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Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:06 pm**

System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-33-686-pae [6.1.133-1] arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-33-686-pae root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=802816
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_386 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 2000 Notebook PC v: 0686120000204A10000620100
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 v: 24.49 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
    v: F.47 date: 12/17/2011
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: N/A condition: N/A volts: N/A model: HP type: Li-ion serial: N/A
    status: not charging
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Bobcat level: v1
    built: 2011-13 process: GF 40nm family: 0x14 (20) model-id: 2 stepping: 0 microcode: 0x5000119
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 2x512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1070 high: 1317 min/max: 825/1650 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 823 2: 1317 bogomips: 6585
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm built: 2009-15 ports:
    active: LVDS-1 empty: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:9806 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Microdia HP Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-2:2
    chip-ID: 0c45:6321 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 362x204mm (14.25x8.03") s-diag: 416mm (16.36")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: Seiko Epson 0x315a built: 2012 res: 1366x768 hz: 60
    dpi: 101 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1366x768 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.1.0-33-686-pae LLVM 15.0.6)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-33-686-pae status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: wl v: kernel modules: bcma pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 07:00.0
    chip-ID: 14e4:4727 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 1-3:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:8153 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 16.41 GiB (3.5%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: HPM1
    scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 464.74 GiB size: 456.38 GiB (98.20%) used: 16.32 GiB (3.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 96.9 MiB (10.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 5.48 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 57.4 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 57.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2147 libs: 1077 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 209 Uptime: 19m wakeups: 4 Memory: 3.48 GiB used: 1.36 GiB (39.0%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Cannot find any info on installing Brave or any other browser. Firefox on my system is a resource hog and would like to replace it with one that may be faster if there is one. Please advise. Thanks!

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:12 pm**

Use the Popular Applications tab of the Package Installer to choose from (I think) 11 other browsers.

To help you in the future, the User Manual contains the information you needed to find this, and a lot more.

Chris

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:22 pm**

All browsers are resource hogs especially if you have multiple tabs open and multiple extensions installed, Chrome based browsers are actually heavier in my experience...

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:01 pm**

Rambo_Of_PA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:06 pm Cannot find any info on installing Brave or any other browser. Firefox on my system is a resource hog and would like to replace it with one that may be faster if there is one. Please advise. Thanks!

Don't think Brave is available for 32bit.

A quick mem consumption check an freshly booted ISO MX-23.6 32bit:
with installed browser from listed entries with MXPI->Pop.Apps->Browser:

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sudo ps_mem.py | grep -E 'firefox|palemoon|chromium|falkon'
112.8 MiB + -209.5 KiB = 112.5 MiB	palemoon
128.4 MiB +  22.2 MiB = 150.5 MiB	falkon
213.4 MiB +  78.4 MiB = 291.8 MiB	firefox-esr (8)
129.0 MiB + 179.1 MiB = 308.1 MiB	chromium (9)
267.5 MiB +  69.0 MiB = 336.6 MiB	firefox-bin (9)

and on a 64bit MX installation, manually additionally installed mullvad-browser:

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sudo ps_mem.py | grep -iE 'librewolf|firefox|mullvadbrowser|palemoon|chromium'
145.0 MiB +   1.2 MiB = 146.2 MiB	palemoon
277.1 MiB +  81.3 MiB = 358.4 MiB	mullvadbrowser.real (8)
285.7 MiB +  91.7 MiB = 377.4 MiB	firefox-esr (8)
232.5 MiB + 222.2 MiB = 454.7 MiB	chromium (10)
376.0 MiB + 102.8 MiB = 478.8 MiB	firefox-bin (9)
401.5 MiB + 100.6 MiB = 502.1 MiB	librewolf (9)

All with empty or nearly empty start/blank page.Palemoon therefore seems to use less memory than most others.
I missed to install falkon on 64bit, though.

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:19 pm**

Adrian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:22 pm All browsers are resource hogs especially if you have multiple tabs open and multiple extensions installed, Chrome based browsers are actually heavier in my experience...

Some more than others though....I installed Falkon and it seems to be a lot faster than Firefox and Chromium....Thanks everyone for helping out....greatly appreciated....

