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Posted: **Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:45 am**

It's very hard to find a conky that will work on every system, and we're hoping this one will work for most users. I'm looking for info on how it looks:

--on your screen (Quick System Info if not good)
--in your language (which one?)

If it doesn't work for you, use Conky Manager to select a different one or the Conky Toggle to just turn it off for the rest of the eternity.

Thanks.

Posted: **Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:35 pm**

Alignment off. And text as expected small. But I revised it for my screen.

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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 
           Distro: MX-19beta-1_x64 patito feo August 25  2019 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: F2A68HM-H v: x.x serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: FB date: 04/22/2015 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           Speed: 1397 MHz min/max: 1400/3100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1397 2: 1397 3: 1397 4: 1397 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] driver: radeon v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD KAVERI (DRM 2.50.0 4.19.0-5-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Kaveri HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-3: Logitech Webcam Pro 9000 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 40:8d:5c:0d:62:1b 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 60:e3:27:08:b6:6c 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 755.94 GiB used: 5.79 GiB (0.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB 
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           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 9.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 10 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 215 Uptime: 19m Memory: 14.63 GiB used: 1.43 GiB (9.8%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.33

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:16 am**

It looks OK but I question its color scheme of dark blue and green against that lighter blue portion of the default wallpaper. It's not that easy to see vs. if there was more color contrast. Colorblind people may have even more trouble trying to read it. I like its style though.

I didn't try playing with other languages to check its translations as I'm pretty much unilingual and didn't want to be unable to figure out how to change back to English. :)

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System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19beta-1_x64 patito feo August 25  2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: A780GM-LE serial: <filter> 
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: P1.50 date: 05/25/2010 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Phenom II X4 925 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: K10 
           family: 10 (16) model-id: 4 stepping: 2 microcode: 10000DB L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 20755 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 1600 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
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           bus ID: 01:05.0 chip ID: 1002:9610 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz 
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           v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
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           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1002:4383 
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           source: ERR-102 
Sensors:   Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
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           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
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Info:      Processes: 202 Uptime: 3m Memory: 7.55 GiB used: 510.0 MiB (6.6%) Init: SysVinit 
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           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.33

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:52 am**

I've tested on four different screen resolutions from 1024x768 and up. It looks fine with regard to the amount of screen estate it uses.

The HiDPI I tested on has a resolution of 3200x1800, and is just about readable at that resolution. It doesn't obey the x2 scaling sadly.

I don't think a predominately blue/green Conky looks great on a predominantly blue/green background; the blues and greens would need to be more closely matched for that to work. I realise that the Beta wallpaper is not necessarily the one Final will use, of course.

Conky Toggle is my first port of call on each new installation, so my aesthetic thoughts are academic at best.

Chris

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:50 pm**

Conky appears fine on my display. Something odd happens when I adjust the time to 24-hour. First, when I edit the widget it appears to have 24-hour selected but 12-hour is displayed.

Conky orig.png

Then, if I click Apply to set 24-hour, it does that but also changes the style and layout. Compare:

Conky 1.png

Conky 2.png

Finally, we need to get rid of the am/pm for the 24-hour display.

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:20 pm**

Gaer Boy wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:50 pm Conky appears fine on my display. Something odd happens when I adjust the time to 24-hour. First, when I edit the widget it appears to have 24-hour selected but 12-hour is displayed.
Conky orig.png

Then, if I click Apply to set 24-hour, it does that but also changes the style and layout. Compare:
Conky 1.png
Conky 2.png
Finally, we need to get rid of the am/pm for the 24-hour display.

The 12/24 plus pm-display is solved with the conky itslef, by displaying the proper timeformat defined by your chosen locale. The 12/24 fix using conky-manager will destroy internal conky-pmfix, and will replace all %I (12h) with %H (24%).
So to say: Not the conky as to be fixed, which do already display the timeformat properly , but the "conky-manager fix" has to be fixed, by not touching the already pmfixed-conky lines. :lipsrsealed:

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:32 pm**

@fehlix - The conky as installed does not display the time format defined by my locale, or that selected on installation, which is 24-hour. All other displays of time are 24-hour, except the conky.

