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Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:39 pm**

I'm new to MX and I'm running 18.3 on an old HP dual core i5 laptop with 8 gigs of ram. It is slow to boot (Windows 95 slow) but everything works well and the only problem I have is lack of knowledge. I see everyone posting about 19.1 and I'm curious if I should upgrade. I haven't started researching on how to upgrade, just wanted to know if it would be worth it.

Thanks,
tenmm57

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:48 pm**

I have an Asus with an i5 and 4gb of RAM, it boots MX-18.3 pretty quickly, though a few seconds slower than an i7 with 16gb.

Do you have an SSD or an HDD?

19.1 will probably not speed up your boot that much, if at all.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:49 pm**

The Blog post may help you decide.

https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-19-1-now-available/

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:56 pm**

Yes, 19.1 is the latest. If you have no need to stay with 18.3 I would upgrade. That processor and RAM will be fine for 19.1. I run it on a lot less. But you should investigate an SSD drive to replace your old spinning hard drive.

You can run it from a LiveUSB to check that it runs good on your hardware.

Seaken64

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:48 pm**

jeffreyC wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:48 pm I have an Asus with an i5 and 4gb of RAM, it boots MX-18.3 pretty quickly, though a few seconds slower than an i7 with 16gb.

Do you have an SSD or an HDD?

19.1 will probably not speed up your boot that much, if at all.

jeffreyC, I have a HDD, I use this laptop just to try out different Linux distros. To date MX Linux is my second favorite, I use Linux Mint/Windows 10 on my work laptop.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:15 pm**

tenmm57 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:39 pm I'm new to MX and I'm running 18.3 on an old HP dual core i5 laptop with 8 gigs of ram. It is slow to boot (Windows 95 slow) ....
Thanks,
tenmm57

How slow is slow? Just to make sure we're on the same page.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:37 pm**

I have an old (circa 2010) HP Pavilion laptop with a first generation Core 15 dual core CPU, a 500GB HDD and 4GB of RAM and MX-19 (19.1 now after the recent upgrades) runs quite well on it as long as I don't run a lot of virtual machines due to its RAM limitations. I could even do that if I had 8GB which is the maximum it can address.

Compared to my octacore desktop with 16GB RAM and an SSD it's slow, but compared to my 32-bit netbook with a 1.6GHz single core Atom CPU and 2GB RAM it's fast. So it depends on what you're comparing it to and what you're used to using. I just tell myself that I'm spoiled by how fast my "new" (all the components are actually several years old except for the SSDs, case and PSU but I built it in November) desktop is. The HP is perfectly fine even as a daily driver computer though. I'd used it every day for months prior to putting the desktop together and was very happy with it. (Even the netbook can run MX. You just can't be in too much of a hurry is all. It's faster with Fluxbox instead of Xfce though.)

If you're coming from a newer laptop with a later-generation processor and faster/more RAM those older machines are going to feel slow by comparison but they are what they are, and they're still perfectly usable just the same. You just can't expect them to boot to your desktop in a few seconds.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:40 pm**

How slow is slow? Just to make sure we're on the same page.
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OK, I'll admit I'm spoiled. My work laptop will boot into Linux Mint in about 15 seconds and about the same booting into Windows. It takes my MX linux laptop about 1 minute 10 seconds give or take a few seconds. That's really not a long time, it just seems like forever.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:01 pm**

You should post the output of

inxi - F

For both machines in this thread so a comparison of hardware can be made. Also it'll help establish if 1.1 to 1.2 mins boot up is reasonable for your home machine.

Are we talking bootup to login screen, or are you including the time to log in to the desktop?

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:09 pm**

Booting from an SSD on the work laptop can make it that much faster...

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:24 pm**

asqwerth wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:01 pm You should post the output of

inxi - F

For both machines in this thread so a comparison of hardware can be made. Also it'll help establish if 1.1 to 1.2 mins boot up is reasonable for your home machine.

Are we talking bootup to login screen, or are you including the time to log in to the desktop?

That is time to desktop. I've never used inxi before and need to do some reading before I can give you the information, sorry.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:44 pm**

tenmm57 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:40 pm How slow is slow? Just to make sure we're on the same page.