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:33 pm**

Brave browser is such a resource hog. When I use the Bleachbit app after browsing the internet, I notice that if I use Brave browser, it has about 3 to 4 times more cache to clean that Firefox. I tried other browsers, but Firefox seems to work best with just about all websites. I have used Seamonkey, Icecat, Opera, Vivaldi, Libre Wolf, etc, etc. All those other browsers seem to have some quirk that I can't log into some sites. But Firefox always works. ( knock on wood )

Posted: **Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:59 pm**

brave is indeed not available for 32bit systems,

but I wonder, why u use a 32bit os with a 64bit grafic card ...

I read about brave in this forum some time ago.
Since then, I replaced firefox and I the only usecase where I stil use firefox is watching videos in fullscreen.
Videoplayer of brave does not support a video window resized to 3 monitors.

respect to resource hog:
When I start brave, it tells me, that it saved me 6,6 GB downloading rubbish and saved me 3,5 hours waiting for bull.sh.it ...

You can get brave from: https://brave.com/linux/

P.S.: I replaced the browser of my mobile phone and use brave too

Posted: **Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:34 am**

django013 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:59 pm respect to resource hog:
When I start brave, it tells me, that it saved me 6,6 GB downloading rubbish and saved me 3,5 hours waiting for bull.sh.it ...

Better not believe that info. When using Brave use these settings https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... ers/#brave and UBO and a whole lot of crap wont be downloaded.
And https://www.kuketz-blog.de/einstellungen/#brave-desktop

UBO https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browse ... ock-origin

For FF https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... s/#firefox
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/brave-und-fi ... er-teil-2/

https://www.deepl.com/en/translator

Better not use Bleachbit.

Posted: **Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:09 am**

HP 2000 Notebook Laptop AMD E-450 1.65GHz 4GB RAM

You need upgrade RAM to 8gb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEaTV2LYX5Q

Modern lite browser is Firefox ESR 115. i think
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/desktop-esr/

This CPU spec better stay with MX 21.x supported until June 2026

Posted: **Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:34 am**

Midori is very lite browser , but won't do everything.
But I use Vivaldi 90% of the time

Posted: **Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:55 pm**

Awww...not much love for Pale Moon, for which I maintain the MX packages from source with increasing difficulty.

Posted: **Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:40 pm**

Stevo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:55 pm Awww...not much love for Pale Moon, for which I maintain the MX packages from source with increasing difficulty.

I don't really use Pale Moon anymore. Nothing wrong with the browser, but they had some problems with Cloudflare tightening the screws and thus making life more difficult for small browsers.
I didn't like their move to AVX, because I think their biggest strength is low-end computers. They have a unique advantage being single process and consuming less RAM because of it. Now, because of AVX they have higher minimum required specs than Chrome and company. Doesn't make sense to me. I'll keep it installed as long as SSE2 builds are available.

Posted: **Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:40 pm**

Stevo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:55 pm Awww...not much love for Pale Moon, for which I maintain the MX packages from source with increasing difficulty.

Keep the good work mate, I find Pale Moon one of the few corners of sanity in today's digital.

Posted: **Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:07 am**

dreamer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:40 pm
Stevo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:55 pm Awww...not much love for Pale Moon, for which I maintain the MX packages from source with increasing difficulty.
I don't really use Pale Moon anymore. Nothing wrong with the browser, but they had some problems with Cloudflare tightening the screws and thus making life more difficult for small browsers.
I didn't like their move to AVX, because I think their biggest strength is low-end computers. They have a unique advantage being single process and consuming less RAM because of it. Now, because of AVX they have higher minimum required specs than Chrome and company. Doesn't make sense to me. I'll keep it installed as long as SSE2 builds are available.

Since I compile Pale Moon from source code for our repositories, the packages in MX main are all SSE2. You have to upgrade to the AVX build in the test repo to get that feature (i.e., just upgrade the amd64 palemoon from test). This also means I have been able to provide i386, armhf, and arm64 native builds, which are no longer supported by the official Pale Moon binaries.

Posted: **Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:34 am**

Pretty Vacant wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:34 am
django013 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:59 pm respect to resource hog:
When I start brave, it tells me, that it saved me 6,6 GB downloading rubbish and saved me 3,5 hours waiting for bull.sh.it ...
Better not believe that info. When using Brave use these settings https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... ers/#brave and UBO and a whole lot of crap wont be downloaded.
And https://www.kuketz-blog.de/einstellungen/#brave-desktop

UBO https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browse ... ock-origin

For FF https://www.privacyguides.org/en/deskto ... s/#firefox
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/brave-und-fi ... er-teil-2/

https://www.deepl.com/en/translator

Better not use Bleachbit.