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:37 pm**

Gaer Boy wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:32 pm @fehlix - The conky as installed does not display the time format defined by my locale, or that selected on installation, which is 24-hour. All other displays of time are 24-hour, except the conky.

What is your locale?

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:10 pm**

London. System clock set to display 24hr. I never use 12hr. I will reinstall (for the 7th time) tomorrow morning and check everything carefully but I don't expect to find a difference.

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:16 pm**

Gaer Boy wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:10 pm London. System clock set to display 24hr. I never use 12hr. I will reinstall (for the 7th time) tomorrow morning and check everything carefully but I don't expect to find a difference.

London - that results in a time zone setting of Europe/London.
Show your locale setting:

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echo $LANG

EDIT:
OK, something with the conky:
On commadn line: this is correct:

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TZ=Europe/London LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 date +%c
Tue 27 Aug 2019 19:52:41 BST

But conky shows it wrongly:

conky-time.png

need to dig into this ...

Posted: **Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:57 am**

The current Conky PM/AM handling will not properly set the 12/24 hour and am/pm-display for those countries /locale :

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en_AU   : English locale for Australia
en_GB   : English locale for Britain
en_NZ   : English locale for New Zealand
es_NI   : Spanish locale for Nicaragua
es_PE   : Spanish locale for Peru
es_VE   : Spanish locale for Venezuela
he_IL   : Hebrew locale for Israel
is_IS   : Icelandic locale for Iceland
ja_JP   : Japanese language locale for Japan
ko_KR   : Korean locale for Republic of Korea
tr_TR   : Turkish locale for Turkey
zh_CN   : Chinese locale for Peoples Republic of China
zh_TW   : Chinese locale for Taiwan R.O.C.

Those locale do have within the LC_TIME defintion a PM/AM defintion but also a 24h defintion.
So I had adjusted the pmfix to not rely simply on existence on a "PM/AM"-definition,
but check the full "date-time" definition for existence of pm/am and 12h, resp.
Can somebody check for those locale above the time and am/pm display is now fixed.
Do place both below scripts into
~/.conky/MX-Cowon/ with the mentioned file names.
Below a fixed version of our current default Conky MX-Cowon_more_sys_small:
This:
~/.conky/MX-Cowon/MX-Cowon_more_sys_small

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######################
# - Conky settings - #
##################### 
update_interval 1
total_run_times 0
net_avg_samples 1
cpu_avg_samples 1

imlib_cache_size 0
double_buffer yes
no_buffers yes

#####################
# - Text settings - #
#####################
use_xft yes
xftfont Dinreg:size=100
override_utf8_locale yes
text_buffer_size 2048
xftalpha 0.9

#############################
# - Window specifications - #
#############################
own_window_class Conky
own_window yes
own_window_type conky
own_window_transparent yes

own_window_hints undecorated,below,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
#own_window_argb_visual yes
#own_window_argb_value 100

alignment top_right
gap_x 40
gap_y 40
minimum_size 220 220


#########################
# - Graphics settings - #
#########################
draw_shades no

default_color 025101
default_shade_color 1d1d1d
color0 ffffff
color1 0f0c03
color2 0f225d
color3 1c1911

#lua_load ~/.conky/conkybg.lua
#lua_draw_hook_pre conky_draw_bg

own_window_argb_value 0
own_window_argb_visual yes
own_window_colour 000000

lua_load ~/.conky/MX-Cowon/conky_hours.lua

TEXT
${voffset -20}${lua hours}
${color2}${offset 40}${voffset -100}${time %M}
${voffset -140}${offset 10}${font Roboto-Light:bold:size=12}${color2}${time %A} ${offset 10}${color2}${time %B %d}
${offset 150}${voffset -175}${font Roboto-Light:size=12}${color2}${lua AM_PM}
#system
${offset 0}${voffset 160}${font Roboto-Light:pixelsize=12}${offset 14}${color3}hdd ${offset 4}${color4}${fs_used_perc /}%${offset 4}${color3} mem ${offset 4}${color4}${memperc}%${offset 4} ${color3}cpu ${offset 4}${color4}${cpu cpu0}%

