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Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:19 am
by paul1149
When I click on "More information", it says they were distributed by "Flathub (user)".

I tried to leave a review but it wouldn't accept it. Clicking on the Website link takes one to gnome, not flathub. And flathub.com doesn't list the file.

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Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:22 am
by paul1149
Here's my list of installed flatpaks. I had forgotten another recent flatpak for me was Pinta.


flatpak list
… Applica… Version Branch Origin Installation
… …t.Pinta 2.1.2 stable flathub system
… …Foliate 3.2.0 stable flathub system
… …creenNG 4.3.0 stable flathub system
… …rakeCLI stable handbrakecli-origin system
… …ake.ghb 1.9.0 stable flathub user
… …iscrcpy 4.11.3 stable flathub system
… …ins.TAP 1.0.1 23.08 flathub system
… …ins.swh 0.4.17 23.08 flathub system
… …latform freedesktop-sdk-23.08.25 23.08 flathub system
… …default 21.3.9 21.08 flathub system
… …default 24.2.5 23.08 flathub system
… …default 24.2.5 23.08-extra flathub system
… …default 24.2.7 24.08 flathub system
… …default 24.2.7 24.08 flathub user
… …default 24.2.7 24.08extra flathub system
… …default 24.2.7 24.08extra flathub user
… …eg-full 21.08 flathub system
… …penh264 2.1.0 2.0 flathub system
… …penh264 2.1.0 2.2.0 flathub system
… …penh264 2.4.1 2.4.1 flathub system
… …penh264 2.4.1 2.4.1 flathub user
… …latform 46 flathub system
… …latform 47 flathub system
… …latform 47 flathub user
… ….Breeze 6.2.4 3.22 flathub system
… ….Breeze 6.2.4 3.22 flathub user
… …latform 5.15-21.08 flathub system
… …latform 6.7 flathub system
… …denlive 24.08.3 stable flathub system
… ….CoBang 0.14.1 stable flathub system

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:40 am
by asqwerth
That's a long list. Do you really need all of them as flatpaks? You can find a fair number as normal packages in mx's own repos.

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:49 am
by paul1149
Half that stuff I don't know what it is.

Ok, I've uninstalled everything I think I can. And still upon Refresh Discover presents me with the six Refreshes.


$ flatpak list
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
TAP-plugins …reedesktop.LinuxAudio.Plugins.TAP 1.0.1 23.08 system
SWH …reedesktop.LinuxAudio.Plugins.swh 0.4.17 23.08 system
Freedesktop Platform org.freedesktop.Platform freedesktop-sdk-23.08.25 23.08 system
Mesa …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.2.5 23.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.2.5 23.08-extra system
Mesa …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.2.7 24.08 system
Mesa …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.2.7 24.08 user
Mesa (Extra) …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.2.7 24.08extra system
Mesa (Extra) …g.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default 24.2.7 24.08extra user
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 system
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.2.0 system
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.4.1 2.4.1 system
openh264 org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 2.4.1 2.4.1 user
GNOME Application Platform ve… org.gnome.Platform 46 system
GNOME Application Platform ve… org.gnome.Platform 47 system
GNOME Application Platform ve… org.gnome.Platform 47 user
Breeze GTK theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 6.2.4 3.22 system
Breeze GTK theme org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 6.2.4 3.22 user
KDE Application Platform org.kde.Platform 6.7 system

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:55 am
by dolphin_oracle
personally I would remove the flatpak discover backends. that will stop the constant updates I think. If you ever want to update your flatpaks, its easily done in mx-packageinstaller->flatpak tab.

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:59 am
by paul1149
Gee, that was simple! This is why I pay you guys so well. :)

Thanks much. Discover automatically went from Updates to Up to date.

I had begun to get cozy with flatpaks. I'm not sure that will happen again.

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:59 am
by dolphin_oracle
paul1149 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:59 am Gee, that was simple! This is why I pay you guys so well. :)

Thanks much. Discover automatically went from Updates to Up to date.

I had begun to get cozy with flatpaks. I'm not sure that will happen again.
flatpaks are great. its discover that sucks.

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:01 am
by paul1149
Ok then. That opens the possibilities back up. Some thing can only be gotten there, unless one knows how to compile.

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:55 am
by asqwerth
dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:59 am
paul1149 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:59 am Gee, that was simple! This is why I pay you guys so well. :)

Thanks much. Discover automatically went from Updates to Up to date.

I had begun to get cozy with flatpaks. I'm not sure that will happen again.
flatpaks are great. its discover that sucks.
Amen. One of the first things I do when I install the KDE version of MX is to install mx-updater [which is only default on MX-XFCE, I believe], and remove discover's update notifications. Can't recall if Synaptic is installed in MX-KDE but if not, I also install that. Then I only rely on MX-updater and sometimes terminal commands for updating.

I don't like the way Discover conflates all updates from repos, flatpaks and KDE store stuff together. Yes, if you are careful about reading everything, you will know that they are separate things from different sources, and updates for the latter 2 groups should be assessed separately. But not everyone does that.

Frankly It's not always needed to update the latter 2 groups of items, in my view.

Re: Something new? "Refresh" of system components

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:25 pm
by paul1149
I was surprised Discover was chosen over Synaptic for the official KDE release, since Synaptic affords more power under the hood, like freezing packages. But the interface is snazzy and I grew used to it. But this latest problem was too much.

There are a few things I prefer from xfce over kde, one being the console, which I have retained. Otherwise I have never looked back from KDE.