Thank you for the links.
Why not to use Bleachbit?

Posted: **Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:27 am**

Ungoogled-chromium, when used with antiX / MX ad blocker (a hosts file so no ads are downloaded, less cache to clear) is every bit as nimble and quick as any browser. I use it instead of Brave now. I played with Midori as well, but it's still got issues and lacks features.

Posted: **Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:44 am**

Mybe the following question relates also to this topic of Browsers:
What and how many browsers to use for privacy compartmentalization? For example
- Chromium for gmail, google translate, youtube
- librewolf for other websites accounts, apart Google, like forum.mxlinux.org
- maybe another browser for browsing the internet, or it is not necessary (can be used one of the above)?

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:19 am**

danux wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:44 am Mybe the following question relates also to this topic of Browsers:
What and how many browsers to use for privacy compartmentalization? For example
- Chromium for gmail, google translate, youtube
...

Looking for privacy safety and at the same time use all that google crap??? Not sure what you are about!?

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:18 am**

Pretty Vacant wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:19 am
danux wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:44 am Mybe the following question relates also to this topic of Browsers:
What and how many browsers to use for privacy compartmentalization? For example
- Chromium for gmail, google translate, youtube
...
Looking for privacy safety and at the same time use all that google crap??? Not sure what you are about!?

Don't you use Youtube, or Gmail? Maybe one can get rid of Gmail, but Youtube? This is a hard one.

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:34 am**

There is Freetube.

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:09 pm**

danux wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:18 am
Don't you use Youtube, or Gmail? Maybe one can get rid of Gmail, but Youtube? This is a hard one.

If you have cookies removed at close of browser, use something like ublock origin and dont log into anything before going to youtube it is now horrible. (And no, some of us RARELY go on youtube at all - and only for some music.)

However, if you really want to take control... have a look at this page

https://nomoregoogle.com/

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:31 pm**

CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:09 pm
danux wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:18 am
Don't you use Youtube, or Gmail? Maybe one can get rid of Gmail, but Youtube? This is a hard one.
If you have cookies removed at close of browser, use something like ublock origin and dont log into anything before going to youtube it is now horrible. (And no, some of us RARELY go on youtube at all - and only for some music.)

However, if you really want to take control... have a look at this page

https://nomoregoogle.com/

There are a lot to learn on Youtube, not only linux. I activated Adblock from Settings and use for this forum Librewolf (with Strict and delete cookies when out). Still need to install here ublock origin extension? It is better to open Youtube with another browser, say for example Brave, or can I open it in Librewolf, even if I'm logged in this forum? I assume that I should not log in Gmail account with this laptop to not get fingerprint associated with my external iP address (it's dinamic, but anyways).
Thanks for the advice and the link.

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:40 pm**

danux wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:31 pm
CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:09 pm
danux wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:18 am
Don't you use Youtube, or Gmail? Maybe one can get rid of Gmail, but Youtube? This is a hard one.
If you have cookies removed at close of browser, use something like ublock origin and dont log into anything before going to youtube it is now horrible. (And no, some of us RARELY go on youtube at all - and only for some music.)

However, if you really want to take control... have a look at this page

https://nomoregoogle.com/
There are a lot to learn on Youtube, not only linux. I activated Adblock from Settings and use for this forum Librewolf (with Strict and delete cookies when out). Still need to install here ublock origin extension? It is better to open Youtube with another browser, say for example Brave, or can I open it in Librewolf, even if I'm logged in this forum? I assume that I should not log in Gmail account with this laptop to not get fingerprint associated with my external iP address (it's dinamic, but anyways).
Thanks for the advice and the link.

You can definitely run a private window or secondary web browser. I use firefox, and delete everything when I close it ( and I dont browse longer than around 10 or so sites unless I close it and kill everything ( this forum excluded) .

But often I use new private window to isolate and open something too (amazon, or another 'invasive' shop etc) . There are quite a few methods you can use to lose trackers and history's.

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:41 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:34 am There is Freetube.

For this one I assume I have to install the flatpak freetube?

