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XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:08 am
by zopeck
Hi,

Today I updated my system from XFCE 4.18 to 4.20, and found out that many structures changed from my locale which is es_UY.UTF-8, to english.

I verified that the MX locales is correctly configured (to es_UY.UTF-8).

Which "structures" changed to english?:
- Whisker menu, "Favorites" "Recently used" and "All Applications" should be shown as "Favoritos" "Usados recientemente" and "Todas las aplicaciones" respectively.
- Thunar file manager appears now in english.
- The "Logout menu", the window title and the name of all buttons.
- Many of the plugins and XFCE tools like the screenshot, keyboard shortcuts, mouse and touchpad and so on.

Below you can find my system info:

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Snapshot created on: 20250103_0919
System:
  Kernel: 6.12.6-1-liquorix-amd64 [6.12-7~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable amd_pstate=disable BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12.6-1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet loglevel=3 splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.0 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: Compiz v: 0.8.18 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_ahs_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux
    12 (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 82SF v: IdeaPad 5 15IAL7 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 v: IdeaPad 5 15IAL7 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0T76463 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
    v: JBCN28WW date: 12/15/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 53.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 53.1/57.0 Wh (93.1%) volts: 13.0 min: 11.5
    model: SMP L19M3PF6 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: full cycles: 170
CPU:
  Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-1255U bits: 64 type: MST AMCP arch: Alder Lake level: v3
    note: check built: 2021+ process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x9A (154) stepping: 4
    microcode: 0x435
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 10 mt: 2 tpc: 2 st: 8 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 928 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB, 2x48 KiB; i-2x32 KiB, 8x64 KiB L2: 6.5 MiB desc: 2x1.2 MiB, 2x2 MiB L3: 12 MiB
    desc: 1x12 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1105 high: 3942 min/max: 400/4700:3500 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
    governor: performance cores: 1: 3440 2: 400 3: 3942 4: 400 5: 817 6: 400 7: 400 8: 400 9: 1868
    10: 400 11: 400 12: 400 bogomips: 62668
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB: conditional; RSB filling;
    PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    alternate: xe arch: Gen-12.2 process: Intel 10nm built: 2021-22+ ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: DP-1,DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:46a8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA TU117M [GeForce MX550] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 535.216.03
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Turing code: TUxxx process: TSMC 12nm FF
    built: 2018-22 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1f9f class-ID: 0302
  Device-3: Bison Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-8:3 chip-ID: 5986:214d
    class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Compiz v: 0.8.18 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26") s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x08c2 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 142
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 24.2.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel Graphics (ADL GT2)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl alternate: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
    bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:51c8 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.6-1-liquorix-amd64 status: kernel-api with: aoss type: oss-emulator
    tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 status: off tools: jack_control,qjackctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:51f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: tempestbr state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: tempesttap state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-10:4 chip-ID: 8087:0026
    class-ID: e001
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no
    software: yes address: <filter>
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 137.17 GiB (28.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD PC SN740 SDDPMQD-512G-1101
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 73110001 temp: 35.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 198.04 GiB size: 193.87 GiB (97.90%) used: 137.17 GiB (70.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 3 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 3271 libs: 1675 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb https://mirrors.aliyun.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb https://mirrors.aliyun.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/warpdotdev.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/warpdotdev.gpg] https://releases.warp.dev/linux/deb stable main
Info:
  Processes: 350 Uptime: 1h 9m wakeups: 65255 Memory: 15.35 GiB used: 3 GiB (19.6%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:04 am
by zopeck
Hi there!
Happy new year to all!
Is there any news related to this bug? I would appreciate very much any insight. Regards.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:41 am
by j2mcgreg
The problem with Post Image has now been fixed and you will have to repost the screenshot that you refer to in post #1.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:42 am
by dolphin_oracle
Maybe post the output of your

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locales
command.

FWIW, I cannot reproduce it at the moment.

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locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

screenshot of whisker.


Image

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:39 am
by zopeck
Hi,
Thanks for your answer, I am posting an image of my start menu so you can see what I am talking about. Regards.
Image

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:39 am
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:08 am Hi,

Today I updated my system from XFCE 4.18 to 4.20, and found out that many structures changed from my locale which is es_UY.UTF-8, to english.

I verified that the MX locales is correctly configured (to es_UY.UTF-8).

