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Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:50 pm**

I use a news reader called "newsboat".

Anyway I created a launcher, added an icon and have it run in terninal.

The way that Newsboat works is, when one opens a link, it opens it with another application, usually a browser, but I can stream to mpv. Or other program.

It did work, and very well.

But recently, I did a fresh install of mx21, keeping my home folder and settings.

And now, newsboat still runs from the launcher, but when I open a link, it won't open it, the applications fail to run.

The errors indicate that problems with permissions to access programs and other files.

It does work as a normal user from a terminal that I manually open.

So what changed? And why the problems when using it from a launcher?

Is there a way to give it permissions or something?

newsboat config

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auto-reload yes

confirm-exit yes

external-url-viewer "urlview"

bind-key j down
bind-key k up
bind-key j next articlelist
bind-key k prev articlelist
bind-key J next-feed articlelist
bind-key K prev-feed articlelist
bind-key G end
bind-key g home
bind-key d pagedown
bind-key u pageup
bind-key l open
bind-key h quit
bind-key a toggle-article-read
bind-key n next-unread
bind-key N prev-unread
bind-key D pb-download
bind-key U show-urls
bind-key x pb-delete
bind-key LEFT quit
bind-key RIGHT open


color listnormal cyan default dim
color listfocus cyan default 

color listnormal_unread color183 default  
color listfocus_unread color183 default bold

color info red black bold
color article white default 


# highlight feedlist "---.*---" color87 default bold
highlight feedlist "---.*---" blue default bold
# highlight feedlist "---.*---" [COLOR_OF_YOUR_CHOOSING] default bold
highlight feedlist ".*0/0.." default default invis

browser librewolf
macro , open-in-browser

# macro m set browser "/mnt/data/exe/usr/mpvd"; open-in-browser; set browser librewolf
macro m set browser "/usr/bin/mpv"; open-in-browser; set browser librewolf
macro a set browser " /mnt/data/exe/usr/audaciousd "; open-in-browser ; set browser librewolf

The config is mostly color settings
Ad the macros are to set it to open links in different apps.

Quick system Info

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System:    Kernel: 5.14.0-4mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.14.0-4mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
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Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:04 pm**

Maybe the ownership of the launcher was changed somehow from user to root or so ...

You can check that or try to create a new launcher to see what happens ...

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:06 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:04 pm Maybe the ownership of the launcher was changed somehow from user to root or so ...

You can check that or try to create a new launcher to see what happens ...

Where would I find those permissions? Is there a config file or maybe I can use chown or something?

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:09 pm**

Just right-click on it - Properties ..

Meanwhile, where is it? Panel? Desktop ?

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:10 pm**

I would just delete the launcher and created another one. Did you use the same username and is the file at the exact location as last time? If everything works beside that. Easy fix, by starting over. Delete/remove, than created again and it should work now.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:20 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:09 pm Just right-click on it - Properties ..

Meanwhile, where is it? Panel? Desktop ?

I created it in the whisker menu, and then add it to the pannel, but for right now I'm just doing wisker menu.

That gave me an idea, put a launcher on the desktop so that I could do as you say.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:37 pm**

gimcrack wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:10 pm I would just delete the launcher and created another one. Did you use the same username and is the file at the exact location as last time? If everything works beside that. Easy fix, by starting over. Delete/remove, than created again and it should work now.

Hmm, new launcher, same issue

I did use the same username, all files are at the same locations. Using the same bashrc and same paths
And I use full path file locations, and double checked them.

I also tried making one on the desktop and changing permissions to allow all, my username, a users group and everyone.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:43 pm**

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:48 pm**

It seems to me, the problem shouldn't be with the launcher exactly but either the which terminal that it runs or the settings that it uses when running the terminal.

Because the launcher launches the program just fine, terminal opens, but once the app is opened then the issues.

edit:

can a guy change the settings of the terminal that the launcher uses?

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:51 pm**

Any difference bw. commands in Terminal? Say, one with sudo, one without .. ( in terminal, only newsboat ? )

You can also put that command in "Session and Startup" - "App. Autostart" tab and see what happens if it starts automatically ..

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:58 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:51 pm Any difference bw. commands in Terminal? Say, one with sudo, one without ..

You can also put that command in "Session and Startup" - "App. Autostart tab" and see what happens if it starts automatically ..