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:47 pm**

No, there is an appimage as well as a deb installer on their website.

https://freetubeapp.io/#download

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:13 pm**

I almost never use Youtube directly, I use LibRedirect but since Youtube's been at battle with everyone (UBO, etc.), LibRedirect is not nearly as functional as it used to be as I have to keep "Shift+Alt+L" – To switch to a different instance and it's not nearly as good as it was.
Additionally, invidious instances are down to about 6 (with maybe only 2 two working) whereas they used to have maybe 3 dozen or more.

One thing that usually works when all else fails is pasting the invidious url inside Freetube.

https://api.invidious.io/?sort_by=version
https://redirect.invidious.io/ There is another similar youtube fronted.
https://libredirect.github.io/docs.html
https://alternativeto.net/software/invidious/
https://github.com/pluja/awesome-privac ... d-managers

Search for youtube frontends, I have over a dozen YT alternatives or frontends bookmarked.
Search Privacy guides, EFF, etc.
Haven't tried farside yet.

To update Freetube flatpak:

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flatpak update io.freetubeapp.FreeTube

Cheers

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:24 pm**

CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:47 pm No, there is an appimage as well as a deb installer on their website.

https://freetubeapp.io/#download

IIRC I grabbed the deb.

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:48 pm**

CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:47 pm No, there is an appimage as well as a deb installer on their website.

https://freetubeapp.io/#download

Thank you, Charles. I installed Freetube from .deb file. It's great. There are on Freetube all my subscriptions from Youtube. I think I can get rid of Youtube, finally. No adds, to tracking, @runwiththedolphin is there, great. Just, I can't figure how to write comments. I see people commenting there, but there is no reply button.

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:25 pm**

danux wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:48 pm
CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:47 pm No, there is an appimage as well as a deb installer on their website.

https://freetubeapp.io/#download
Thank you, Charles. I installed Freetube from .deb file. It's great. There are on Freetube all my subscriptions from Youtube. I think I can get rid of Youtube, finally. No adds, to tracking, @runwiththedolphin is there, great. Just, I can't figure how to write comments. I see people commenting there, but there is no reply button.

Your very welcome. Reply is only for logged in users ... and there goes your privacy :-)

Posted: **Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:54 pm**

CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:25 pm
danux wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:48 pm
CharlesV wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:47 pm No, there is an appimage as well as a deb installer on their website.

https://freetubeapp.io/#download
Thank you, Charles. I installed Freetube from .deb file. It's great. There are on Freetube all my subscriptions from Youtube. I think I can get rid of Youtube, finally. No adds, to tracking, @runwiththedolphin is there, great. Just, I can't figure how to write comments. I see people commenting there, but there is no reply button.
Your very welcome. Reply is only for logged in users ... and there goes your privacy :-)

Yes, and sorry to say there goes Freetube too, since it's buggy, not all videos are working. I rejoiced to soon. Now I gave up after trying all the Local API and Invidious API instances BULL!!!T, that doesn't work. Back to Youtube. I think I will do the browser compartmentalization: Youtube, Gmail, Amazon on chromium or brave, internet browsing and forum on librewolf, and call it a day.

Posted: **Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:30 am**

Possibly try these, but yes YT does win a few rounds.
Current instance will be randomized on startup.

Ex. this link states: https://inv.nadeko.net/feed/popular
"This instance is not available due to the recent youtube changes made (again) near to 2025-04-28 at ~03:00 UTC" just today.

And two 1/2's of a YT wack-a-mole

do not = 1 wack-a-mole smiley.

EDIT using v0.23.4 Beta of flatpack, but they do lag a little.

Cheers!

Posted: **Tue Apr 29, 2025 6:46 am**

MXRobo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:30 am Possibly try these, but yes YT does win a few rounds.
Current instance will be randomized on startup.

Ex. this link states: https://inv.nadeko.net/feed/popular
"This instance is not available due to the recent youtube changes made (again) near to 2025-04-28 at ~03:00 UTC" just today.

And two 1/2's of a YT wack-a-mole do not = 1 wack-a-mole smiley.

EDIT using v0.23.4 Beta of flatpack, but they do lag a little.

Cheers!

I have the same version v0.23.4 but it is .deb file from freetube site, see screenshot

It doesn't work neither with your settings, nor with other invidious instances, see settings screenshots and error screenshots

I tried all the above invidious instances and they all give me the above errors.

