M12 11.9.92

[Jerry3904]

I have been using Mepis since the "Simply Mepis" book was published (2003 I think) and have been totally satisfied. I prefer KDE and the Debian base so Mepis is a good fit. It appears, however, that development of M12 is not really progressing. I don't see any news updates or postings to the contrary. The last post I saw with any comment in this regard stated that Warren was busy with projects that actually generate revenue for his company, and that is certainly understandable. Still, Debian 7 was released last May and it is beginning to look like Debain 8 could be released before M12 is released. This raises some questions in my mind:
1. Is a final stable release of M12 expected any time in the foreseeable future?
2. Is there any way to have a stable M11 with Wheezy repositories?
3. Would it be possible for someone to post regular progress updates in the forum or on mepis.org?
4. Comment, not a question: I am beginning to look for alternatives to Mepis, staying with Debian and KDE. I am taking a close look at SolydK as a possible replacement for Mepis.

My take:
1. The M12 b2 is very stable, but not final. I posted earlier a post containing Warren's answers to this very question that you might want to look up.
2. No clue...
3. I have posted all progress updates that I have received from Warren.
4. Hope you find something you like!

[rschaffter]

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4. Comment, not a question: I am beginning to look for alternatives to Mepis, staying with Debian and KDE. I am taking a close look at SolydK as a possible replacement for Mepis.

I looked at KWheezy, which is pretty good, but decided to stick with Mepis because it uses the actual Debian repositories and it used less memory. I'm not familiar with SolydK. There's also ZEVENOS Neptune, but it's a bit too cutting edge for my Kids' machines...

[uncle mark]

I looked at KWheezy, which is pretty good, but decided to stick with Mepis because it uses the actual Debian repositories...

SolydK uses the Debian repositories as well.

[malspa]

4. Comment, not a question: I am beginning to look for alternatives to Mepis, staying with Debian and KDE. I am taking a close look at SolydK as a possible replacement for Mepis.

I too am disappointed at the lack of any further MEPIS development, but it is what it is. Moving to another distro at some future point is not that big a deal for me, but moving away from the Community and all that it entails will be a tough pill to swallow.

I simply went with Debian. CrunchBang (Wheezy-based) for when I want a quicker installation. By the way, Wheezy KDE might not be as quick and easy to install as Mepis, and not as nice out-of-the-box, but it isn't that difficult to get everything set up like you want it, and then it's about as nice as Mepis ever was, in my opinion. One cool thing about Mepis, kinda makes Debian easier. Mostly the same thing, in the end. I still like dropping in here and posting sometimes, though. Can't see any real reason for moving away from this community after all this time. Looking forward to MepisantiX, and I do hope that we'll see "Mepis 13" sometime before the year 2015.

[DBeckett]

I too am disappointed at the lack of any further MEPIS development, but it is what it is. Moving to another distro at some future point is not that big a deal for me, but moving away from the Community and all that it entails will be a tough pill to swallow.

Although I have Mepis on all my machines, I moved away from it as my daily driver midway through M11 due to unresolvable issues, and moved to Debian. Having said that, most all of the things I've learned here apply equally to pure Debian, as do packages from the Mepis CRs. I have SolydK HE on a new build, and the same can be said for it too, my point being that this community is still very relevant for me.

[muskt]

I still belong to the "I don't know squat about Linux" crowd; however, I feel that I am learning (although darned slowly).

I read a large percentage of the posts here in order to glean some tidbits of knowledge without asking hundreds of questions.

As for the development cycle, I don't really care. I still play with M11 and have 2 installs of M12B3 64 on my desktop box.

I was intrigued by the mention of SolydXK BE. Since I have a few extra partitions available, I downloaded the 64 bit version and burned it to disk. The burn, run, and install went rather smoothly, and the conversion to GRUB (legacy) wasn't bad either. Getting it to run from boot was a bit rocky, but I was successful.

"Where the heck is he going with this?"

