-concept design is like
"Italian cars that look good but are fragile"...
This is my weak point. Lack of practicality.)

Was mxfb-bird designed by amigo!
I've loved that one for a long time.

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:04 pm Imho "logo" needs to be simple and clean looking. Especially when it's a small icon everything will easily make it look blurred / hazy ... Otherwise, everything looks fine for a wallpaper: Clouds, mountains, A "rising" sun, a nice looking "handscript" ..

Just remember the "Mercedes-Benz" logo.. The simplest shape on Earth.. 3 lines in a circle.
Anything related to "Karl Benz"? No. "Gottlieb Daimler"? No. Year of foundation 1800s etc.? No. Germany etc..? No. Anything that reminds power/quality/engine ..? No.


Or.. "Volks Wagen": Just a nested V and W letters.

Hewlett-Packard? Just an h and a p in a circle.

Sony? Just 4 letters: SONY (that simple).


The simplest it is, the cleanest ("twenty-twenty") look will be especially when it's small (i.e. the Whisker menu icon on panel).

So: imho it should be just an M and an X together. Either in a square or a circle (that way it'll be easy to fit (good looking) everywhere)

Maybe just an MX , or 2 letters "nested" (something like the VW logo upside down (that looks like MX)... )

I can't agree more with the entirety of Huck's post quoted above. I claim no artistic or graphics expertise, but spent the last 18 years of my work life in an outfit that produced branded products, and everything he says is dead on. The best, most recognizable designs are always clean and simple and unmistakable. You want a logo for MX Linux? Duh, how about the letters MX? If you need to add some kind of design element to it, make it clean.

I'm watching the football game this evening with the Giants and the Eagles. Check out the Giants helmet logo. Any question where they're from? Hell, steal that design concept -- make it MX with a line under it that's tied to the X extended below.

Thank you all for your comments

@Freja
I think it's good that you keep posting with your own and unique style even if you saw fragile lines as a weakness (I disagree on that).
It's your own and unique style and that only enriches diversity and creativity for all and that can't be bad or wrong in any sense

About your design I really like it (MX-logo tesiting 10). I don´t know why but reminds me of California.

I think that for small places the thin lines are not going to work, but for wallpapers and conkies for sure (So it's functional)

@ceeslans
I'm also a fan of your Fluxbox setups (designs) contemporary and clean!

I am attaching the logo .svg files for those who want to use them. Feel free to use it (Modify, recolor it, etc.)
https://www.deviantart.com/apiecethatsp ... -946178317

Saludos

I tried to summarize what has happened so far.

A person argued that the existing MX logo was not modern.
Although there was some initial shock to the community,
Some people tried to improve with the keep concept.
He tried but failed.
While the discussion of the new logo is repeated,
A completely new concept logo has been announced by Amigo.

Currently, the Amigo's MX logo is generally well received,
The debate is still ongoing.

It could be,
"We know the existing logo is close to the best, but
some people are getting a little stuck with the existing logo."

I'm waiting for the appearance of Ms. asqwerth.

In my case. I just did it for fun.
I like the original and only MX logo
I share the one I made in case someone want to use it or just play with it.
My intentions are not at all to change the original logo for the one I made.

Amigo wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:37 pm In my case. I just did it for fun.
I like the original and only MX logo
I share the one I made in case someone want to use it or just play with it.
My intentions are not at all to change the original logo for the one I made.

About 10 years ago, something like this happened in Japan.

Sony CEO Nobuyuki Idei tried to revamp the SONY logo.
Many proposals were submitted from all over the country,
but none were superior to the value of the existing logo,
and in the end it was not renewed.

MX may be like that too.

The MX logo already exists beyond cool and uncool.
It's a trust and love for the distribution.
like Sony's case, great because it doesn't change. I thought it might be.

I think this case is meaningful because it clarified
the importance of "not changing MX for a long time".

If you think about it, it's not good for branding to make new changes right away.

trustworthy distribution needs is
"unchangeable reliability".

PS. Sony is no longer in the manufacturing industry, so it's not good.

At least it's not new KIA logo...

The good thing is that we are having fun. And many designs are popping around.

It is not strictly necessary to match a logo for a change. For example the beauty design that @Amigo presented. Perhaps, maybe will don't match with the app launcher icon size (we need to test it). However we all well can get benefits from everyone's design, for many uses.

At the other side if we see that a winner design, I mean real life winner design test and shows to be a real match. Just by pure demonstration oh it's value, I think could be adopted.

Don't see other sense, to have fun, to blend in activities, and going forward. For that, what we need is an step back on the solid Z reference.
The idea is not to do the hamster role that I played before @Amigo came into rescue.

Of course I also wish to see soon at @asqwerth around in action.

Thank you for reading

Uncle Mark
NY
a place

MX
it is not a place [uuuh Mexico]

MX
ME [uuuuh Maine]

mx needs a symbol that indicates tech, cloud, www, What is today's designation that means small computer operating system? an icon. We clamored momentarily with the idea of iMX or eMX. used to mean something and it passed.
A #good one came along, but remains in the hands of a service. #MX. #mx.
We need a sign that means no bricks, cloud only.
dot com MX.COM short and sweet we are not there.com.


mx mx mx mx mx mx mx
me me me me me me me

mx me.
Gregg shorthand dictionary

Something to keep in mind: you cannot and will never please everyone. One will say yay, the other nay, and when you change a minor thing to please the nay, the yay goes ugh.


Another thing: your work may never get used, and things will stay as they are. It's up to you to throw in a lot of effort, but realize that you could very well be doing it for naught. You have to be ok with that.

@Eadwine Rose
+1

Just a tiny addition to my examples:

There are also bad examples. The first one that comes to mind is "Subaru" .

Hoping not to be misunderstood, not the car/company/their quality ... just the logo.


Furthermore, the logo is "not ugly", it's even nice looking ..but just when it's a big picture..

When it's a badge on the car or a small icon on pc/phone.. all those stars (like the Australian flag) are lost, no one will even notice there are stars, one is bigger cause that represents the island A .. etc.. and they just cause the whole thing look misty, unclear... Therefore, even a plain SUBARU would be better imho.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

My passion for MX improvement is real.
I never gave up and improved.

Emphasizing the "stamp-like" feeling when built into the system,
following the conventional concept as much as possible,
I designed it in the direction of adjusting the overall balance with the
“design that hides the left leg of X” that dolphin_oracle liked.
(I also made a version with circles, just in case.)


https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

Even if you make this small or see it from a distance, it is OK.

PS. The SONY logo has also changed the overall balance,
such as the weight of the typeface,
several times to match the times. It's a keep concept.

Of course, this is just one suggestion.
I don't want to lose my friend, so I'll wait and see.


Latest more Bold line ver.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

Adrian wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:14 pm At least it's not new KIA logo...

LOL. That's one I actually think was well done. We'll see how it ages.