Which "structures" changed to english?:
- Whisker menu, "Favorites" "Recently used" and "All Applications" should be shown as "Favoritos" "Usados recientemente" and "Todas las aplicaciones" respectively.
- Thunar file manager appears now in english.
- The "Logout menu", the window title and the name of all buttons.
- Many of the plugins and XFCE tools like the screenshot, keyboard shortcuts, mouse and touchpad and so on.
Perhaps a quick check:
open terminal and run these two commands:

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gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used'
and

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env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used'
the last one gives here:

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env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used'
Aplicaciones recientes
If not, seems your tweaked system is somehow in disorder regarding locale setup.
As mentioned already, please post the output of this command (not "locales" but "locale"):

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locale

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:55 am
by zopeck
Hi,
Thanks for answering. Here is the output of the commands:

First command: " gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Second command: " env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Third command: "locale"
Its output following:
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:17 am
by zopeck
Following is the output of: "locale -a":

C
C.utf8
es_UY.utf8
POSIX

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:42 am
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:55 am Hi,
Thanks for answering. Here is the output of the commands:

First command: " gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Second command: " env LANG=es_UY.utf8 gettext -d xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin -s 'Recently Used' "
Its output: "Aplicaciones recientes"

Third command: "locale"
Its output following:
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_UY.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8
Thanks, so it appears all is set properly. And the translation for the example string 'Recently Used'
is also properly provided by the underlying gettext-based locale system.
But still the whisker menu shows untranlsated English strings.
So it seems we need to dig a bit deeper.
Next: Please show system-wide defined default locale with this command :

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cat /etc/default/locale
and also
What happens if you are running this command:

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xfce4-popup-whiskermenu -p
I guess you still have "Favorites", "Recently Used" and "All applications" in English, right?
Another test: Can you create a new user (for testing) with the tool "MX User" ,
and login as the new user. Would the whisker menu still have untranslated strings?

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:55 am
by zopeck
Hi, here is the output of your last request:

cat /etc/default/locale:
# File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8

xfce4-popup-whiskermenu -p:
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And something strange:

I know that the translation of the whisker menu for example is located in:
/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo

And if I do:
find (or) sudo find /usr/share/locale/ -type f -iname 'xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.m[o]' I get NOTHING on the CLI output (an empty line).

But if I do:
find /usr/share/locale/ -type f -iname 'yelp.m[o]' (another file that I know exists) I get all language versions of the file.

But if i do:
locate xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo I get the output which is the location with the full path of the plugins files for all languages, including of course, the "es"

UPDATE:
I did "sudo updatedb" and then tried again, but the command "locate xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo" does not return ANY output.

I navigate to: /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/ and try to list the file xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo and IT DOES NOT EXIST.

Please let me know. Regards.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:03 am
by zopeck
Oh! And to answer your question sorry:

If I create a new user and login I find the same issues as with my user, so, it seems the problem is system wide, not user level.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:10 am
by dolphin_oracle
We didn’t push an update to whisker menu with the 4.20 updates. Maybe try the one in test repo.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:17 am
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:55 am cat /etc/default/locale:
# File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8
Please do not set LC_ALL within /etc/default/locale, it can confuse the system in quite a number of different ways.
E.g reset with:

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sudo update-locale --reset LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LC_ALL is not meant to be set permanently.
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:55 am I know that the translation of the whisker menu for example is located in:
/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo
..
I navigate to: /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/ and try to list the file xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo and IT DOES NOT EXIST.
Perhaps first update package list:

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sudo apt update
and show this, so we see what you have:

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apt policy xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
Next, depending what the previous command has shown:

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sudo apt reinstall xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
followed by

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ls -nl /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:04 am
by zopeck
Following is the output of the command: "apt policy xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin"

$ apt policy xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin:
Instalados: 2.7.2-1
Candidato: 2.7.2-1
Tabla de versión:
2.9.0-0.1~mx23+2 1
1 https://mirrors.aliyun.com/mxlinux/mx/testrepo bookworm/test amd64 Packages
*** 2.7.2-1 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:07 am
by zopeck
I did reinstall the package xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin, it installed without issues.

