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Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:07 pm**

This can be easily done in MXPI from the test repo tab by unchecking the box to hide library packages, and then searching for "xfce", and marking all upgradeable packages.

The whiskermenu and thunar updates don't have to be updated along with the rest, but I'd like to push them to main along with the rest, if possible, so please test those, too.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:10 pm**

Stevo wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:07 pm This can be easily done in MXPI from the test repo tab by unchecking the box to hide library packages, and then searching for "xfce", and marking all upgradeable packages.

The whiskermenu and thunar updates don't have to be updated along with the rest, but I'd like to push them to main along with the rest, if possible, so please test those, too.

Is there a change log? I assume these are minor bugfixes and tweaks.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:18 pm**

Release notes for 4.14.2
========================
- Update thumbnail when file changes (Bug #14919)
- Add DnD support for application/octet-stream (Bug #14919)
- windowlist: Fix ellipsizing (Bug #15851)
- Add padding to custom actions without icon (Bug #14628)
- Fix yet another rubber band DnD issue (Bug #16046)
- Reintroduce workaround for Bug #11283
- Show file names in tooltips (Bug #15899)
- fallback style: Highlight selected icons (Bug #15866)
- Translation Updates: Albanian, Amharic, Arabic, Armenian (Armenia),
Asturian, Basque, Belarusian, Bulgarian, Catalan, Chinese (China),
Chinese (Hong Kong), Chinese (Taiwan), Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch,
English (Australia), English (Canada), English (United Kingdom),
Estonian, Finnish, French, Galician, Georgian, German, Greek, Hebrew,
Hungarian, Icelandic, Indonesian, Interlingue, Italian, Japanese,
Kazakh, Korean, Lithuanian, Malay, Norwegian Bokmål, Norwegian Nynorsk,
Occitan (post 1500), Persian (Iran), Polish, Portuguese, Portuguese
(Brazil), Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish,
Swedish, Thai, Turkish, Uighur, Ukrainian, Uzbek

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:26 pm**

I think you have to go back to XFCE's source pages to get those. I got most of these from upstream Debian, and they just list Debian packaging-related things like:

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exo (0.12.11-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  [ Unit 193 ]
  * d/watch: Update for upstream's move to mirrorbit.

  [ Yves-Alexis Perez ]
  * d/control: update standards version to 4.4.1
  * New upstream version 0.12.11
  * d/control: update dh compat level to 12
  * d/control: bump gtk3 b-dep to 3.22

 -- Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>  Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:13:55 +0100

Since I jumped ahead of Debian for whiskermenu, and our devs take a special interest in that package, I did make a little extra effort to list the changes since 2.3.5 in my debian/changelog:

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2.4.2
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- Fix crash when selecting desktop action. (bug #16445)
- Translation updates: Chinese (China), Croatian, Georgian.

2.4.1
=====
- Fix narrow iconview columns.
- Fix bad hyphenation by increasing iconview column width.
- Translation updates: Finnish, Serbian.

2.4.0
=====
- Add option to show as icons. (bug #15675)
- Add hiding menu items. (bug #14816)
- Add searching keywords of menu items. (bug #15047)
- Add tooltip to profile picture for editing profile. (bug #15501)
- Adjust wording of switch user command. (bug #15398)
- Add icons to context menu.
- New default layout.
- Make panel button square only if single row and title hidden.
- Rearrange settings dialog.
- Redesign session confirmation dialogs.
- Refactor code.
- Rewrite menu load to match GarconGtkMenu.
- Switch categories with keyboard focus if hover enabled.
- Use custom icon renderer.
- Use link time optimization if available.
- Increase C++ version.
- Translation updates: Bulgarian, Catalan, Chinese (Taiwan), Czech,
  Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, Galician, Georgian, German, Greek,
  Icelandic, Indonesian, Interlingue, Italian, Japanese, Lithuanian,
  Malay, Nepali, Norwegian Bokmål, Polish, Portuguese,
  Portuguese (Brazil), Slovak, Spanish, Turkish.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:05 pm**

Thanks for your info.

MX-19.1 has just been released and looks really sharp. Give people a few days to play with it. Then when they know the system a little bit better they might try packages from test. I have too little experience with MX 19 and Xfce 4.14 to identify specific behavior, but that will change.

It looks like updates aren't critical, more like fit and finish.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:10 pm**

Stevo wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:07 pm This can be easily done in MXPI from the test repo tab by unchecking the box to hide library packages, and then searching for "xfce", and marking all upgradeable packages.

The whiskermenu and thunar updates don't have to be updated along with the rest, but I'd like to push them to main along with the rest, if possible, so please test those, too.