Freja wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:08 am
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

My passion for MX improvement is real.
I never gave up and improved.

Emphasizing the "stamp-like" feeling when built into the system,
following the conventional concept as much as possible,
I designed it in the direction of adjusting the overall balance with the
“design that hides the left leg of X” that dolphin_oracle liked.
(I also made a version with circles, just in case.)


https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

Even if you make this small or see it from a distance, it is OK.

PS. The SONY logo has also changed the overall balance,
such as the weight of the typeface,
several times to match the times. It's a keep concept.

Of course, this is just one suggestion.
I don't want to lose my friend, so I'll wait and see.

Wow, that's coming along very nicely!

only the balance changed
There is no change in the essence of the design.
In other words, even if renewed
To the user, "Is it a little new?"
I think it just seems

But if the left and right logos are
If it existed at the beginning of MX history,
Which would you choose?
(Although it is mostly a matter of individual senses.)

I'll admit, like Jackseller, I turned a blind eye to (the balance of) the logo.
I couldn't help but feel that it was a little unfashionable compared to other distribution logos.
My beloved MX wants the balance of the logo to be the coolest in the world.

People might think he(me)'s a silly passionate idiot.
You might think it's a small thing. It takes a lot of effort to system change.

But I figured if the logo of my beloved distro was even make slightly cooler, I'd give it a try.

Maybe this case will play out as Eadwine Rose says.
Hopefully, you think he(me)'s a lovable idiot.

With that response most definitely haha!

Thanks for tagging me, @Jerry3904 @Freja . I have been really occupied with real life.

My thoughts:
1. I would not mind changing to a more modern font. Agree with @AVLinux 's points

2. I am ok with the current MX logo but the thing that bugged me about it was that it was not that symmetrical. It always felt slanted to the right in my eyes, esp when placed within a box.

3. So if I am to consider whether any of the proposals here would be an improvement in terms of balance, yet with a callback to the current logo, I would say that Freja's original logo, as modified by @8bit here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 92#p709792 would be something I would consider. The partial circle surrounding the logo, with the "X" more centred within, makes it work. Then having 8bit's idea of hiding the bottom bits of the X helps by reducing the number of lines in the logo -- Cleaner look.

@Melber 's variation of 8bit's also works in this respect, https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 99#p709799 though I still prefer 8bit's take on Freja's original as being cleaner.

Overall this look is nice and square, and will fit on a button.

Freja's layout and proposed font here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 68#p709868 , will work with 8bit's variation for things like say a banner or title.

Freja's subsequent logos give me the same lopsided feel as our current logo, so wouldn't be an improvement IMO.


4. If we wanted a complete change to something very modern, @Amigo 's logo here https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 37#p709937 is great, but because it's a bit too horizontally long, I would prefer it squashed as suggested by @ceeslans here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 98#p709998

That way, it will fit in a more square button for things like icons. Otherwise it will take up too much horizontal space on a panel.

It's very cool, and I really like the "forward movement" energy it exudes. My one reservation is that for some reason I keep seeing a masked cartoon cat's face in that logo, haha.

5. I don't think we are big enough to suffer from loss of "brand" recognition just because of a change of logo. I think people know us more as MX Linux rather than know us from the logo.

6. No idea yet if we are actually going to change the logo, that is something for the Dev team to discuss (we hadn't thought about it!). But certainly, the 2 ideas above deserve some consideration.


Kudos to all involved in coming up with and/or modifying the various logos: in particular Freja, 8bit, Melber, Amigo, ceeslans

Useful and insightful, as always.

I took asqwerth's request and improved it to "stamp design".
I leave it to the members to judge whether this design proposal is good or bad.





Very high resolution transparent .png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

Work point:
At Freja early model, Good visibility even when resized.
(Do not change the impression as much as possible.)

I am also a little busy, doing light parts assembly work and small design office work,
so I think there will be times when I can't reply for a while.
I try to check the forums as much as possible.

That's very handsome, though I wonder if it would get lost on a dark background.

Jerry3904 wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:06 am That's very handsome, though I wonder if it would get lost on a dark background.

OK, I'll do it!





https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

I have some confidence in this.

PS. The princess is finally back!

Excellent, thanks. Now you can go back to work!

Freja wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:24 am
OK, I'll do it!





https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

I have some confidence in this.

PS. The princess is finally back!

Have to admit this is still too lopsided for me. I like the X to be centred like here:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 62#p709762

Can you do a version of your latest logo with the X in the centre?

I create it. please wait a little bit.

The asymmetry of the mountains as a foundation to work around is a big part of what pulls they eye in the original logo and it's derivatives, any ideas without the mountains...? If only to see the potential of a new logo without them? I'm not really a graphic artist, I can combine existing things and get by sometimes but not good at creating from scratch..

Have to admit this is still too lopsided for me. I like the X to be centred like here:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 62#p709762

Can you do a version of your latest logo with the X in the centre?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

By centering the X
Because the overall balance changes dramatically,
I was forced to do a major overhaul (total rebalance).

So I will rebuild,
I decided the design going little drastic.

A clock-like composition and a magic circle pattern
And the familiar M + X.
I expressed "(MX's) world, world's (MX)".

I ran out of potential. I'm tired.

Just for the record;

asqwerth wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:29 am8bit's idea of hiding the bottom bits of the X helps by reducing the number of lines in the logo -- Cleaner look.

I started with ceeslans' image; simplified both the X and the lower lines, and added a little space between MX and Linux.
8bit

Good day everyone

Thanks for the feedback @asqwerth and @AVLinux

I'm attaching

The modify files with the modifications and tests requested and suggested

1.- Squashed/Squared Logo
2.- Modified a bit the X line (clearer X)
3.- Including a Preview test of how it looks in a panel(22px), in a squared and a circled icons

Anyone that want to use it. feel free to modify it as you like
https://www.deviantart.com/apiecethatsp ... -946178317

If something is wrong please let me know. I made the changes quickly (In beetwen other tasks jajaja)

Saludos

@Amigo Very very nice.


Quick gimp edit of Freja's version-before-last to make the X a bit thicker and see what it looks like at different scales

128x128px
64x64px
32x32px

There's something to like about all the examples so far; glad it's not my job to decide.

8bit

for example, test how it looks on MX Websites and desktop using Freja-version-last.
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 31#p710331

Probably because I brushed up repeatedly, there is no sense of incongruity.

When I tried it, it was easy to replace because the structure was similar to the existing logo,
so I could apply it just by matching the size of the top and bottom.
Note! This is only an experiment.

@Freja why does the right side of the circle look thicker than the left? Or is that the design?

8bit wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:49 am Just for the record;

asqwerth wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 4:29 am8bit's idea of hiding the bottom bits of the X helps by reducing the number of lines in the logo -- Cleaner look.

