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“better” is subjective, MX isn’t better than Debian, it’s different. Most people will talk about it being more user friendly out of the box, the MX tools, antiX live system, more and updated packages, the community.

For some and what they want to do, Debian may be better, for others MX may be better.

Every review is subjective... google your way to satisfaction.

MX is better for the following reasons: easy to install, semi rolling release, some software is newer, larger repositories with more software, tools and tweaks that makes it easy, no systemD, and not locked out of non free or open source software.

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:27 pm MX is better for the following reasons: easy to install, semi rolling release, some software is newer, larger repositories with more software, tools and tweaks that makes it easy, no systemD, and not locked out of non free or open source software.

systemd is installed but boot defaults to SysV unless you go to advanced options from the boot screen.

MX is Debian prêt-à-porter.

There are no absolute "better" reasons. Different users have different goals.

MX may be better than Debian, but IMO antiX is EVEN better.

and all this time i thought it was butter.

siamhie wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:24 pm

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:27 pm MX is better for the following reasons: easy to install, semi rolling release, some software is newer, larger repositories with more software, tools and tweaks that makes it easy, no systemD, and not locked out of non free or open source software.

systemd is installed but boot defaults to SysV unless you go to advanced options from the boot screen.

Wrong! SystemD is disabled by default.

For me, it's the ease with which I can:
1. Install and update stuff from the test repo.
2. Create a live snapshot.

I would like to say one thing or two that make Debian "better" than MX, but I have barely used Debian. My biggest trouble with MX at the time is combining DE's and WM's, but it's nothing a bit of experimenting won't solve (especially since MX 21 will possibly be out in a few weeks and I'll make a clean install).

seriously, great devs and great forum

thinkpadx wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:49 pm and all this time i thought it was butter.

Can't believe it's butter!

... Great Debian base, great OS, great devs and great forum ... it's enough to have the success.

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:11 pm

siamhie wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:24 pm

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:27 pm MX is better for the following reasons: easy to install, semi rolling release, some software is newer, larger repositories with more software, tools and tweaks that makes it easy, no systemD, and not locked out of non free or open source software.

systemd is installed but boot defaults to SysV unless you go to advanced options from the boot screen.

Wrong! SystemD is disabled by default.

Disabled does not mean it's not installed. One does not preclude the other.

And mx isn't semi-rolling. It's a fixed release distro just like the corresponding Debian stable release, its base distro. Having a potential upgrade path (for mx21} which requires changing repo sources, means it's not rolling. If it rolled everything to a new base without changing repos then it would be rolling (eg arch) or semi-rolling (pclinuxos).

Not to say upgrading mx to a new base is difficult; it isn't due to the ability to preserve /home when you install the new mx afresh over your old root partition , but I like to be accurate in descriptions and it isn't rolling.

Ugh... the world of 'better' where it doesn't belong at all, like is this music 'better' than that music...

It's a little cheeky to call MX (or Ubuntu or Mint) 'better' than Debian, Debian is the wellspring from which all of this goodness comes, it is the parent.. Under normal circumstances is a child 'better' than it's parent or just able to focus and excel at different individual things thanks to the underlying support of the parent..?

MX is a well-informed User-driven layer of common-sense convenience applied to Debian by a great unified and tireless team of people with a common goal, that's how I see it anyway..

TOOLS.

MX comes as a complete package as a Desktop operating system. Debian is for those wanting to collect the pieces themselves. AND tools.

Yep, if you like that commonsense layer, as @AVLinux calls it, choose mx.

If you want to do it all yourself, choose Debian. You might consider all the mx layers bloat.

I think figueroa hit it.

Debian is a universal operating system, a do-it-yourself kit you can assemble into just about anything.
Many people (like me) don't have the time and expertise to configure it all to the level that the MX developers and community have.

MX gives a wonderful sensible set of defaults and tools.
The community on this forum and the active collaboration of the developers sets MX above many other distros.
Based on Debian stable , it is rock solid. But you have all the updated packages on top of that.

Adrian wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:41 pm

thinkpadx wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:49 pm and all this time i thought it was butter.

Can't believe it's butter!

ZOMG, I thought it was butter, too!

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!™

MX is better because I have my fingers in the pie!

Oh great... not gonna find hairs in there too, am I?

Bamber wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:27 pm MX is Debian prêt-à-porter.

Exactly.

On my primary computer I run debian xfce as a virtual machine. On an older machine I run MX from a USB stick. I don't see much difference. The main thing I want from a linux distribution is easy access to the debian repository. Several years ago debian dismissed those debian-live developers who were interested in running from USB, to focus exclusively on installation media.

Booting MX from a USB2 stick is faster than booting the old Windows 7 system, and avoids the risk and complications of dual booting.

(Somewhat off topic: on my oldest hardware I run antix from a stick. Not as handy as MX, but less demanding of the hardware, and better resource monitors)

I view Debian as being akin to a kit car where-as MX is the finished product.

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:11 pm

siamhie wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:24 pm

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 3:27 pm MX is better for the following reasons: easy to install, semi rolling release, some software is newer, larger repositories with more software, tools and tweaks that makes it easy, no systemD, and not locked out of non free or open source software.

systemd is installed but boot defaults to SysV unless you go to advanced options from the boot screen.

Wrong! SystemD is disabled by default.

@siamhie is correct.

debian does offer non-free versions so it makes debian more doable as a plus. you have to dig around on their site. they have the codecs etc built into these iso's. that is what i used when i used debian before settling into MX. they offer all the various desktops under this profile too.

i have to say that recently debian finally straightened out their forums from a lot of the arrogance and knucklehead holier than thou's there too. so the forums are much more approachable now.

however i am a huge MX fan. I am glad i gave it a shot under 18 and then 19.

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:55 pm

Mauser wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:11 pm

siamhie wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:24 pm

systemd is installed but boot defaults to SysV unless you go to advanced options from the boot screen.

Wrong! SystemD is disabled by default.

@siamhie is correct.

You are WRONG!

If all the kids would just sit down and eat their bananas now. It is break time!