and a pmfix lua file:
~/.conky/MX-Cowon/conky_hours.lua

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function has_ampm()
    local handle = io.popen("locale  -k d_t_fmt | grep  -sqo -E '%r|%p|%I' && echo yes || echo no")
    local output = handle:read("*l")
    handle:close()
    return  output 
end

if has_ampm() == "yes" then
	ampm = true
else
	ampm = false
end

function conky_hours()
	if ampm then
		return os.date("%I")
    else
		return os.date("%H")
    end
end

function conky_ampm()
	if ampm then
		return os.date("%P")
    else
		return ''
    end
end

function conky_AMPM()
	if ampm then
		return os.date("%p")
    else
		return ''
    end
end

function conky_am_pm()
	return conky_ampm()
end

function conky_AM_PM()
	return conky_AMPM()
end

function conky_lang()
     return os.getenv("LANG")
end

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:28 pm**

I have placed your files into my local GitHub repo for mx-conky-data--thanks for all the work! I did not check whether those few locales are now correct, not much time here and I figure we will hear about it anyway if there are still problems.

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:59 pm**

Picking up various comments that have been made

I've made a change to the conky rc files which means that they only work if you have compositing enabled (xfce or compton), but if so, they work better! These should be the only "own_window_" lines. own_window_color should be deleted.
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own_window yes
own_window_transparent yes
own_window_type desktop
own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager
own_window_class Conky

I haven't had time to carry this through and test it for this round, but will look at it for the next. Thanks.

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:01 pm**

It looks OK but I question its color scheme of dark blue and green against that lighter blue portion of the default wallpaper. It's not that easy to see vs. if there was more color contrast. Colorblind people may have even more trouble trying to read it.

Not sure how to handle this. I myself like the fact that it is not highly visible, making it less intrusive. Going to leave it for now, thanks for the comment.

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:18 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:01 pm
It looks OK but I question its color scheme of dark blue and green against that lighter blue portion of the default wallpaper. It's not that easy to see vs. if there was more color contrast. Colorblind people may have even more trouble trying to read it.
Not sure how to handle this. I myself like the fact that it is not highly visible, making it less intrusive. Going to leave it for now, thanks for the comment.

I think that wallpaper and Conky look superb. If you change it please leave that Conky as an alternative "MX-19 Beta 1" Conky on release ISO. Those Conkys hardly take up any space do they?

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:00 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:01 pm
It looks OK but I question its color scheme of dark blue and green against that lighter blue portion of the default wallpaper. It's not that easy to see vs. if there was more color contrast. Colorblind people may have even more trouble trying to read it.
Not sure how to handle this. I myself like the fact that it is not highly visible, making it less intrusive. Going to leave it for now, thanks for the comment.

No worries. I just have a hard time seeing anyway, and have a pet peeve against things like blue or green fonts against blue backgrounds. I've encountered websites like that. Either a different default wallpaper or the user selecting a different conky will fix it, and since this is only the first beta there's no guarantee that the current wallpaper will be the default one in the final release candidate, so...

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:03 pm**

Beside one can always edit the conky and change the colors to their liking. If someone does like my brother with rotating backgrounds, there in no way to get colors that work for all the backgrounds.

Posted: **Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:56 pm**

towwire wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:03 pm ....If someone does like my brother with rotating backgrounds, there in no way to get colors that work for all the backgrounds.

*Raises my hand*

My wallpapers change every 7 minutes!

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:51 am**

I like the new default conky. Usually I just toggle the conky off, but this one I think I'll keep on-screen. It's small enough to not be a distraction and doesn't overwhelm with superfluous information.
I have tailored the colours of it to complement my chosen background wallpaper using the eyedropper tool in MX Conky.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:20 am**

Ghost67 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:51 am...
I have tailored the colours of it to complement my chosen background wallpaper using the eyedropper tool in MX Conky.

