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Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:47 pm
by operadude
CharlesV wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:58 pm Your welcome, and no TB only processes email via their authentication, it does not use cookies for that. (And you should not be browsing in TB, either - although that can also be set to remove cookies on exit.)
Ahhh...Good to Know about TB :exclamation:

I think I'm good with TB, since I didn't even know you could browse in it!

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 4:27 am
by lars_the_bear
operadude wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:47 pm I think I'm good with TB, since I didn't even know you could browse in it!
Thunderbird displays HTML messages, and can follow links in those messages to show images, etc. I don't think it supports 'browsing', as such, but it's still acting as a web browser, of sorts. I would guess it's using much the same technology to fetch the remote content and render the HTML as Firefox does. I don't know if it supports cookies and, even if it does, I doubt it could share them with Firefox or another browser. The fact that it can fetch images makes Thunderbird vulnerable to 'spy pixel' tracking methods, so I usually turn this feature off.

BR, Lars.

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:19 am
by operadude
Ahhh...Good to know.

Yeah, I have the displaying image thing turned off.

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:20 am
by Aronticuz
The version of Thunderbird Mail I use responds exactly same as browsers with
CTRL + SHIFT + DELETE key combo

It allows you to delete stuff like cookies if you want.

You can also set the 'Bird to delete cookies automatically when it is closed - just like a browser in that respect.

Maybe even has parts of Firefox or Librewolf built in to it

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:39 am
by Aronticuz
Thunderbird does offer those options but I cannot guarantee that those options are completed as intended.
I sincerely hope they are tho
tbird.jpg

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:24 pm
by operadude
Aronticuz wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:20 am The version of Thunderbird Mail I use responds exactly same as browsers with
CTRL + SHIFT + DELETE key combo

It allows you to delete stuff like cookies if you want.

You can also set the 'Bird to delete cookies automatically when it is closed - just like a browser in that respect.

Maybe even has parts of Firefox or Librewolf built in to it
Thanks for that :exclamation:

I also see in T-Bird settings (General Tab), that there's an option for choosing the default search engine. I had already chosen DuckDuckGo. So, this is what I'm assuming @CharlesV meant when he mentioned the Browser in T-Bird. Anyway, I see now how to clear the cache and cookies, given your explanation!

:cool:

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:13 pm
by Aronticuz
operadude wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:24 pm ...
Thanks for that :exclamation:

I also see in T-Bird settings (General Tab), that there's an option for choosing the default search engine. I had already chosen DuckDuckGo. So, this is what I'm assuming @CharlesV meant when he mentioned the Browser in T-Bird. Anyway, I see now how to clear the cache and cookies, given your explanation!

:cool:
I have been helped many time in this forum.

I hope my post just goes to say thanks for all help I have received in the past.

Interim conclusion: the linux distro you choose is as important as the support network around it?

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:12 am
by operadude
Aronticuz wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:13 pm
operadude wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:24 pm ...
Thanks for that :exclamation:

I also see in T-Bird settings (General Tab), that there's an option for choosing the default search engine. I had already chosen DuckDuckGo. So, this is what I'm assuming @CharlesV meant when he mentioned the Browser in T-Bird. Anyway, I see now how to clear the cache and cookies, given your explanation!

:cool:
I have been helped many time in this forum.

I hope my post just goes to say thanks for all help I have received in the past.

Interim conclusion: the linux distro you choose is as important as the support network around it?
:number1:

Yeah, search my posts regarding my 3 self-imposed commandments regarding the Forum, in "Encrypted Snapshot Install", post #39 in that thread:

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p687368

And you'll get an idea about how hard I have fallen for MX-Linux :hug:

To quote the Talking Heads: "It's the Same as it Ever Was" :p

:cool:

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:38 pm
by user101
operadude wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:05 pm However, the post listed at the top warns that Midnight Lizard uses 3rd-party data collection.
If it were me, I would not use it.
operadude wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:05 pm So, my question is: How concerned should I be about any 3rd-party data collection?
I personally block as many scripts as practical, with https://noscript.net/ (and Ublock Origin) but it's ultimately a personal decision that only you can answer.

Re: Worry About 3rd Party Data Collection?

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:17 am
by FullScale4Me
Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:17 am As far as google knowing where my phone is and such..
Without the location being on your phone won't ring. A necessary convenience, eh?