I also changed the region from US to Germany and UK, the same result.

https://inv.nadeko.net/feed/popular also doesn't work.

Maybe it works installed from flatpaks, but I have enough trying, I will stay with youtube in chromium, works great.

Thanx anyway.

Posted: **Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:19 pm**

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-33-686-pae [6.1.133-1] arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-33-686-pae root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=802816
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_386 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 2000 Notebook PC v: 0686120000204A10000620100
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 v: 24.49 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
    v: F.47 date: 12/17/2011
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: N/A condition: N/A volts: N/A model: HP type: Li-ion serial: N/A
    status: not charging
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Bobcat level: v1
    built: 2011-13 process: GF 40nm family: 0x14 (20) model-id: 2 stepping: 0 microcode: 0x5000119
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 2x512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1215 high: 1260 min/max: 825/1650 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1260 2: 1170 bogomips: 6585
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm built: 2009-15 ports:
    active: LVDS-1 empty: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:9806 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Microdia HP Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-2:2
    chip-ID: 0c45:6321 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 362x204mm (14.25x8.03") s-diag: 416mm (16.36")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: Seiko Epson 0x315a built: 2012 res: 1366x768 hz: 60
    dpi: 101 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1366x768 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.1.0-33-686-pae LLVM 15.0.6)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-33-686-pae status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: wl v: kernel modules: bcma pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 07:00.0
    chip-ID: 14e4:4727 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 1-3:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:8153 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 16.71 GiB (3.6%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: HPM1
    scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 464.74 GiB size: 456.38 GiB (98.20%) used: 16.62 GiB (3.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 96.9 MiB (10.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 5.48 GiB used: 1 MiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 56.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 56.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2233 libs: 1154 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 190 Uptime: 32m wakeups: 4 Memory: 3.48 GiB used: 1.17 GiB (33.5%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Above are my system specs once again and even when using Falkon the CPU shows high usage as shown in attached screenshot....don't understand why....any advice/insight greatly appreciated.....

Posted: **Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:15 pm**

Rambo_Of_PA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:19 pm

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-33-686-pae [6.1.133-1] arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.1.0-33-686-pae root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=802816
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_386 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 2000 Notebook PC v: 0686120000204A10000620100
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 v: 24.49 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
    v: F.47 date: 12/17/2011
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: N/A condition: N/A volts: N/A model: HP type: Li-ion serial: N/A
    status: not charging
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Bobcat level: v1
    built: 2011-13 process: GF 40nm family: 0x14 (20) model-id: 2 stepping: 0 microcode: 0x5000119
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 2x512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1215 high: 1260 min/max: 825/1650 boost: disabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1260 2: 1170 bogomips: 6585
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; STIBP: disabled; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not
    affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale-2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm built: 2009-15 ports:
    active: LVDS-1 empty: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:9806 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Microdia HP Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-2:2
    chip-ID: 0c45:6321 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 362x204mm (14.25x8.03") s-diag: 416mm (16.36")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: Seiko Epson 0x315a built: 2012 res: 1366x768 hz: 60
    dpi: 101 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1366x768 min: 640x480
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.1.0-33-686-pae LLVM 15.0.6)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-33-686-pae status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: wl v: kernel modules: bcma pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 07:00.0
    chip-ID: 14e4:4727 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152 bus-ID: 1-3:3
    chip-ID: 0bda:8153 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: eth1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 16.71 GiB (3.6%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST9500325AS size: 465.76 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: HPM1
    scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 464.74 GiB size: 456.38 GiB (98.20%) used: 16.62 GiB (3.6%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: luks-<filter>
  ID-2: /boot raw-size: 1024 MiB size: 973.4 MiB (95.06%) used: 96.9 MiB (10.0%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 5.48 GiB used: 1 MiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 56.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 56.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2233 libs: 1154 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 190 Uptime: 32m wakeups: 4 Memory: 3.48 GiB used: 1.17 GiB (33.5%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Above are my system specs once again and even when using Falkon the CPU shows high usage as shown in attached screenshot....don't understand why....any advice/insight greatly appreciated.....

You could run top or htop in a terminal to see what's eating the CPU cycles.

Posted: **Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:31 pm**

Only happens when surfing, when Falkon or Firefox aren't running CPU usage is very low....

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