Hi, Ghost! Yes, I saw you changing the conky colours in your youtube series on the Beta1.

I also saw you attempt to change icon sets and wonder why the icons in the MX Tools window didn't change.

1. first, you may or may not have to close and reopen the MX Tools window to see the changes after an icon change. Otherwise, just scroll through the MX apps in Whisker Menu.

2. second, while the mx app icons are not hardwired per se, their .desktop files mainly point to mx-specific icon filenames.

So unless an icon theme has created their own icons with the same name (often that filename is just a symlink to one of their existing icons) or the mx filename is somehow recognised as equivalent to an existing icon, the MX app icons won't change when you apply that icon theme.

Moka and Numix Circle are established older icon sets (that I like a lot) that don't see much updates, if at all. So they won't have mx-specific icons.

As for which icon sets actually have mx-specific icons, see the Sardi and Surfn icon sets from Eric Dubois (of Arcolinux).

ZMA's icons do as well, amazingly since the time of MX15/16. See for example his Antu-universal icon theme:
https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show ... ent=176085

I'm not sure how well ZMA has kept up with changes in our MX app filenames (e.g. MX Defaultlook became MX-tweak) and additions of new MX apps, but I think at least some of the MX apps will still show up in their icon sets.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:01 am**

@asqwerth Hey, thanks for all that info and double thanks for checking out my videos :)
Am I right in thinking that the MX specific icons are in the process of changing even as we speak? I could swear that the MX Cleanup icon has gone through a change just this week!
I'll be sure to try out Eric D's Sardi and Surfn themes, and also ZMA's Antu Universal too.
Many thanks!

Edit: Antu had 300 new icons added last month I see :)

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:10 am <wrong thread>
Yes: they are being refined as we go through the beta stage, and the MX Cleanup icon has changed this week.

I agree wrong thread. This was a reply to @asqwerth in this thread. Cheers.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:10 am**

<wrong thread>
Yes: they are being refined as we go through the beta stage, and the MX Cleanup icon has changed this week.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:37 am**

OK, Jerry, back to the topic. I was posting in general to comment on all of Ghostie's customisation tests on the Beta, including the conky but then I strayed into other areas.

Conky-related thing: Ghostie tried changing all the colours in the default conky using MX-Conky, and then wondered why he couldn't change the colour of the small text (showing CPU, RAM details).

I think that's because the conky config probably only uses text variables to define the colours of the large text, while the small text just came set with a specific html colour code.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:51 am**

Jerry3904 wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:10 am <wrong thread>
Yes: they are being refined as we go through the beta stage, and the MX Cleanup icon has changed this week.

Nice, MX tools icons looks pretty uniform now except iDevice Mounter icon, it's very ugly to be honest. Hope change is coming for it too.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:42 am**

Conky-related thing: Ghostie tried changing all the colours in the default conky using MX-Conky, and then wondered why he couldn't change the colour of the small text (showing CPU, RAM details).

I think that's because the conky config probably only uses text variables to define the colours of the large text, while the small text just came set with a specific html colour code.

Good question. A bit of background first. When I started this project, I realized that I could get around specific color versions by replacing color codes with generic references; hence the appearance of the group of color1, color2, etc. before the TEXT. I tried to insert such generic color tags for text elements that people might want to change. Since there were over 40 conkies by the time I had assembled the MX-19 collection, however, I did not isolate every little text fragment.

So anyone can open the script, identify the feature of interest, insert color tags (e.g., ${color99}...{color}) around it to isolate its color, and then that feature can be changed with MX Conky.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:53 am**

Not a problem though, more of a curiosity when I explored the colour options.
Thanks Jerry

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:06 pm**

Jerry,

Slightly off topic, but related.

You said you had a collection of 40 conkys. This is a wonderful bounty, and gives users many options. The current one in the beta is not to my taste, what I call a "big conky". But so what, it is so easy to select a different one, or none at all. This is the great flexibility of MX.

