[Newbie] Does an RTX 3070 and I7-12700k work with MX-Linux? And other qeustions [Solved]

[CharlesV]

Sorry, yes... mx repo, then Individual Sources and the third mx.list (ends in ahs )

I personally setup timeshift right after installs, and then I do a manual timeshift as I progress through installing things. (I do NOT like bricked systems, and while MX is really good about not doing that... I have had video or other tweaks take me down - so.. timeshift provides me the ability to roll back should I or an update do something to my system.)

For removal... wine and lutris both write configuration down into your user folder, config and local share folders ( ~/.wine, ~/.config/lutris and ~/.local/share/lutris), so you will need to make backup copies of these before you tweak them, and also if you want to remove them you have to do that manually.

To completely remove wine & lutris ...

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sudo apt remove --purge wine 
sudo apt remove --purge winehq-stable
sudo apt remove --purge lutris 
sudo apt autoremove

and then to remove your settings:

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rm -rf $~/.wine
rm -rf ~/.config/lutris 
rm -rf ~/.local/share/lutris

[Noax]

Thank you again for your answers! These will help a lot

So I finished my kernel update but for whatever reason it seems after rebooting I now am running on 6.13.8-4-liquorix-amd64 [6.13-9~mx23ahs] but I have 6.12.17 selected as the picture below it is still selected. Should I go to boot menu and boot in with the other kernel?
Is it "bad"?

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Snapshot created on: 20250318_1840
System:
  Kernel: 6.13.8-4-liquorix-amd64 [6.13-9~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.13.8-4-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet nomodeset splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_x64 Libretto March 18  2025 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: Z690 AORUS PRO v: -CF serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z690 AORUS PRO serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends
    LLC. v: F8e date: 03/14/2022
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700K bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake gen: core 12
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x97 (151)
    stepping: 2 microcode: 0x38
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 12 mt: 8 tpc: 2 st: 4 threads: 20 smt: enabled cache: L1: 1024 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB, 8x48 KiB; i-8x32 KiB, 4x64 KiB L2: 12 MiB desc: 8x1.2 MiB, 1x2 MiB L3: 25 MiB
    desc: 1x25 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1185 high: 3601 min/max: 800/3601 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 3601 4: 800 5: 2412 6: 900
    7: 1091 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 13: 800 14: 800 15: 800 16: 800 17: 800 18: 900
    19: 3601 20: 800 bogomips: 144383
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel AlderLake-S GT1 vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A alternate: i915, xe bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:4680 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 [GeForce RTX 3070 Lite Hash Rate] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia
    v: 535.216.03 non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Ampere code: GAxxx
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2488 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0
    driver: X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv gpu: nvidia
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x2160 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1017x572mm (40.04x22.52")
    s-diag: 1167mm (45.94")
  Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 3840x2160 hz: 60 dpi: 157 size: 621x341mm (24.45x13.43")
    diag: 708mm (27.89") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.216.03 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070/PCIe/SSE2
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-S HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 1-12.2:8
    v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs,snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl chip-ID: 1532:0504 bus-ID: 00:1f.3
    class-ID: 0300 chip-ID: 8086:7ad0 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:228b class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Razer USA Kraken 7.1 Chroma type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
  Device-4: Giga-Byte USB Audio type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus-ID: 1-4:2
    chip-ID: 0414:a012 class-ID: 0300
  API: ALSA v: k6.13.8-4-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I225-V vendor: Gigabyte driver: igc v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:15f3 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-14:12 chip-ID: 8087:0029
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.2
    sub-v: 2184 hci-v: 5.2 rev: 2184
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.64 TiB used: 1.94 TiB (53.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 5B2QGXA7 temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 980 PRO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 5B2QGXA7 temp: 34.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST2000DM008-2UB102 size: 1.82 TiB
    block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
    rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 279.38 GiB size: 273.93 GiB (98.05%) used: 23.71 GiB (8.7%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p2 maj-min: 259:4
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1 maj-min: 259:3
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 651.88 GiB size: 640.58 GiB (98.27%) used: 28.82 GiB (4.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme1n1p3 maj-min: 259:5
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 6 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 38 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Repos:
  Packages: 2469 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2455 libs: 1308 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 14
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 424 Uptime: 4m wakeups: 1 Memory: 31.13 GiB used: 2.2 GiB (7.1%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

EDIT: With my current wine setup its now possible to run Gothic 2! That helped me a lot^^

[CharlesV]

Checking that liquorix 64 (ahs update) means that you will be running the latest Liquorix as it is updated to AHS. Some people prefer to keep a known kernel that works for them, until they are ready to move on. But some folks want the latest - which is what that setting does.. it will keep updating as a newer kernel is put out to the ah repo.

Some people have had trouble with the 6.13.x series, I decided that I would stick with the 6.12.x series until I see how the 6.14 kernel works out.. but that is me, I prefer NOT to be on the bleeding edge :)

If the 6.13 doesnt cause issues, I think that would be just fine.