OK, I'll admit I'm spoiled. My work laptop will boot into Linux Mint in about 15 seconds and about the same booting into Windows. It takes my MX linux laptop about 1 minute 10 seconds give or take a few seconds. That's really not a long time, it just seems like forever.
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Your work laptop probably has an SSD.

That is about the boot speed difference I have between an HDD and an SSD.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:19 pm**

I run MX-19.1 on this old relic and it's fast and I don't care about boot times.

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mx@mx:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 
           Distro: MX-19.1_x64 patito feo February 15  2020 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: MDGs product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Intel model: DG33BU v: AAD79951-407 serial: <filter> BIOS: Intel 
           v: DPP3510J.86A.0572.2009.0715.2346 date: 07/15/2009 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium Dual E2220 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core Merom rev: D 
           L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 9600 
           Speed: 1398 MHz min/max: 1200/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1569 2: 1562 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel resolution: 1024x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel G33 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 20e0 bus ID: 00:19.0 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 74.53 GiB used: 5.58 GiB (7.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD800AAJS-60M0A0 size: 74.53 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 70.86 GiB used: 5.58 GiB (7.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 173 Uptime: 14h 29m Memory: 3.78 GiB used: 719.7 MiB (18.6%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 inxi: 3.0.36 
mx@mx:~
$

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:38 am**

This is my old HP laptop, I upgraded to 19.1.

System: Host: mx Kernel: 5.4.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2
Distro: MX-19.1_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15 2019
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook v: 0588120002242B10000020100 serial:
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 163D v: 65.38 serial:
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.29 date: 11/07/2011
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 66.0 Wh condition: 71.2/71.2 Wh (100%)
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 460 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
L2 cache: 3072 KiB
Speed: 1463 MHz min/max: 1199/2534 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1437 2: 1463 3: 1463
4: 1463
Graphics: Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
Device-2: AMD Robson CE [Radeon HD 6370M/7370M] driver: N/A
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel resolution: 1600x900~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 19.3.3
Audio: Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: AMD Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series]
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-3-amd64
Network: Device-1: Intel Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 [Kilmer Peak] driver: iwlwifi
IF: wlan0 state: up mac:
Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: down mac:
Device-3: Intel type: USB driver: i2400m_usb
IF: wmx0 state: down mac:
Drives: Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 5.66 GiB (0.9%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9640320AS size: 596.17 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 583.81 GiB used: 5.66 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info: Processes: 197 Uptime: 14m Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 811.4 MiB (10.5%) Shell: bash
inxi: 3.0.36

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:50 am**

not sure what difference it makes but was under the impression that the ahs version you have installed was specifically created for newer hardware rather than machines of your vintage

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:04 am**

This is my work laptop. I timed both laptops from power on to desktop, the time includes typing in the password. Work laptop - 17 seconds, old HP laptop 1 minute 12 seconds.

System:
Host: tenmm61 Kernel: 5.3.0-40-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia
Machine:
Type: Convertible System: HP product: HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-cn0xxx
v: Type1ProductConfigId serial:
Mobo: HP model: 8483 v: 70.26 serial: UEFI: Insyde v: F.13
date: 06/04/2018
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.3 Wh condition: 55.3/55.3 Wh (100%)
CPU:
Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-8250U bits: 64 type: MT MCP
L2 cache: 6144 KiB
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 400/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 801 2: 800
3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 801 7: 800 8: 800
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2)
v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.8
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-40-generic
Network:
Device-1: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi
IF: wlo1 state: up mac:
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 32.87 GiB (13.8%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: SK Hynix model: PC401 HFS256GD9TNG-62A0A
size: 238.47 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 63.85 GiB used: 32.81 GiB (51.4%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 238 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.52 GiB used: 592.6 MiB (7.7%)
Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:16 am**

junoluna wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:50 am not sure what difference it makes but was under the impression that the ahs version you have installed was specifically created for newer hardware rather than machines of your vintage

That's funny you mentioned that, I have the CPU temp displayed on the panel on my Linux Mint machine. I wanted to do the same on MX Linux but couldn't find it listed and just assume that the laptop didn't have that feature. Then the CPU temp shows up on inxi.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:26 am**

tenmm57 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:38 am This is my old HP laptop, I upgraded to 19.1.

