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Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:31 am
by VCR58
I voted for Discover. However Synaptic should be installed as default as well. I always install Synaptic as a backup. Apt notifier is a more pleasing indicator of updates but that is all IMO.
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:36 am
by Adrian
I will consider mind changes, I see @Bamber and @Antedeluvian (although he didn't mention the direction of the change)
Also, I should have made it clear from the start, this is not a binding vote, especially if it ends with a couple of votes difference, I just want to see what people think and be able to make a more informed decision.
As is stands now it's 13/14 or even 14/13 (if Antedeluvian changed his mind towards Discover)
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:44 am
by Adrian
I voted for Discover. However Synaptic should be installed as default as well.
It's a reasonable suggestion, however some people complained about "bloat" and while I don't usually pay attention to that, it's a bit much and even confusing to have Discover, Synaptic, MX Packageinstaller, not to mention apt, apt-get, aptitude to manage packages. It's fine to add whatever you prefer, but since the ISO is already around 2.6GB I need to draw the line at some point so it should be either Discover or Synaptic in my opinion.
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:41 am
by VCR58
Adrian wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:44 am
It's a reasonable suggestion, however some people complained about "bloat" and while I don't usually pay attention to that, it's a bit much and even confusing to have Discover, Synaptic, MX Packageinstaller, not to mention apt, apt-get, aptitude to manage packages. It's fine to add whatever you prefer, but since the ISO is already around 2.6GB I need to draw the line at some point so it should be either Discover or Synaptic in my opinion.
I forgot about MX Packageinstaller (how could I forget MX Package installer!?). I guess I would be OK without Synaptic. If needed I can always install it later.
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:14 am
by junoluna
Adrian wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:36 am
I will consider mind changes, I see @Bamber and @Antedeluvian (although he didn't mention the direction of the change)
Also, I should have made it clear from the start, this is not a binding vote, especially if it ends with a couple of votes difference, I just want to see what people think and be able to make a more informed decision.
As is stands now it's 13/14 or even 14/13 (if Antedeluvian changed his mind towards Discover)
thanks
FYI: i also mind-changed in post 16 ...quite sure about it now .....no flip plopping since then
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:26 am
by SwampRabbit
I voted for Discover simply because it is more new user friendly in some respects compared to Synaptic and MXPI still exists.
Experienced users can always install whatever they want / feel more comfortable with.
I would be cool if the Discover notifications in system tray could be turned off (as asqwerth stated) so apt-notifier could be used, but maybe that's just complicating things.
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:02 pm
by Richard
asqwerth wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:42 pm
Richard wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:04 pm
Seems kind of a shame to make the first MX-KDE release missing its complete complement of apps. Just sayin'.
Looking forward to trying MX with KDE-5, however configured.
Not the first. Did you completely miss mx19 KDE?
Yes and no. I just preferred Xfce so I basically ignored everything about KDE.
KDE was offered with the AHS in Aug, 2020 but I had no need of that.
I didn't perceive AHS as a mainstream release, but that's my error.
At this time, an MX KDE release seems, to me, to be worth a trial.
There's always apt-get if I want to try anything missing.
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:24 pm
by baldyeti
Since this is about what's included by default I voted for Discover (I don't use it much but it is the KDE default and getting better), with MXPI only. Adding apt-notifier and synaptic would mean four programs in total, rather bloated and confusing for newbies. Of course people can always install what they prefer / are used to later on. IOW: the beta has this right already ;-)
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:18 pm
by markol
I know it's probably too late to implement, but user could get an option to select a default package manager to be installed?
Re: Program selection poll
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:34 pm
by Adrian
markol wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:18 pm
I know it's probably too late to implement, but user could get an option to select a default package manager to be installed?
There' a choice to do that after you install you can remove and install whatever programs you want...