I can run it in a normal terminal. Not with sudo, just with my regular access. and it all works good.
I hesitate to try it with sudo, because that could cause allot more problems if when applications start and write config files as root.

So currently, the access permissions are good to run everything as a normal non-root user.

I haven't fiddled with session start ups so I''m unfamiliar with it, but I could try.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:04 pm**

Yes, what you do is correct, go on with normal user.. I just wondered if there were any differences when using the command within the terminal...

Don't worry for the Autostart, it's almost the same: just click the + icon (on bottom-left corner) to add new , the rest is the same, as you already know.. You can try 1 boot then remove (just out of curiosity)..

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:10 pm**

So I opened the launcher and I opened a regular terminal with ctrl alt t and checked the terminal versions and they look identical xfce4-terminal and same version.

It's very strange that they would not work the same.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:20 pm**

What if you un-check "run in terminal" ? (Right-click - Properties - "Launcher" tab)

You can also (just to test) create a new user with "MX User Manager" , then login with that and try there.. (this is just for you said it was working via launcher previously.. so , there must be something else.. other than commands etc..)

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:45 pm**

I would like to see the actual error message when apps don't launch. I find it hard to believe there is a permission issue.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:54 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:20 pm What if you un-check "run in terminal" ? (Right-click - Properties - "Launcher" tab)

You can also (just to test) create a new user with "MX User Manager" , then login with that and try there.. (this is just for you said it was working via launcher previously.. so , there must be something else.. other than commands etc..)

I knew before i tried it, that not launching in terminal would not run at all as it is a terminal ap. But I tried it anyway with the expected results.

That with trying creating a new user.. that I did too.
Anyway, after configuring,

Running it in terminal in the new acount gave the same results as running it from a launcher, but this time the terminal window dd not close.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:45 pm I would like to see the actual error message when apps don't launch. I find it hard to believe there is a permission issue.

I couldn't copy them before because the launcher would close the term automatically upon exit, but since I got the same results elsewhere, maybe I can past them here.

One minute will switch users and open a browser.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:04 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:45 pm I would like to see the actual error message when apps don't launch. I find it hard to believe there is a permission issue.

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oading URLs from /home/test/.newsboat/urls...done.
Loading articles from cache...done.
[ytdl_hook] /usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory 
[ytdl_hook] youtube-dl failed: not found or not enough permissions 
Failed to recognize file format.


Exiting... (Errors when loading file)
[ytdl_hook] /usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory 
[ytdl_hook] youtube-dl failed: not found or not enough permissions 
Failed to recognize file format.

I has these and some other errors with mpv and stuff.
In order to see them before, I did a screen recording that I could pause. It was still hard to read.
Maybe I'll do a screen cap of that and post that too.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:14 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:45 pm I would like to see the actual error message when apps don't launch. I find it hard to believe there is a permission issue.

Screen cap of the video capture

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:17 pm**

do the mpv videos play?

it looks like the format of the strings being passed to start mpv are not valid.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:19 pm**

dolphin_oracle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:17 pm do the mpv videos play?

it looks like the format of the strings being passed to start mpv are not valid.

They do run from terminal in my regular account.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:27 pm**

The only confusing thing is they start normally when it's launched within terminal.

Maybe this works:

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sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:41 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:27 pm Maybe this works:
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sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python

I had my doubts about that symbolic link working.

But it did.

Thank you all for the help.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:45 pm**

I notice just now that there's no link for python here, too:

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$ ll /usr/bin/pytho*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    9 Nis  5  2021 /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.9
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5,3M Şub 28  2021 /usr/bin/python3.9

(On MX 21 ... but it's normal on MX 19.4)

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:50 pm**

So, after the command it shows

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$ ll /usr/bin/pytho*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   16 Nis 14 23:46 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/bin/python3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    9 Nis  5  2021 /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.9
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5,3M Şub 28  2021 /usr/bin/python3.9

In case you feel it's solved:

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:53 pm**

I will check that out.
Also I thought youtube-dl was a python 2 app.

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:01 pm**

It's also possible to install python2.7-minimal then link that one (in case needed).

Posted: **Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:06 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:01 pm It's also possible to install python2.7-minimal then link that one (in case needed).

If I don't have python 2, I will be installing it, lots of things still use it.
Plus I am trying to learn django which uses is python dependent.
If I had gone ahead and installed that, I might not have even had this issue.

Thanks, I did mark this as solved.

It is working after all.

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