Well, documentation (a huge pet peeve with me) for SolydXK seems to be virtually nonexistent.
OK, so it is very similar to Mepis, right? Not 'zactly. Lots of little differences:
1. No ROOT
2. sgfxi doesn't work anything like for Mepis--or what the smxi.org site tells you to do. You must figure it out for your self.
3. Getting out of X took a good hour--init 1 for SolydXK & init 3 for Mepis.
4. The sgfxi script simply will not work.
5. Simply running "sgfxi" from a terminal (after figuring out how to get out of X) is all that is required. No documentation on that one, either (at least not in American English).
6. It defaults to some resolution that only a 16 year old can see, and refuses to let you save the config file (after modding the resolution) without being "root" (God only knows how to do that).
7. The basic install boots slower (subjective eval) than my mature Mepis 11 or 12B3.
8. The forum is touted to be very good; however, since I haven't joined, I cannot comment on it.

End result=====A fun experiment; however, I'm sticking with Mepis for my Linux distro.

Jerry in Anchorage

[golinuxgo]

Having said that, most all of the things I've learned here apply equally to pure Debian, as do packages from the Mepis CRs.

I am not a Mepis (or KDE) user but the Mepis CRs are a great resource. I have installed a few packages to get apps running on Debian that aren't available elsewhere. So I do want to be part of this community and support the work that Mepis contributes.

[Danum]

I still belong to the "I don't know squat about Linux" crowd; however, I feel that I am learning (although darned slowly).

I read a large percentage of the posts here in order to glean some tidbits of knowledge without asking hundreds of questions.

As for the development cycle, I don't really care. I still play with M11 and have 2 installs of M12B3 64 on my desktop box.

I was intrigued by the mention of SolydXK BE. Since I have a few extra partitions available, I downloaded the 64 bit version and burned it to disk. The burn, run, and install went rather smoothly, and the conversion to GRUB (legacy) wasn't bad either. Getting it to run from boot was a bit rocky, but I was successful.

"Where the heck is he going with this?"

Well, documentation (a huge pet peeve with me) for SolydXK seems to be virtually nonexistent.


Jerry in Anchorage

First I do not use SolydXK, but if you had taken the trouble to look you would have found in Plain English.
http://solydxk.com/get-support/tutorials/#sysinstall
you would have also found how to "Install drivers on SolydXK with DDM"
They do say a picture is better than a thousand words, and in this case it is very true,
As for no root, the majority of distro's do not provide a root login to the file system, most consider it a message for a disaster
use the run command Alt +F2 and enter,

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kdesu dbus-launch dolphin

[muskt]

Well, I guess it is time for me to crawl back under my rock.
I do appreciate the assistance I receive here.
I did finally utilize the DDM to get the Nvidia driver installed. I saw the DDM during the install, but thought it pertained to things like printers, modems, or network cards.
I thought the sgfxi script was universal. Big mistake on my part.
Sometimes, not knowing the correct terminology can be a serious roadblock when searching for assistance or knowledge.

Sometimes, it is difficult to transfer emotions on forums such as these.
I did "take the trouble to look", I just didn't understand, or couldn't find what I thought I needed.
I reported how things had gone for me during the install--not the smoothest, but eventually successful.

Back under a frozen rock in Anchorage
Jerry

[lucky9]

See here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155278/h ... ad-of-sudo

What I do to create the root on ubuntu: first I do this

sudo -i

then

passwd

as @Zignd mentioned the classical messages will appear:

Type new UNIX password: [Type the root password you want]
Retype new UNIX password: [Retype the root password you chosen before]
passwd: password updated successfully

then I can use the su as a normal root acount...

A more easily understood way is here: http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-and-d ... sword.html

Ubuntu is one of the few Linux distributions out there that will not enable the root account.If you want to do something with root permission on the console you have to type sudo before the command.


sudo" means superuser do. "sudo" will prompt for "Password:". Please specify user password

As you have noticed during the Ubuntu installation there was no question about the root password, as you might have been used to see during other Linux distribution installation process.Because of this your root account is inactive.

If you want to enable root account (which is not recommended) enter the following command.

$sudo passwd root

This will prompt for a new root password and once you confirm it, you can start using the root account to login.

If you want to disable root account in ubuntu you need to lock the root account by using the following command

$sudo passwd -l root

If you want to work on a root console you'd better use the following command

$sudo -i

Just FYI it's a real good idea to use kdesu (or gtksu if using Gnome) for all GUI programs to get root privileges. You can use su for non-GUI programs and regular Command Line commands.

You might look at the menu entry for Dolphin as su in Mepis. You can use the same pattern of choices in debian, SolidK, or whatever. It's a very powerful tool that Warren gave us.

As for the sudo, su debate, I prefer not to have to enter a password multiple times when needing root privileges. Just a choice.