I started with ceeslans' image; simplified both the X and the lower lines, and added a little space between MX and Linux.

cheeese_20230120-133019.png

8bit

What happens if you raise the X so the legs align with the sides of the pyramids?

Also, elsewhere, when the legs of the X are different lengths and widths, it stops looking like an X.

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:14 pm @Freja why does the right side of the circle look thicker than the left? Or is that the design?

I made it thicker on purpose.
It is a ring that imaged an annular solar eclipse.

If I made it evenly thick, the intonation disappeared and it felt mediocre.

If I would just make a "fine-tuning" on the current logo: I would just equalize the widths (and clearances) of the legs of X, that's all.

To explain a little more,
As I said at the beginning, it is a design that looks up at the sky from the ground.
The elements of "clock" and "annular solar eclipse" are fused to create a cosmic atmosphere.
The circular pattern derived from Mepis represents "sky" against the earth.


The experience of photographing the dawn from a pitch-black night from the top of the mountain is utilized.

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:21 pm If I would just make a "fine-tuning" on the current logo: I would just equalize the widths (and clearances) of the legs of X, that's all.

I already tried it during the design process.
However, if the line made even thickness, the intonation is lost
and the "magical atmosphere" is lost.

Actually the one in post #74 is not bad. Just.. keeping the square shape has advantages and this one increases the space on left side.. Therefore I thought maybe you just move the X leftward.... (The bottom corners of pyramids = corners of the square)

Freja wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:18 pm

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:14 pm @Freja why does the right side of the circle look thicker than the left? Or is that the design?

I made it thicker on purpose.
It is a ring that imaged an annular solar eclipse.

If I made it evenly thick, the intonation disappeared and it felt mediocre.

Ah, is that the reason. Keep into account that if you don't know about any eclipse or some such (which is what the majority of people will not put a link to) it looks lopsided.

Ah, is that the reason. Keep into account that if you don't know about any eclipse or some such (which is what the majority of people will not put a link to) it looks lopsided.

White tranparent .png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

As you said, the thickness was not good enough.
This version is bolder.

Bonus:



For me, this job is quite a thrilling job.
Color code: 4ab8c0

Very pleasing. Simple and yet sophisticated. Crafted with skill and dedication.

@Freja thank you for all the samples and work. I really like the eclipse logo. Its classic and new at the same time.

Wow, Freja, that is terrific!

That does look good.

+1

Whatever the design, I would be strongly in favour of any new logo using the mx-comfort colours.

eg.
blue - #0f56d9
light grey - #cacdd0
blackish grey - #29353b
nearly black - #1d2324
white - #ffffff

Melber wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:13 pm Whatever the design, I would be strongly in favour of a new logo using the mx-comfort colours.

alle.png

blue - #0f56d9
light grey - #cacdd0
blackish grey - #29353b
nearly black - #1d2324
white - #ffffff

That's cool!

Thank you very much to dolphin_oracle and developers.
I'm happy to see that I can contribute to MX moving forward.

Oops, it's time like this.
I go to work as usual. (Now: Japan time)

@Freja Bolder with the eclipse, your design is getting on shape.

Just at Ten past five, I'm wearing specific glasses standing in front of the pyramid, watching the astronomical phenomena, until the lights coming from the pyramid are getting synchronized and perfectly aligned with the kripto kernel tunnel. "Habemus novum modulum".

The phenomena can also be observed in other places of the planet.


@Amigo I took corso license and I have modified your excellent design in order to fit better on square space button of my tool bar. I want to share with you that mod.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ugw00woh ... ar.gz/file



Does anyone over the crowded party can tell me how to change the official MX logo on the app launcher ? want a try your designs.

Thank you

Wow. I really like both @Amigo 's squashed logo and @Freja 's latest bolder eclipse logo.

Freja, could I trouble you to make a test version of your latest logo such that:

1. the left arm of the X is just a little longer (still shorter than the right arm). See the picture I've posted below for the mark at where I'm thinking the arm should be extended to, but maybe make it a little shorter that that.
2. the right arm is 40-50% thicker.

Reasons:
- I like the difference in arm lengths, but think maybe right now it's a bit extreme, though I'm not sure. That's why I need to see a mockup with the arm a little longer, as a comparison.
- the right arm is too thin and may not show up that well at small sizes, and you can see that in @Melber 's trial of the logo in mx-comfort colours.
I do like the idea of left curve being thinner than the right curve to balance the thick shorter left arm and thin longer right arm, so I think it's just a matter of getting the proportions of the left arm length and right arm thickness right.

Amigo, your logo is very nice, and I think the icon/button examples show it off well.

I think the Dev team will have a lot to consider!

Personally I'm quite torn between the 2.

It fixed by asqwerth's order.





White transparent .png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

PS. Toyama city, Japan is now in the heavy snowstorm...
I bought some foods, I will stay home for about 2days.



https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... 598493594/

This is my photo of the "moment when dawn breaks out of darkness",
It was the basis for this design.


My favorite watch is also a hint for this design.

Nice response to a good call by @asqwerth !

Just a tiny thing:

The right arm's edge is 90 degrees, but the left one's is not. (if not consciously).

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:30 am Just a tiny thing:

The right arm's edge is 90 degrees, but the left one's is not. (if not consciously).

Ah, Well pointed out.
I actually had a lot of trouble there.

That is, edge mate to pyramid or edge mate to circle.
Right and left are different.

The right is the result of fitting to a circle, and the left is the result of fitting to a pyramid.

Such discrepancies suggest some equilibrium problem, so

I'll check it out again so that I don't change my impression.

The current version is not yet the final version. The current is "Final Mockup".
I'll get to work on the Precision finishing now.

It looks simple, but the structure is complicated.

(Logically, same angle is best.)

@Melber , @asqwerth

Glad you liked!

@Amiga-MX

Glad you are using it and tweak it to your like. That's what it was created for

Thanks for share your version!

I'm attaching your logo version with a shadow. Maybe can work with your DevPunk BG with Conky (Fluxbox style).

About how to change the app launcher. Maybe the link below can help you
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/applications/tint2-panel/

Saludos a todos

Thanks, @Freja

I think the right arm's thickness is fine now.

I'm still pondering over the length of the left arm in version 2. It might be too long now, making the difference between the 2 arms too minimal. Your original length might actually be ok, or perhaps a length somewhere between version 1 and 2, like so :
(sorry for the messy adjustment via krita)

Anyway, it's getting late here, so I'll think it over some more tomorrow.

Meanwhile, Freja don't forget to contribute that sunrise photograph when the call for wallpapers goes out in due course.


PS. If anyone has other suggestions, ideas or tweaks, please feel free to continue contributing.

Fixed further with an asqwerth order tweak.
I honestly can't think of a better fix.

For identification Code name "Well-Balanced-Eclipse"





Transparent .png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

I solved the angle problem in the example by dividing the angle by half.
By the way, if I completely eliminate the mismatch of angles and seek
"perfect balance" in the design, it will be like this.