FI: Does not work here, via MXPI:

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Atteint :1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease
Atteint :2 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster InRelease
Atteint :3 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
Réception de :4 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/testrepo buster InRelease [4 966 B]
Atteint :5 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
Réception de :6 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/testrepo buster/test i386 Packages [397 kB]
Réception de :7 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/testrepo buster/test amd64 Packages [404 kB]
Réception de :8 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/testrepo buster/test i386 Contents (deb) [4 265 kB]
Réception de :9 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/testrepo buster/test amd64 Contents (deb) [4 875 kB]
9 945 ko réceptionnés en 12s (802 ko/s)
Lecture des listes de paquets…
Lecture des listes de paquets…
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances…
Lecture des informations d'état…
libexo-1-0 est déjà la version la plus récente (0.12.8-0mx19+1).
libexo-1-0 passé en « installé manuellement ».
libexo-2-0 est déjà la version la plus récente (0.12.8-0mx19+1).
libexo-2-0 passé en « installé manuellement ».
libxfce4ui-1-0 est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.1-0mx19+1).
libxfce4ui-2-0 est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.1-0mx19+1).
libxfce4ui-common est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.1-0mx19+1).
thunar est déjà la version la plus récente (1.8.11-0mx19+1).
xfce4-session est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.0-0mx19+1).
xfce4-settings est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.1-1~mx19+1).
xfdesktop4 est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.1-0mx19+1).
xfdesktop4-data est déjà la version la plus récente (4.14.1-0mx19+1).
xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin est déjà la version la plus récente (2.4.1-0.1~mx19+1).
0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 8 non mis à jour.
Atteint :1 http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo buster InRelease
Atteint :2 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease
Atteint :3 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
Atteint :4 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
Lecture des listes de paquets…

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:22 pm**

Installed all xfce from test repo except docbarx . So far no issues.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:32 pm**

The updates don't appear to have made it to that French mirror yet: http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributi ... ol/test/x/

as compared to this one: http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/pool/test/x/

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:42 pm**

got em, thanks.

for those wondering, the USA-UT repo tends to update the fastest.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:53 pm**

Stevo wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:32 pm The updates don't appear to have made it to that French mirror yet: http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributi ... ol/test/x/

as compared to this one: http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/pool/test/x/

... You are right, the: http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo was OK
Thank you Stevo.
Thanks for the info too Dolphin-Oracle.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:54 pm**

I was hoping they updated the xfce compositor but it still won't work with my grahpics:

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System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 5.4.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: persist_all tz=America/Chicago noswap nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19.1_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: HP product: HP Desktop M01-F0xxx v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 8643 v: SMVB serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.03 
           date: 08/05/2019 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics bits: 64 
           type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ family: 17 (23) model-id: 18 (24) stepping: 1 
           microcode: 8108109 L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 59090 
           Speed: 1398 MHz min/max: 1400/3700 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1271 
           2: 1287 3: 1780 4: 1276 5: 1371 6: 1355 7: 1629 8: 1379 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Picasso vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel 
           bus ID: 07:00.0 chip ID: 1002:15d8 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           compositor: compton v: 0.1~beta2+20150922 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.35.0 5.4.0-3-amd64 LLVM 9.0.1) v: 4.5 Mesa 19.3.3 
           direct render: Yes

I have to use compton or no compositor.

Posted: **Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:24 pm**

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Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:36 am**

Installed fine, no issues detected yet.

Thunar bug "Scrolling context menu" unfortunately still there

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2020 6:21 am**

Dennis-TW wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:36 am Installed fine, no issues detected yet.

Thunar bug "Scrolling context menu" unfortunately still there

That's an Xfce 6.14 issue, lack of a responsive right-click action menu in Thunar. You get the same behavior in Xubuntu 19.10.

Edit: it may be a GTK3 theme issue though, rather than a Thunar issue. I don't know.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:25 pm**

FYI I've been using it since yesterday morning and there were no show-stoppers or odd behavior all day and evening long.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:36 pm**

Quick System Info also now reports XFCE 4.14.2. I'll have Tim move the packages to main, since they seem cromulent.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm**

Learned a new word, cromulent. I did not know you were a linguistic polymath.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:16 pm**

A certain science podcast I subscribe to, the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe, uses the word in every so often in a humorous fashion, along with "embiggen" and "quatloos."

I'd have to turn in my nerd badge if I didn't know what those meant.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:10 pm**

richb wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 pm Learned a new word, cromulent. I did not know you were a linguistic polymath.

He is also an allasomorph with allasotonic Qualities!

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:57 pm**

Old Man Coyote (in the photo, Old Woman Coyote, though gender-shifting was also one of their powers, just like Bugs Bunny) was a shapeshifter, according to Native American lore.

So far, the little coyote pack that knows me hasn't lost any members for over a year, though the male was scarce for the past week, and just showed back up with a limp. I noticed the two females carrying off food and returning 5-10 minutes later, so they could have been helping him to get through an injury.

This wildlife cam video was on social media a week or so ago--apparently coyotes can be happy to join forces with badgers,though the male in the pack goes after any raccoons that he spots--the females are more live and let live with the trash pandas, AFAICT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bICTWNRrGE

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:20 pm**

Wow, what a geek vocabulary lesson! But I think I like "trash pandas" the most!

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:10 pm**

I have a slight delay starting whiskermenu, maybe because of the new "views".

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