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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 5.4.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 
           Distro: MX-19.1_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15  2019 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook v: 0588120002242B10000020100 serial: 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 163D v: 65.38 serial: 
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.29 date: 11/07/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 66.0 Wh condition: 71.2/71.2 Wh (100%) 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 460 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 1463 MHz min/max: 1199/2534 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1437 2: 1463 3: 1463 
           4: 1463 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Device-2: AMD Robson CE [Radeon HD 6370M/7370M] driver: N/A 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel resolution: 1600x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 19.3.3 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: AMD Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] 
           driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-3-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Centrino Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250 [Kilmer Peak] driver: iwlwifi 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac:  
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 
           Device-3: Intel type: USB driver: i2400m_usb 
           IF: wmx0 state: down mac: 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 5.66 GiB (0.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9640320AS size: 596.17 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 583.81 GiB used: 5.66 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 197 Uptime: 14m Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 811.4 MiB (10.5%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.36

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:27 am**

Just making it easier for folks here to see your info:

tenmm57 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:04 am This is my work laptop. I timed both laptops from power on to desktop, the time includes typing in the password. Work laptop - 17 seconds, old HP laptop 1 minute 12 seconds.

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System:
  Host: tenmm61 Kernel: 5.3.0-40-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
Machine:
  Type: Convertible System: HP product: HP ENVY x360 Convertible 15m-cn0xxx 
  v: Type1ProductConfigId serial: 
  Mobo: HP model: 8483 v: 70.26 serial:  UEFI: Insyde v: F.13 
  date: 06/04/2018 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.3 Wh condition: 55.3/55.3 Wh (100%) 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-8250U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 400/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 801 2: 800 
  3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 801 7: 800 8: 800 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.8 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-40-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi 
  IF: wlo1 state: up mac: 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 32.87 GiB (13.8%) 
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: SK Hynix model: PC401 HFS256GD9TNG-62A0A 
  size: 238.47 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 63.85 GiB used: 32.81 GiB (51.4%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 238 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.52 GiB used: 592.6 MiB (7.7%) 
  Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.32

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:39 am**

Thanks Buck, I didn't know.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:43 am**

Your office laptop is really new, has nvme SSD and a quad core Intel i5 chip. Its bootup to desktop speed is not a surprise.

The only question is whether your home machine's bootup to desktop timing is normal for that level of hardware and age. I can't help you there.

But junoluna is right that the ahs iso is really not meant for old machines. It comes with a potentially too-new kernel that may no longer work well with old hardware. I'm not sure, but it's possible that some old drivers that work better with your old hardware may have phased out of the latest kernels as they add newer drivers?

And the ahs repo is enabled by default to install the latest graphics-related packages which you surely will not need. As that repo continues to roll updates, who knows if that will slow your machine even more.

Try downloading the standard non-ahs 19.1 iso and testing it live on your old machine. That will show you how kernel 4.19 runs on your home computer. If it runs better, good.

You might wish to wait for experts to see if you can revert to normal graphics-related packages without needing a reinstall of 19.1.

Certainly you can install an older but Long Term Support kernel like 4.19 or the antiX-4.9 on your current 19.1 installation and make that the default boot on your bootloader . But if you install older kernels but keep the ahs repo enabled, I'm not sure if that will mess anything up.

Wait for Stevo and more technical people to wake up and give their comments on this thread.

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Stevo wrote:

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:38 am**

tenmm57 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:16 am That's funny you mentioned that, I have the CPU temp displayed on the panel on my Linux Mint machine. I wanted to do the same on MX Linux but couldn't find it listed and just assume that the laptop didn't have that feature. Then the CPU temp shows up on inxi.

Yes, Inxi is great. Btw, check out different conky themes, with conky manager, some of them shows temperatures also.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:46 am**

junoluna wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:50 am not sure what difference it makes but was under the impression that the ahs version you have installed was specifically created for newer hardware rather than machines of your vintage

That is correct; the AHS version will offer no benefit to the OPs machine, and might cause problems.

I would suggest reinstalling with the standard x64 release, then using the Package Installer to install the 4.9 kernel, which often is better for older hardware.

Chris

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:46 am**

But the old laptop which has an HDD will still boot slower that the new laptop which has an SSD.