Too seeking perfection distorts the results.

Because of the magnificent motif of "earth and celestial sphere".
It is not possible to maintain a perfect balance,
I need a "deformation" like the first one. sorry.

Crude attemot to square off he left leg using Gimp. I am not an expert at this and I am sure someone can do better.

First..

You have to admire the collaborative spirit of this forum and the generosity of it's patrons, I wish the outside world was more like this.. Many thanks to @Freja @Amigo @Melber

It is quite incredible how Freja has given new life and dimension to the classic MX Logo and I think if that is the direction you're going with the Logo this was a useful topic to produce some positive changes..

I still struggle with a couple of things, and since there seems to be nobody but me bringing these points up this will be the last time I mention these if there aren't others who feel similarly..

- I can't unsee the 'windmill' and the circular nature of the new changes have only emphasized that.
- The mountains seem a strange thing to keep when they make the logo difficult to modify (although Amigo managed to take it somewhere new)
- The existing logo really tells me nothing about the product other than a leap of imagination and some research to put the M and X together, I think for a logo in any other paradigm this would be a problem in the marketing focus group..

If nobody else feels this way then I think your path is set, I will respectfully bow out and be proud of MX whatever the label on the can is!

AVLinux wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:11 pm First..

You have to admire the collaborative spirit of this forum and the generosity of it's patrons, I wish the outside world was more like this.. Many thanks to @Freja @Amigo @Melber

- The mountains seem a strange thing to keep when they make the logo difficult to modify (although Amigo managed to take it somewhere new)

Those are pyramids. It has to do with Memphis, Egypt, which got transmogrified into MEPIS by Warren. That they somewhat resemble an "M" is good and useful, for the MEPIS part of MX. And the "X," which I agree makes me think of a windmill, needs to continue to look like an "X" for the antiX part of MX. I hope that, however the logo changes, it remembers the "M" and the "X."

That's exactly right: the mountains should stay,

I'm not worried people won't *understand* b/c for most users the logo will only denote "MX Linux," which is all we need. But connotations (elegant, refined, etc.) are important, and that is more or less what is under consideration here.

arjaybe wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Those are pyramids. It has to do with Memphis, Egypt, which got transmogrified into MEPIS by Warren. That they somewhat resemble an "M" is good and useful, for the MEPIS part of MX. And the "X," which I agree makes me think of a windmill, needs to continue to look like an "X" for the antiX part of MX. I hope that, however the logo changes, it remembers the "M" and the "X."

Hi!

I had commented earlier in the thread that I was aware of the Mepis history and the significance, my question then was how relevant the symbol is in 2023... But it's important for me to be clear of course I am not suggesting a removal of 'M' or 'X' or any change beyond simply re-imagining them in another way. I sense I may be treading on some toes which is not my intent so I will leave you 'MXperts' to it! *tips hat

AVLinux wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:26 pm I had commented earlier in the thread that I was aware of the Mepis history and the significance, my question then was how relevant the symbol is in 2023... But it's important for me to be clear of course I am not suggesting a removal of 'M' or 'X' or any change beyond simply re-imagining them in another way. I sense I may be treading on some toes which is not my intent so I will leave you 'MXperts' to it! *tips hat

It's important and significant because it's the community that assembled itself around MEPIS that conceived, developed, and continues to provide MX. Without MEPIS (symbolized by the pyramids) there would be no MX, at least not the MX we all enjoy today.

arjaybe wrote:
Those are pyramids. It has to do with Memphis, Egypt, which got transmogrified into MEPIS by Warren. That they somewhat resemble an "M" is good and useful, for the MEPIS part of MX. And the "X," which I agree makes me think of a windmill, needs to continue to look like an "X" for the antiX part of MX. I hope that, however the logo changes, it remembers the "M" and the "X."

I agree with the concept too. In this point of view, letter "M" and "X" should be easily understood by everyone from the logo. What about to change the logo #112 by Freja like the one below?

52646304405_6299a8a146_w-fix.jpg

Freja wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:59 am Fixed further with an asqwerth order tweak.
I honestly can't think of a better fix.

For identification Code name "Well-Balanced-Eclipse"





Transparent .png
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

I solved the angle problem in the example by dividing the angle by half.
By the way, if I completely eliminate the mismatch of angles and seek
"perfect balance" in the design, it will be like this.



Too seeking perfection distorts the results.

Because of the magnificent motif of "earth and celestial sphere".
It is not possible to maintain a perfect balance,
I need a "deformation" like the first one. sorry.

I really like "Well-Balanced-Eclipse" . It is so jaunty and happy.

When considering a design, a problem that often arises is that
multiple people have different opinions,
and it is difficult to know which direction to go.

Of course, it is also important to polish the design according to the order,
If I take all the opinions, the design will break.
In this case, right direction is required.

for this case.
We should follow MX Chief Developer/Spokesman dolphin_oracle,
he expressed a favor to Well-Balanced-Eclipse.
As a designer, I agree with his favor.

I agree with your decision, well done!

Hi there to anyone who participate in this thread.

@Amigo I'm having fun with the boomerang design method, I mean Boomerang because I now trow it to you back. Be free to edit, remove any aesthetic or unaesthetic element. Ungroup is the key to get it single - some elements are duplicated in order to get more emphasis.

Thanks for your answering about tint2, I know how to change icons on the bar, but I don't know how to change the official logo on the left launcher ( ). Well using tint2 I've created a button with a modified design from your last one with shadow.

The resulting file is at:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ugw00woh ... ar.gz/file


Crucial information

LEVEL 0

0. My MX FB runs my choosen dandelion splash screen animation. It's is light blue color with MX Linux font following by the current logo.
The design is so clean-clear-solid-and robust, that in my opinion we shouldn't take it off, especially on booting time. LEVEL 0
compared to our (your-mine) modifications (especially mines ) that seems too casual .......

LEVEL 1

1. I'm gonna speak right now specifically about our modifications for the launcher square icon, mine design becomes to funny and informal when scales up
I believe your original models has better support on big scale i.e backgrounds . However both modifications work well for the square icon.

I haven't tried yet how well our friend @Freja's design works on this LEVEL 1 Menu- Bar- dock, ( Please, @Freja can
you show us and
example of you bar ? )

See picture for reference:


Watching this example in the LEVEL 1 with our custom designs, we can conclude that this level could have more flexibility by the user to choose, among several mods, colors matching several themes, some others based of some palettes, perhaps with some backgrounds palettes although.

Level 2

This is free ride level but still requires some attention, this level includes the official backgrounds that still have to be well aligned to the Level 0, but transitioning with the help of level 1- Menu icon, meaning that from 0 to 2 which is desktop from factory there shouldn't be any breakage. In this example the solid level 0 that we have with the solid look as shown on dandelion splashscreen should have continuity. That's what I believe our icons can help to make the transition. Only if we take care about continuity, I'm so afraid not to have shape continuity, for example freja rounded style and our squared ones forked the style continuity. One of those styles have to be chosen by default at delivery from factory. That's crucial. Because continuity state must be also be provided to the level 0, so it depends of the chosen default design shape that will required further level 0 adaptations, not in our case with squared shapes.


