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Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:05 pm
by andyprough
mklym wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:14 pmIf you had PCDOS installed and wanted to install windoze on top, when you ran the installer you were greeted with error massages saying that if you did not remove pcdos and install msdos before installing windows your machine would suffer major damage. PCDOS died very quickly, even though you could ignore the error messages and install the 'doze os without any damage. Some people call that good business sense, I call it fear mongering.
That's pretty low-level FUD compared to other stuff from that day and age. For years there was FUD going around that different systems or software would cause your monitor to blow up in your face and kill you, or spin a CD so fast that it would break into shrapnel which would fly out of the computer and injure you. MS was just running a typical troll operation for their time, looking to get a leg up on the competition.

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:08 pm
by ChrisUK
mklym wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:43 pm [...]
Just like being forced into quitting smoking cold-turkey after ~45yrs, takes some work, but do-able. Day 4 and I have not killed anyone, yet. :eek:
I quit after 44 years (no choice COPD) - I just stopped May 2012, not even thought about smoking again since.

This doesn't work for everyone, but I read this book twice before deciding to stop... it changed the way that I thought about many things, not just smoking.

Incidentally, the writer of the book, Allen Carr, died of Lung Cancer after quitting (and helping others to quit) for years. He had to spend time amongst heavy smokers to talk and help them to stop - the passive smoking he endured probably played a part in his death. If there's a God he certainly has a sense of irony.

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:52 pm
by mklym
Thanks ChrisUK. I will check out the book you linked to.

If it was a medical issue then I would have no problem quitting. After smoking for over 45 years, I have no problems breathing. I was working as a 60yr old laborer on a torch-on roofing crew and in a year and a half I watched close to 20 young guys come and go as they couldn't handle the work. I still work like a 30-35 yr old. Not bragging.

I do appreciate the info and link Chris. Congrats on quitting smoking. I am going to kill.........another cup of coffee. :D

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:07 pm
by gimbleguy
I think it's great that linux is starting to have a variety of anti virus software. I hope there will be many more to choose from in the future.

I hope Windows Defender will be good. I'd be happy to test it when it comes out

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:19 pm
by mklym
:)

Ya'll have a great day.

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:06 pm
by handy
On my Win7 gaming installs I have no anti-virus software installed (the free one's are self confessed trackers! - I don't know how "clean" Clam Windows is?) & Defender is not run (nor are any of the MS updates).

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:30 pm
by Stevo
gimbleguy wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:07 pm I think it's great that linux is starting to have a variety of anti virus software. I hope there will be many more to choose from in the future.

I hope Windows Defender will be good. I'd be happy to test it when it comes out
Sure, we need more--just look at all the posts on this forum from users that have been infected! 9_9

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:37 pm
by rokytnji.1
Not that I care much. But if I was curious. I have enough hardware for a fresh install and a run at it.

I suggest other users can do the same. I cannot comment on anything else about it. Any files,pics,images I give the wife in the mail. I tell her to run it through her anti-virus 1st.

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:43 pm
by gimbleguy
Stevo wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:30 pm
gimbleguy wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:07 pm I think it's great that linux is starting to have a variety of anti virus software. I hope there will be many more to choose from in the future.

I hope Windows Defender will be good. I'd be happy to test it when it comes out
Sure, we need more--just look at all the posts on this forum from users that have been infected! 9_9
The more apps we get on linux the better it is for the community. Hopefully it will attract more people to use linux. Apps like MSI afterburner on linux would be good to have.

This is the main reason I joined MXlinux, for the amount of software it has on it's support. Especially Virtualbox on the default install option.

Re: Microsoft Defender goes Linux

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:34 pm
by Head_on_a_Stick
Stevo wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:30 pm
gimbleguy wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:07 pm I think it's great that linux is starting to have a variety of anti virus software. I hope there will be many more to choose from in the future.

I hope Windows Defender will be good. I'd be happy to test it when it comes out
Sure, we need more--just look at all the posts on this forum from users that have been infected! 9_9
Microsoft intends to introduce the ATP variant rather than the antivirus tool: https://www.concurrency.com/blog/novemb ... fender-atp

It seems to act in a similar way to apparmor (AFAICT).