Next, I did: "ls -nl /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo" and the system gave me:

"ls: no se puede acceder a '/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo': No such file or directory"

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:14 am
by zopeck
Here's a screenshot of the repos defined within synaptic package manager:

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Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:24 am
by zopeck
It's something weird:

Although I open synaptic package manager and fully uninstall "xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin" and install it again, then, to validate, after install I verify the installed files, so you can see:

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But, if you do a "ls -nl /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo", the system answer is:

ls: no se puede acceder a '/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo': No such file or directory

So, synaptic tells me it is installed in that path, but ls is telling me there is no file. I am confused.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:01 am
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:07 am I did reinstall the package xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin, it installed without issues.

Next, I did: "ls -nl /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo" and the system gave me:

"ls: no se puede acceder a '/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.mo': No such file or directory"
First before you do anything else do remove LC_ALL from default locale as mentioned already and do reboot.
Please confirm.
Next given that you seem to like using root/sudo on commandline, you may have wrong permssions set somehow:
show this, open terminal as normal user und run:

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ls -adnl /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES
Please post within code-block.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:24 am
by zopeck
Hi,

Following is the result of your last query:

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$ cat /etc/default/locale
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
#LC_ALL=es_UY.UTF-8
And the output of: "ls -adnl /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES"

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$ ls -adnl /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 may 12  2024 /usr/share/locale/aa/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 nov  9 12:41 /usr/share/locale/ab/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 oct 14  2023 /usr/share/locale/ace/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 ene 12 09:02 /usr/share/locale/ach/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 ene 15 07:41 /usr/share/locale/af/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 abr 11  2024 /usr/share/locale/ak/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 jun 13  2024 /usr/share/locale/am_ET/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 feb 16 12:15 /usr/share/locale/am/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 nov  9 12:41 /usr/share/locale/ang/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 ene 12 09:03 /usr/share/locale/an/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 abr 11  2024 /usr/share/locale/ar_AR/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 12288 feb 16 12:15 /usr/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 abr 11  2024 /usr/share/locale/ar_SA/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 may 12  2024 /usr/share/locale/ary/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 jun 13  2024 /usr/share/locale/as_IN/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 ene 15 07:41 /usr/share/locale/as/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 feb 16 10:08 /usr/share/locale/ast/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 may 12  2024 /usr/share/locale/ay/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 nov  9 12:41 /usr/share/locale/az_IR/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 ene 19 10:45 /usr/share/locale/az/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 oct 14  2023 /usr/share/locale/ba/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 oct 14  2023 /usr/share/locale/bal/LC_MESSAGES
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0  4096 oct 14  2023 /usr/share/locale/bar/LC_MESSAGES
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Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:37 am
by zopeck
Besides, it is not only happening with whisker menu, but also with the other xfce4 tools (I mean power manager, notes, appfinder, clipman, display settings, session logout and so on), they all also appear in English.

As you no doubt have seen, I tried to change the default language from:
es_UY.UTF-8
to:
es_ES.UTF-8

but with no joy.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:05 pm
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:37 am Besides, it is not only happening with whisker menu, but also with the other xfce4 tools (I mean power manager, notes, appfinder, clipman, display settings, session logout and so on), they all also appear in English.

As you no doubt have seen, I tried to change the default language from:
es_UY.UTF-8
to:
es_ES.UTF-8

but with no joy.
So the main issue the xfce translations seem not to get installed, or mayb get remoed during installtion:
And this command returns only an error messsage?

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sudo  ls -l /usr/share/locale/es*/LC_MESSAGES/xf*
Maybe check you have by no other manually installed packages or in any otherway created diversions :

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sudo dpkg-divert --list "*/xf*"
any output?

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:12 pm
by zopeck
I have more information, I do not know if it would be of any help:

I have timeshift snapshot of the system, before updating to XFCE 4.20 (when it was ver. 4.18).
I restored it and the XFCE tools mentioned before (including whisker menu) are in spanish, I mean they are ok, full 100%. It seems the issue occurs when upgrading from xfce ver. 4.18 to 4.20

Just in case, of course, previously I also did another snapshot of the upgraded system, cause I would like to keep up with the system regular updates.

So, if you need any information regarding the state of the system before the XFCE update, please let me know. Otherwise I will proceed with the system regular updates and follow up with the current state of the topic.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:16 pm
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:12 pm I have more information, I do not know if it would be of any help:

I have timeshift snapshot of the system, before updating to XFCE 4.20 (when it was ver. 4.18).
I restored it and the XFCE tools mentioned before (including whisker menu) are in spanish, I mean they are ok, full 100%. It seems the issue occurs when upgrading from xfce ver. 4.18 to 4.20

Just in case, of course, previously I also did another snapshot of the upgraded system, cause I would like to keep up with the system regular updates.