Level 2.1 is when the user can choose to change some bg and launcher icons to start changing everything. In this state our new icons + bg combos can help to make first choices. Finally we get out of scene since the user wish to change everything from our end state product delivery. Holidays for us.

Level 3 is opened. Sky is the limit.


-------------------------
So lets get less theory, I'm gonna show you my designs that are not intended to satisfy at any time any change of the official logo. Still oficial logo is the best but it needs some color treatments to be multi range.





@asqwerth Honoring your presence and excellence of you personality in this forum, I have created some bg designs, one of them is kind of a desktop demo for my DevPunk V5 theme. The case is that I've used your nickname-call-sign to recreate, a metaphoric short history collage, showing my logo design and recreating some extract of one answer by @arjaybe, but put it in your month words of the fictitious character, of course is a fiction. I've also have use this metaphor to create a critic to my self by forgetting to match the color of the Imago composition. Just I hope you liked, I'm little bit worried if you take it for something personal against you when is not. take it as this is for Honoring your presence and excellence of you personality in this forum. I could also have used other starring from this topic , but the content is limited in space and time.

Here we go:

Unacceptable breakage of the continuity at Level 3 triad for DevPunk V5: Fashioned but unacceptable.









Thanks for watching

My preference is to Freja's design. Amiga-MX's, in my eyes, looks like a gamer logo.

I prefer @Freja's design, too.

@Amiga-MX



**Using the voice of the character in your pictorial story**

Don't forget to submit your artwork when wallpaper submissions are open (eg the second picture in your post - though I suggest the logo and text be cleaned up) .

Mr. Benny says: "Let's play it straight"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3cc0HlO7so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2krY8Y ... g0&index=1

What do y'all think?
8bit

@Freja

Hmm. Your "balanced" logo has a slightly shorter left arm than my suggested change. See below:

yours: mine:

What are everyone's thoughts about the left arm length?
- makes no difference
- makes a difference, and you prefer the shorter length
- makes a difference and you prefer it with the longer length?


I also agree with @richb 's suggestion here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 71#p710571 to square/level off the edge of the left arm so that it's parallel to the edge of the curve directly facing the arm, ie at the point that the arm will meet the curve if the arm was extended to touch the curve.

makes a difference - prefer it with the longer length

I will try to make the same one
in master resolution.
from now.

Please wait a moment.

I also prefer the longer left arm.

For identification Code name "Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2"





It's same.


Transparency (White)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

(I think I made it through this reckless challenge...maybe...)
Lamb waiting for God's judgment

Freja wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:15 am For identification Code name "Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2"

...

... Very nice, I like this one, and also the grey one.

It seems there's no option for equal length and width.

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:43 am It seems there's no option for equal length and width.

Yes, I don't want width and length to be equal.

By making them equal,
the magical atmosphere disappears.

The imbalance that Eclipse has.
It's an X arm’s imbalance to keep the
whole in proper balance.

As a result of the exquisite fusion of unbalanced elements,
It creates a total equilibrium balance
(the impression of the logo).

(… This world is made up of imbalances.
But the world as a whole should strike an
elegant balance. That's my worldview.)

Personally, I think Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2 is the final form.

I agree with Freja. The angle on the end of the left arm still bothers me.

Actually that angle is just to make it parallel cut according to the right (smaller) pyramid.

richb wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:59 pm I agree with Freja. The angle on the end of the left arm still bothers me.

The angle of the left arm conforms to the Mepis Mountain.
because it is a priority M+X than Eclipse.

The a little discrepancy in the angle with the circle of the celestial sphere
may (sadly) be only one an expression that "my view of the world" is not perfect.

There is a sadness that leads to the MX21 wallpaper "Honesty".
That was also a work that tried to solve the imperfection of the world's "light and darkness".

I think I understand what you are saying. I see it as an anomaly. If it must be it must be.

Sorry, many artists are often crazy…

asqwerth wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:47 am What are everyone's thoughts about the left arm length?

I prefer the shorter length. It is more artistic to me and lessens the dominance of the X, which was especially evident in the original logo.

richb wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:59 pm I agree with Freja. The angle on the end of the left arm still bothers me.

I have the same feeling haha.


Ah mountain angle.

Right arm is not angled like the mountain? or is it?

It looks like not (90 degrees).

Personally, I think Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2 is the final form.

That's also my opinion.

Various people will always prefer small changes of length, angle or whatever. But I think Freja has explained his artistic choices well and suggest that we let his version rest for now. When the actual moment of change--not for quite a while!--is on the table the Devs will be in a good position to move forward.

Personally, I think Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2 is the final form.

Jerry
That's also my opinion.

I agree with well balanced. It i gives the impression of movement on a static image and makes the eclipse easy to see rather than just concentric circles.

Disclaimer: I feel like I'm crossing a line by joining this conversation since I'm neither an artist nor a long time user of MX in general nor an active member of the forum. I am totally fine if my message is ignored.

I can see how the default "everything" about MX might turn someone away from using it (web page. logo. default desktop theme and layout. wallpapers). Not because of the bad looks per-se. Just: why bother ricing MX linux, if you can get crispier, more mac-os-que, windows-esque experience by running Mint, Zorin, K-Ubuntu ... A new user that I was 3 years ago thought that. Now, I appreciate the industrial and utilitarian looks of MX in general. The looks support the identity of the distro.

I believe that changing the logo has to follow a purpose. (Not the other way around: Finding a purpose for changing a logo) - and I say that after enjoying all the suggestions in this forum.
Is the goal to increase the user count of the distro? Is it to attract more hardware companies to factory-install MX? Is it to make more attractive for companies and large organisations (schools, hospitals ...)?

Therefore changing the logo is a part of a broader change of distro's direction and is supported by overhauled web-site, desktop themes and so on.

I can actually see MX being presented with two logos in the future. First one - official, based on existing pyramids and X (more in favour of long time users). The other one completely tailored to represent a "official getaway respin" of MX tailored for new-to-linux users. In that case there is a place for both, @Freja's and @Amigo's suggestions.

I received a lot of hot encouragement based on my love for MX. thank you. (I think I've accepted it.)

I feel this thread is finally nearing a conclusion/further development.

From now, (probably) I think asqwerth's direction will conclude the discussion.

For me, the logo design this time was (simple) to "improve the beloved OS".
this is purpose of this time.