If you want the old laptop to boot faster put an SSD in it. It is really that simple.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:04 am**

Perhaps this will help.

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03577599

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:41 pm**

Thanks Bartman, I'm not spending anymore money on this laptop. I replaced the Battery and took it from 6 gigs of ram to 8 gigs (I think that's the max). I wanted something I could explore linux distros and see if I liked one more than Linux Mint. I have tried a few and I really like MX linux, I'm going to use it for a while.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:02 pm**

junoluna wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:50 am not sure what difference it makes but was under the impression that the ahs version you have installed was specifically created for newer hardware rather than machines of your vintage

Yes, but it should also be backwards-compatible with older hardware. I really haven't seen any regressions with it on older hardware; after all, many Debian users are running Debian testing and Sid on old hardware, too, as well as Ubuntu users and those of many other distros.
Look, Ubuntu just released 18.04.4 with a 5.3 kernel and their hwe stack for all users, basically the same thing: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/202 ... ernel-5-3/

I want to nip this false impression in the bud, please. Basically:

Some users with really new hardware require the ahs ISO to even boot up the Live session to the GUI.

Users with 2018 and older hardware will be OK with standard MX 19, but also might benefit from advances in the kernel and video drivers in the ahs, or see no difference at all. As always, there may also be rare regressions, but hopefully the improvements outnumber those.

So it's no big disaster if you installed the ahs version without knowing what it was. Security-minded folks may wish to switch to the 4.19 Buster kernel to get Debian's long term security updates for it, if it supports their hardware--remember, the 4.19 kernel doesn't support much 2019-2020 hardware.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:37 pm**

tenmm57 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:41 pm Thanks Bartman, I'm not spending anymore money on this laptop. I replaced the Battery and took it from 6 gigs of ram to 8 gigs (I think that's the max). I wanted something I could explore linux distros and see if I liked one more than Linux Mint. I have tried a few and I really like MX linux, I'm going to use it for a while.

You're welcome.

All of my computers are old Windows XP computers that I upgraded with free spare parts and they run most Linux distros well.

I think the computer you have should have no problems running MX-19 / 19.1 as the Xfce user interface is lightweight and requires minimal resources.

The computer specs I posted runs MX-19.1 real well and and I have zero complaints.

As the motto goes Linux gives new life to old computers.

The important thing is to have fun and enjoy your Linux.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:49 pm**

Stevo wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:02 pm
I want to nip this false impression in the bud, please. Basically:

Some users with really new hardware require the ahs ISO to even boot up the Live session to the GUI.

thanks for the clarification stevo..

understood

Posted: **Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:20 am**

Tested a live stick of MX-19.1_ahs_x64.iso on AMD Carrizo-Excavator A8-7680. It blanked out or artifacted after Grub on normal and safe video attempts. Had the expected good live performance after this though:

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System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 5.4.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: quiet splasht nosplash amdgpu.dc=0 
           Distro: MX-19.1_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15  2019 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A8-7680 Radeon R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G bits: 64

Had also needed a similar boot modification (=1) on a Ryzen Athlon 200GE but I no longer have access to that machine.
I also wanted to see if something as small as the latest EasyOS (5.4.10 kernel) would be an appropriate live system for an old media card. Slow to initialize but speedier once on the desktop than even antiX on Intel E-7500 dual core with just 2 GB 1066 DDR3. Moved it to the Carrizo 7680 and the EasyOS screen got stuck soon after loading started. There was only one option on EasyOS where I could try amdgpu.dc=0 but the screen wouldn't go past "Waiting to load kernel video drivers 1 amd". Even commandline no x ended up on a blank screen. That this live boot issue manifests after Grub with all Stretch and Buster MX iso sticks or disks is curious. Only for Carrizo and Raven Ridge though. Intel Core2Duo liked it very well enough.

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System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 5.4.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: quiet splasht nosplash 
           Distro: MX-19.1_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15  2019 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E7500 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn

Posted: **Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:08 pm**

Some users asked about getting CPU temperatures to show on the XFCE panel. The usual method is to just add the Sensor panel plugin to the panel, since it's already installed, and then configure its properties.

Other options exist through the Hardware Monitor panel plugin, also already installed, or by installing the xfce4-wmdock-plugin and running wmtemp so it shows up in that plugin.

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