So, if you need any information regarding the state of the system before the XFCE update, please let me know. Otherwise I will proceed with the system regular updates and follow up with the current state of the topic.
First make sure, you get rid of LC_ALL and reboot.
As you are the only one mentioned such an unusual issue, with disappearing translation files, it's rather unlikely to be a general issue.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:35 pm
by zopeck
Perhaps it would be of help to see the list of updates, since the state of the system now is with XFCE ver. 4.18, in the list of updates, I can not see the whisker-menu, when I can see the other xfce tools:

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actualización completa
  Leyendo lista de paquetes...
  Creando árbol de dependencias...
  Leyendo la información de estado...
  Calculando la actualización...
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  Se necesita descargar 464 MB de archivos.
  Se utilizarán 26,3 MB de espacio de disco adicional después de esta operación.
First make sure, you get rid of LC_ALL and reboot.
As you are the only one mentioned such an unusual issue, with disappearing translation files, it's rather unlikely to be a general issue.
I will try and update the system as it is now, and see if it is of any help. If not, then I will restore the backup and proceed as you told me in your last quote. I will let you know soon. Thanks.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm
by zopeck
Here the results:

Updating the system today, from ver. 4.18 to 4.20 ended up with the same issue, so I restored the timeshift backup.
First make sure, you get rid of LC_ALL and reboot.

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/etc/default
$ cat locale
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
Reboot the system, with no avail.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:54 pm
by zopeck
Hi,
Finally I came up with a workaround and solved the problem, momentarily. Thanks for all your great effort and valuable time. I would not say it is "solved", but I can say we can proceed to "close" the case. Cheers.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:58 pm
by Eadwine Rose
You came up with a workaround.. what is the workaround?

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:04 pm
by fehlix
zopeck wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm Here the results:

Updating the system today, from ver. 4.18 to 4.20 ended up with the same issue, so I restored the timeshift backup.
First make sure, you get rid of LC_ALL and reboot.

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/etc/default
$ cat locale
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
Reboot the system, with no avail.
Take LC_ALL out of /etc/default/locale, remove the line LC_ALL, this is not meant to be set within /etc/default/locale.
If LC_ALL is set even to in empty value, your system gets confused.

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:11 pm
by zopeck
Hi Fehlix, Eadwine,
Take LC_ALL out of /etc/default, remove the line LC_ALL, this is not meant to be set within /etc/default.
If LC_ALL is set even to in empty value, your system get's confused.
I will do that later and let you know the results. Thanks.
You came up with a workaround.. what is the workaround?
I had a timeshift backup with XFCE ver. 4.18, so I restored this snapshot, then with "apt policy" and "dpkg -l | grep -i 'xfc[e]'" I listed the components of my xfce desktop and then I did a script in order to do "apt-mark hold" to all the files.
In this way, I can continue updating my system and I have the assurance that the files in XFCE won't change so momentarily won't have the issue. I hope this gives me time to think about how to migrate my configurations to a new setup, if Fehlix's solution does not work.

Cheers!

Re: XFCE 4.20 Update --> Locales not 100% correct

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:23 am
by zopeck
Hello,
Today I did what Fehlix told me:
Take LC_ALL out of /etc/default, remove the line LC_ALL, this is not meant to be set within /etc/default.
If LC_ALL is set even to in empty value, your system get's confused.
And verified that the contents of /etc/default/locale does not cause any problem:

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$ cat /etc/default/locale 
#  File generated by update-locale
LANG=es_UY.UTF-8
Then proceeded to:

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sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
The previous commands executed without errors, then I did:

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xfce4-panel restart
But the anomaly expressed itself again:
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So, I guess there is no point investing more time on this. I will rollback the changes, revert to my previous configuration and plan to do a full re-install, trying to export my desktop configuration and files.

As a matter of fact, it would be useful if instead of trying to solve this, may be you have a good idea on how to export my desktop configuration, save it somehow, so in order to apply after the new install I would not have to invest time doing command by command to take the new installment to the state of the desktop as I have and like now.