It takes courage to make changes to a product that is currently working well.
However, if you are confident that you can do better, then I think you should do it.

asqwerth wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:47 am @Freja

Hmm. Your "balanced" logo has a slightly shorter left arm than my suggested change. See below:

yours:
52646636034_93ac432bcd_w-v3.jpg

mine:
52646304405_6299a8a146_w-v2-asqmod.jpg

What are everyone's thoughts about the left arm length?
- makes no difference
- makes a difference, and you prefer the shorter length
- makes a difference and you prefer it with the longer length?


I also agree with @richb 's suggestion here: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 71#p710571 to square/level off the edge of the left arm so that it's parallel to the edge of the curve directly facing the arm, ie at the point that the arm will meet the curve if the arm was extended to touch the curve.

I think longer left arm is better in balance. Another idea: taper the bottom ends of the "X" so it looks like lights shining in the sky. If you were to go with the tapered beams this version may also be to your liking:

That looks like we are fatty smokers.

All of these designs are really great as full size images, but we should also consider what they will look like when they are scaled down to the size of the MX launch icon (lower left-hand corner of the XFCE screen). That's where most of our users will see the logo most frequently. At that size, will the design be recognizable? Will the nuances be discernible? In this scenario, I think that a less busy design like "Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2" will scale down the best.

It looks like the case is now being tested
with new proprietary data.

(For details, please contact the development team.)

For example, I tested in Panel width 49Pixel, Screen size 1920x1200.




Full size
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

It looks not bad, i'm getting excited!
More fine adjustments will probably be made by the development team in the future.

default panel (35 pixels) 1080p screen

better with panel at 36 pixels.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:31 am better with panel at 36 pixels.

Yes, 36Pixel looks more better.
(It's 36Pixel)



Full size
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

j2mcgreg wrote:
All of these designs are really great as full size images, but we should also consider what they will look like when they are scaled down to the size of the MX launch icon (lower left-hand corner of the XFCE screen).

This is just what I felt. The left side of the circle is too thin to confirm enough. It should be much thicker, so right side of the circle might be automatically much to be much thicker.

This is just only my personal impression so far. Maybe it is a trivial matter.

Best regards,
Green

Looks OK at the panel sizes as is. Also my concern about the angled end of the left X goes away at that size as it is not evident.

One more tiny thing: Due to the space at the bottom, it'll look a bit above, according to other icons on horizontal panels.

Just a heads up to @dolphin_oracle and all on this thread, I took it offline earlier today and asked Freja to come up with versions that had less borders around the logo and also specifically coloured in white with black background (for now). That was because I tested it on the panel and the thin lines in the original balanced v2 looked rather faint when the panel (and thus Start button) was smaller.

@Freja , does your latest version have any borders at all or does it only consist of the logo without a surrounding background? Looks good but perhaps it will be better for @dolphin_oracle to let us know how much border (if at all) is required for practical reasons.
Note however this is MX19 with panel size 60 on my laptop because everything is so tiny on this screen if I don't size everything up.


I don't think I'll have much time to work on this until after Monday though, so you will find me silent the next few days.

Added: maybe dolphin can check with Freja for thin/no -border versions.

Master resolution.png for reduction(To reduce, Gimp is Recommended)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/


36px Test Result (Using above file and Gimp)


60px icon data
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

36px icon data
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

It seems that 36px looks bigger than 35px in XFCE specifications.

The noisy line on the left is caused by an
improper resizing method and improper data to be shrunk.

As you can see, using Gimp for the reduce
with the latest data above gave beautiful results.

PS. The data going to be square picture.

It would also be good if @Freja could make the image square rather than rectangular.
Maybe 256x256, 128x128 and 64x64 pixel versions? Not sure what sizes the various MX panels, apps and websites use.

Like the 60pixel asqwerth, I also use the 66pixel panel size every day.
Probably, there are many users who are using the panel size larger than the default.

If so, you should consider setting the panel size to about 60 pixels as the default.
(default size is too small to me
I thought there might be some reason, so I couldn't say it.)

Anyway, this logo is just fun (fun is important.)
I want to deliver this hobby.

60px Panel


https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... datetaken/

Freja wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:51 am...Probably, there are many users who are using the panel size larger than the default...

Absolutely.

Freja wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:51 am... default size is too small to me...

To me, too :)

Freja wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:51 am... I thought there might be some reason ...

Definitely.

Freja wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:51 am... you should consider setting the panel size to about 60 pixels as the default...

That would be ok for the clock be readable etc. But: Many users also use MX Tweak and change to horizontal as the very first thing (or we tell them how to if they're new to MX or Linux).. In that case 60 would be a weird look suddenly (and, you know, devs need to find the optimum point as there are many monitor types, laptop and desktop/external etc..).. then all these users should re-adjust the panel (decrease 60 ...)..

Imho 40 (max. 48) looks good in both cases: A happy medium :)

the most I would change the panel too is 36. 60 is far too large on non-HDPI screens. even my 2.5K monitor, 60 is too large, I run it at 50.
the icon I downloaded was already square, 150 x 150.

the current menu icon is 80x74

I finally have an easy-to-use .svg file that I want to share with you all.
The color is white, but it is editable.
(It took long time to make this.)

Vector data that can be expanded lossless infinitely
depending on the resolution value specified (26KB).

(asq_OK-path)Well-balanced-Eclipse-V2
https://firestorage.com/download/3af100 ... 67f32c99c6

Does mx have a slogan
to go with the logo ?

Some standards stand (?)
A slogan needing translation maybe is why slogans take a back seat. (?)
Keeps on ticking
Share the love
Refreshing


Days are better with MX

MX Comfort

medium footprint, maximum joy. mx me.
add Public Service Announcement:
Use electronic devices responsibly.

No, we do not.

We recognize that the new logo (Well-Balanced-Eclipse-V2) does not lend itself to
extreme shrinkage to about 40px of the current panel.
Less than 56px may be difficult.

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 71#p711571

This image is part of a custom desktop created by @ceeslans. (Thanks ceeslans!),
We can represent a menu button with three horizontal lines.
(This seems like a great idea to me.)
This allows for smaller panels.

It seems more reasonable than forcing the logo to be
embedded in a panel that is too small.

Could be worth looking at.

That icon with 3 horizontal lines is called a "hamburger" I believe. Can I ask about its origin/status? I intend to use such an icon eventually on the tint2 Manager.

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:01 am Could be worth looking at.

That icon with 3 horizontal lines is called a "hamburger" I believe. Can I ask about its origin/status? I intend to use such an icon eventually on the tint2 Manager.

I was surprised by Xerox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_button

>The icon was originally designed by Norm Cox as part
>of the user interface for the Xerox Star personal computer.

>...With so few pixels to work with, it had to be very distinct,
>yet simple. I think we only had 16×16 pixels to render the image.

Hamburger used boot-animation's logo text.

40px test image


60px test image (Transparent png)


40px 60px 40px Transparent 60px Transparent Or, simply Hamburger only is OK.

If we were to change the menu button icon, I still think I would prefer eclipse.