[Noax]

So I deinstalled the 6.13 core because I also dont want to be bleeding edge and all of the things I did with the system still functions. + I got Gothic 2 to work. Now I will see how I can integrate Spine in their... but that are luxus problems.
It seems like I can do all the things (except some games) on this new OS like on win and I think that will be our new OS for the future. Only one thing now must work for my father and me so then we are Microsoft free (except for my pc on work...) namely driver for printer. But the site you mentioned is also the site I used so that will hopefully be okay.

I want to let this thread an little bit more open when its okay? In an few weeks I want to have all of our PC`s switched to MX Linux and in these few weeks I think I would like to have this thread for more "beginner" qeustions when needed.

So atlast: I thank you guys (especially CharlesV!) for all of your time that you took and helped me! I think you guys are awesome! :-)


Read you all later
Have a nice week :-)

[CharlesV]

Your very welcome! and glad you have a path to what you want. And yup, you can leave the topic open and post back if you need too.

[MXRobo]

@CharlesV
I don't know about Epson printers at all, but I thought that perhaps you don't always need to install printer drivers.
Does this do anything, or help - to be ran in terminal as an inquiry, not an active command – in other words, it's safe to do and won't make any modifications.

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apt policy printer-driver-escpr

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apt show printer-driver-escpr

My system is MX-21.3 Xfce, not 23/

Also, @Noax , when you get your system a little more customized and setup, you can make a MX-Snapshot (you can use gtkhash to check the iso checksums), then use MX-Live-USB-Maker to put on a flash drive to install for your father's computer. Don't run MX-Cleaup → Remove unused wifi drivers from the Snapshotted laptop until you have made the MX-Snapshot as it may remove some wifi drivers that are required for a different laptop.

Other experts can comment here, but if you trust your father (and he's not to tech savvy), I think it may be safe to use MX-Snapshot → Personal backup – as opposed to "Resetting accounts"; giving others a Personal backup is not recommended as some personal info could be revealed. Also, it'd depends on how much personal info you have on the laptop, if it's just gaming and not much else, then it's probably not as crucial. The Personal backup retains almost all of you home settings and .configs (including your user name), but your father could either retain and use your user name, or you could use MX User Manager and create anther user for him, also copy or sync some things over to him - just my two cents. Not sure how this works, did only once a few years ago, maybe others can help with this later.
Again, a Personal backup is not recommended for distribution to others. - ??

Also, maybe install, run, and save the file created by User Installed Packages, then use that to transfer the main apt installed files that were on your laptop, to your father's; UIP doesn’t' include flatpaks and some other installed packages.

Cheers!

[CharlesV]

@CharlesV
I don't know about Epson printers at all, but I thought that perhaps you don't always need to install printer drivers.
Does this do anything, or help - to be ran in terminal as an inquiry, not an active command – in other words, it's safe to do and won't make any modifications.

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apt policy printer-driver-escpr

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apt show printer-driver-escpr

My system is MX-21.3 Xfce, not 23/

For many Epson printers that will work well.

However, if you have scanning with the printer ( EcoTanks, etc), then that escpr driver is problematic in my experience - sometimes you have a scanner and sometimes you dont. When you search for the printer model in the Epson drivers, it provides both a printer driver as well as scanner driver and the printing / scanning seems to be a little more stable.

[Noax]

So thank you again for your replies. I will try all that out when I have the most workload from this OS switching from all of our PCś behind me.

So I am trying now to get the Epson SX130 printer to work and succeeded, mostly. I have an aplication named "... utility" for my ink usage and cant bring it to work without booting in systemd. I did that and succeeded but now I am forever bound to the systemd version of MXLinux. I red quite a few notes about systemd and how it afftects the system etc. so 3 qeustions:

Is systemd "bad"?

Will "systemd" be supported in future MXLinux releases?

And can I circumvent systemd to bring this programm to work?
Or is it possible to show me my ink levels without the "... utility" programm and systemd?

One screenshot:

[CharlesV]

MX Linux supports BOTH systemd and sysvinit , you can boot to either one in grub. (or choose with MX Boot Options)

No, systemd isnt 'bad' but it is a different method of starting / running Linux - some people dont like it, some people do.

There are a few applications / services that only ship systemd, and many can be setup to run sysvinit with a little work. I have not seen this issue with the EcoTank printers,

and the big question is where you downloaded that utility. Most likely the utility can run under sysvinit, but will nee a little tweaking to the scripts that run it.

[Noax]

Its the .deb package from https://support.epson.net/linux/Printer ... tility.php

Here is an explanation: https://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/0 ... c42717f80a

This utility is in use for an bunch of epson printers.

So I researched now like 4 hours and give up... I cant bring anything (except the utility programm with systemd boot) to work with ink level what we need because on this printer isnt an display...
When you know of a method how to "script" it to ensure it runs without systemd (I already tried to install under systemd boot and switched back but then this programm doesnt work) that would be great

I already tried also the "ink" package to show ink level over terminal input
And "driverless" printer setup over the package "ISP-USB".
Nothing works with ink level without systemd.
I was only able to see my ink level onetime over the package "ink" and couldnt see it with the "driverless" setup.

But all methods are super for simply setup. I printed and scanned in the like first 10 minutes of setting up the printer. Its just this damn ink levels...

EDIT: And I also fiddled a little with WSL but... thats somewhat more complicated I think...