40px 60px Background color code: #333333

I like the current logo more than any of these posted here ...

vm_x wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:47 pm I like the current logo more than any of these posted here ...

Thanks for the input, we'll take it into consideration.

+1 :) @vm_x

Haha, there will never be 100% consensus on something like this..

I was in favour of something completely different but the development process of this logo and the stuff in the animated boot logo thread completely won me over to the @Freja design. Everyone has their opinions and preferences of course and constructive discourse is always a must, but time and context can often be persuasive on their own. Not saying this to convince anyone, just pointing out how surprised I was to be won over..

I'm with you 100% @vm_x!

+1 @AVLinux

Thanks @AVLinux, @Stuart_M , @vm_x, @dings.
I 'm going to show you a part of the my PM I sent to asqwerth the other day.

Whether the Well-Balanced-Eclipse-V2 is adopted or not is not important to me personally.

Ultimately, I think that if adoption is good for MX users around the world, they should use it, and if it makes things worse than they are now, they should reject it.

+1 @vm_x

As a trend in my work production at life so far, my designs are popular with experts, but they are not popular with general users. It's a definite trend.

It's true that I had a hard time, but if it's rejected by general users, it might be better not to adopt it.

Who has the more superiority the customer or the development team?

This is MX because of our customers.

Myself, Freja's vote is below.
+1 @vm_x

Now we know the lines mean menu. [post January 20th]
Mix-in the menu magnifying glass(?)

Freja
You be the M in X.
Thank You for the unfolding, the movement.
Hold it with pride, Your design is sterling.

@Freja

For me, it isn't JUST about the logo itself, but how well it represents what it is supposed to, and how well it goes with the current all-around design.
I'm not questioning your literal design skills, I just don't see the direction of this particular logo going well with the rest of MX.

To me, MX is utilitarian, slightly rough around the edges, kind of square-ish in nature, boxy, stable, strong, steel-like, the most XFCE-ish distro around, and I think the current logo perfectly represents that.
The new logo feels soft, too round-ish, with skinny weak lines, completely out of MX character to me personally.

So while I would love to see MX advance in design, I don't think the current logo is the bottleneck, and I don't think we need a new logo just for the sake of having a new logo.

I don't think you should label all of us "non-experts" for not liking some particular design of yours, but rather seek direction from the community.

@vm_x
Your opinion is very understandable and convincing to me.

However, it is true that I had a different image of MX.

For example, the DaVinci Resolve suite, the creative tool that rivals the Adobe that makes the Mac, runs on MX. (This is also used in Hollywood.)

In recent years, MX can also be used for deep learning, motion capture, etc., and is very advanced.

In other words, I tried to have a futuristic essence focused on the advanced nature of today's MX, so I made a thin and soft design.

Depending on how you interpret the OS called MX, the logo will also change.

By the way, I'm not much of a logo design expert. I apologize to you.

The current logo has a familiarity to it, while the new logo may be modern, but it may lack the familiarity.

It is natural to reject a familiar logo when it is about to change. But MX has come a long way since its inception. Is it reasonable to update the logo?

This is what I was worried about from the beginning.
We waiting for the development team's opinion.


(For me, the logo, both old and new, is a common property of mankind, so it has already left my hands.)

I seem to have opened a Pandora's box,
and now I'm in bed.

However, it is true that I had a different image of MX.

This here is the key issue, I think.

DaVinci Resolve suite, deep learning, motion capture ... none of this is exclusive to MX, it runs just as fine on any other Linux distribution, possibly even better.

MX is a very specific flavor of Linux, somewhat tailored AGAINST jumping on a modern bandwagon just for the sake of modernity. That's why XFCE, arguably the oldest-looking DE availiable, is the flagship. That's why systemd is disabled by default. That's why drivers for old machines are included by default. Even fluxbox gets more attention than KDE, and so on ...

You can't just slap a skinny modern looking logo on top and call it a day, it doesn't fit well with the rest.

Your logo would probably be a perfect fit for the latest Fedora, but on MX it just looks out of place to me.

Sorry, I was under impression that this was a productive discussion, I'll show myself out.

@vm_x
I believe you are correct.
However, my claim is also correct in a way.

In addition, I've received comprehensive feedback, so we will utilize it.

Therefore, I will try to make a third logo (test) from now on.

It might take a little while, as I'll be creating this in between my regular jobs.
I don't know if I can. But I'll try.

It's not intended to update.
I'm just trying to resolve people's complaints and
move forward as much as possible.

Most people give up just short of breakthrough.
But if we had advanced a little further,
we might have been able to make a breakthrough.

As "comprehensive feedback" (Post #196) as well as staying on topic "...whether things look ok" (Post #194), I give the following.

Personally I think user vm_x was spot-on with his Post #193 above:

vm_x wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:37 am ...
MX is a very specific flavor of Linux, somewhat tailored AGAINST jumping on a modern bandwagon just for the sake of modernity. That's why XFCE, arguably the oldest-looking DE available, is the flagship. That's why systemd is disabled by default. That's why drivers for old machines are included by default.
...

To me, the original MX logo comes across as robust. The new style logo looks dainty (in my opinion).

The only logo in this thread that I though was at least somewhat okay was at the bottom of Freja's Post #177 https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 03#p712503 which displayed a simple "MX" with three horizontal lines below it. That simple "MX" in bold font looks better than the "new" and "modern" logo that is being presented here. Removing one or two horizontal lines might be better looking than with three horizontal lines, but I always return to thinking "there is no reason to change what is already good, accepted, and recognized with the MX Linux distribution."

Regarding "more modern and professional" as stated in Post #1, user figueroa said it well in his Post #7 https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 89#p556389.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/dainty gives a pretty good description for the definition of "dainty" which is, in part:

of delicate beauty; exquisite
pleasing to the taste and, often, temptingly served or delicate
overly particular; finicky

I see MX Linux as robust and stable.

Codename "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"


The traditional logo pyramid-form is used as it is.

It's a "heavy stamp" that can withstand extreme shrinkage, and we've added dolphin_oracle's favorite "Eclipse" element.

A design that eliminates cuteness and combines traditional stability and magical-atmosphere.

note: Animation can be create.

svg Data Dwnload:
https://firestorage.jp/download/7cfde95 ... f3d9c30c89

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:47 am

richb wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:54 am

Thank you so much!

but, "The endorse from MX users" is likewise important.
(I'm in nervous.)

Freja wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:35 am...used as it is...

But.. the arms changed place.

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:59 am

Freja wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:35 am...used as it is...

But.. the arms changed place.

It is the result of trying to secure an attractive overall balance.

Made it low center of gravity for enhanced stability.

Sorry... tomorrow morning is normal job,
I'll go to laundry Folding work...
(It's not design work, so it's for living.)

Freya's last touch really made a difference!

Impressive!

danielson wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:16 am Freya's last touch really made a difference!

Impressive!

Thanks…thank you so much…

“Customers are Gods”
It's an old Japanese proverb.

We've had logos (MEPIS) that use the pyramids and the sun together before. Freja's latest one just adds the "X" and modifies the circle a bit. Seems evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

Freja wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:35 am Codename "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"


The traditional logo pyramid-form is used as it is.

It's a "heavy stamp" that can withstand extreme shrinkage, and we've added dolphin_oracle's favorite "Eclipse" element.

A design that eliminates cuteness and combines traditional stability and magical-atmosphere.

note: Animation can be create.

svg Data Dwnload:
https://proxy2.firestorage.jp/download1 ... f3d9c30c89

This is the one for me! I run panels at 36 and 28 and this design is clean and stands up there nicely!

Freja wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:35 am Codename "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"


The traditional logo pyramid-form is used as it is.

It's a "heavy stamp" that can withstand extreme shrinkage, and we've added dolphin_oracle's favorite "Eclipse" element.

A design that eliminates cuteness and combines traditional stability and magical-atmosphere.

note: Animation can be create.

svg Data Dwnload:
https://proxy2.firestorage.jp/download1 ... f3d9c30c89

Looks like I didn't get around to LOOKING at things, but this one deserves a reply....

i like that a lot!

But never forget that horses were better than cars, IBM typewriters better than computers, and all that jazz.

So I got up at morning.
Wow, it was going to be amazing. . .

@CharlesV
I'll make an animation when I get home.

Logo codename "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"
2023 MX LINUX Forum

____________

As you can see, at the new logo creation received a
many many opinions from MX users.

Denial worked rather as good medicine.
If one of the opinion is missing,
this final form would not have been completed.

This is not made by myself,
it is the embodiment of forum's will.
I only compiled.

Thank you for all the comments you have given me.

Freja wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:58 pm

Logo codename "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"
2023 MX LINUX Forum
...

Logos have never been my theme and have never touched my professional photographic everyday life (they were always ready when I had industrial assignments ;-}), but based on the old Mepis logo, which I liked visually, this one jumps out at me in a pleasantly positive way.

More evolution than revolution, but that's okay in my eyes.

Of course, this is only the irrelevant, absolutely personal opinion of an end user; whatever you decide at some point will be fine with me.

it struggles with itself at its center
there is disagreement where thick and where thin.

Freja wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 10:58 pm

Logo codename "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"
2023 MX LINUX Forum

____________

As you can see, at the new logo creation received a
many many opinions from MX users.

Denial worked rather as good medicine.
If one of the opinion is missing,
this final form would not have been completed.

This is not made by myself,
it is the embodiment of forum's will.
I only compiled.

Thank you for all the comments you have given me.

This one seems to be round and square at once. It combines contradictions and I that's why it is very universal.

On my main machine I'm using MX-Fluxbox now with the default only a little bit customized MX-comfort fluxbox- and tint2- panel themes and there's nothing circular there. But I also have a laptop and netbook, and there is another theme, where circular logo will look much better to me.

I have always moved from the default MX-logo to mx-icons-start-LogoLight.png from the mx-icons-start package that is just plain white MX sign without any background, borders or other elements. And the background or the border-shape is independent of the logo itself and it is up to the button configuration.

Example:


Traditional black background (60px) Transparency (60px) New boot animation is under construction.

White only .svg data (High Resolution)
White only .png data (Transparent, High Resolution)
Both "Traditional Heavy Eclipse"

Download:
https://firestorage.com/download/9b8a38 ... 3f14991707

@Freja could you make the black-eclipse icon 64x64. Xfce has trouble scaling the 60x60 one correctly.

...

I made a high resolution .png and vector data for the text part of the logo
used in the boot animation. This may be needed someday.(Font: Girloy font free Extrabold)

great thank you!

These were posted on our X account by an Italian graphic artist. I thought it was pretty neat.

Where you find them neat, I am a hard no on them.

Jerry3904 wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:29 am These were posted on our X account by an Italian graphic artist. I thought it was pretty neat.

That looks like Egyptian hieroglyphics for "fish that ate a twisted pair cable."

I agree with Eadwine, although I could see them as a brand for cows or as a hood emblem for a sports car (like RR's Flying Lady).

There is still a desire for a modern logo.

But traditionally concept and heavyweights (robustness)
are important to the original MX. (T.H.E.)

By the way, I am trying it out with my unofficial respin,
I feel there is a need for
an “official respin that targets only modern PCs”.
Temporary name: Advanced MX might require a more modern logo.

I don't see a desire for a modern logo? It's fine the way it is now.

People want to make everything modern,
but modernity cuts out the pastoral.
I agree with Eadwine.

Jeesh, I wasn't proposing it as a substitute for what we have...just a nice graphic design. I'd put it on a T-shirt or coffee cup, for instance.

I want to decorate my car like this someday...
At coffee cup also good.

Jerry3904 wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:29 am These were posted on our X account by an Italian graphic artist. I thought it was pretty neat.

I think they are kind of neat too Jerry

black cat
white cat

Well, the logo just got updated with the MX 23 release. I'd say keep it like that and think about "modernizing" it again when MX 27 is on its way

Modern? What's 'modern'? I'm old enough to have seen lots of old things become modern again, once someone younger 'discovers' them. ;-)

Anyway, I like this version so I modified it with a transparent background. Even a quick glance and I see "MX" clearly.

I like the current MX logo as it is. I don't like the current proposal at all. Although that's still a very friendly way of putting it.

i don't understand it. why should a logo be modern? what does the term "modern" even mean in this respect? a logo should be memorable! it certainly doesn't have that if it becomes "more modern" every few years.
Everyone recognizes, worldwide, a Mercedes, Audi or VW (just as an example) by its typical logo, and these are logos that are well over 90 and over 100 years old.

I had to look up the Mepis logos very nice selection of cool artwork and the new MX Linux graphics on booting up is sweet as,
the logo(s) used now are better than modern, they are classy and timeless as stated previously works for cars etc.
It's not the logo that makes a company (Distro) modern and appealing it's seeing them accepting new improved ways of doing.

It is not too long since the logo was updated. I would like to keep the current one. They kinda grow on me.
I think they grow on other people too. Just my opinion.

People, take a deep breath! Nobody--nobody--is proposing that the current new logo be changed.

What is Modern? I think it is "advanced and optimized".
If MX was an elementary-like OS, we might adopt the Italian logo.
It wins in terms of simplicity.

However, the MX community wanted a "logo that represented MX's history and story."
Our current logo clearly expresses our starting point.

If Innovation forgets starting point, will it decline.

This is just a discussion about a drawing that an mx facebook member posted in the FB group.

It has nothing to do with whether it will be adopted by MX Team or not (it won't).

No need for anyone to get worked up over this. Just treat this as a discussion about a music group or sports team or even linux distro - what you like or don't like about the thing in question.