Or edit the conky a bit yourself. I never did before, but it was not hard to figure out. I use the antiX default conky, modified by me deleting 3 lines (#commenting them out) and adding one at the end to show my data partition.

Posted: **Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:12 pm**

Wait: you think the default for Beta 1 is a "big conky"?

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:07 am**

Can you post a screenshot of your entire screen and upload it to the forum so we can see what is going on?

Posted: **Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:26 am**

By big conky, I mean with those big font sizes showing dates and times.

Nice and decorative, but too much for me...just my taste. I like the smaller text, compact style of the antiX conky, which I edit to make a bit smaller.

No complaints, just commenting on the many options available fi one conky does not meet your requirements.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:57 am**

My config from MX-18 conkyrc2core doesn't show the clock. I'll try to make a screenshot

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:00 am**

This is a screenshot with the missing clock and circles.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:54 am**

entropyfoe wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:26 am By big conky, I mean with those big font sizes showing dates and times.

I agree, I think it’s a tad bit big.

But honestly the thing that made me change it was the way the hour and minutes numbers overlapped. IMO it’s hard to read quickly.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:22 pm**

So, it's a bit big, no big deal, if reviewers judge by conky or what conky, that is pretty shallow.
Too big for my eye, maybe others like SwampRabit, but this misses my point.

It is so easy to change (40 easy choices) , remove conky completely, or edit the conky.

I was not complaining about the conky, it should be tuned to make the best live desktop to attract users and reviewers.

Any real user will adjust it to their liking.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:28 pm**

svx_biker wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:00 am This is a screenshot with the missing clock and circles.

MX-18 configs for the conkies will generally not work on MX-19, if nothing else because in MX-19 compositing is enabled by default. I spent a lot of time to get a set that would show more or less correctly.

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:26 pm**

svx_biker wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:57 am My config from MX-18 conkyrc2core doesn't show the clock. I'll try to make a screenshot

Toggle off and on with "Conky Toggle" (in the menu). You have probably started the conky with MX Conky Manager, which seem not always change working directory, so the lua-rings get not loaded.

Posted: **Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:39 am**

Well this is a fresh install from the Beta 1 ISO and I just loaded the same config I use on MX-18. Strange enougn the "hands" of the clock show a few seconds and then disappear. This always happens if I switch off and on with conky manager and also if I toggle conky off and on as suggested by fehlix.

PS: Only the "hands" show for some seconds - the lua-rings not even show for some seconds.

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:30 am**

SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:54 am
entropyfoe wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:26 am By big conky, I mean with those big font sizes showing dates and times.
I agree, I think it’s a tad bit big.

But honestly the thing that made me change it was the way the hour and minutes numbers overlapped. IMO it’s hard to read quickly.

I finally figured out what people are talking about: they don't like graphic design! But that was a prominent criterion in our selection, we wanted to get away from the typical Linux geeky conky and adapt it to our wide user base.

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:45 am**

Jerry, I don’t think it has to be geeky, simple and clear work really well as a default imo.

Ones like:
MX-Semplice
MX-Gotham 17
MX-Flair
MX-Elementary

Sure people can change it, but the default should just work to the point that most people don’t feel they have to.

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:10 am**

IMO, the default conky has to:

1. use fonts that widely-support many different written languages, since not every language uses the Latin alphabet.
2. display only basic information that translates well and still visually looks good across many different languages

So many of the conkys with interesting looking fonts may not work for an international user base as a result.

And once you replace their original font with a more prosaic but widely supported font like Noto, they often lose their cool unique look.

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:24 am**

SwampRabbit wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:45 am Jerry, I don’t think it has to be geeky, simple and clear work really well as a default imo.

Ones like:
MX-Semplice
MX-Gotham 17
MX-Flair
MX-Elementary

Sure people can change it, but the default should just work to the point that most people don’t feel they have to.

Gotham 17 and Elementary are out b/c we used them already. I looked at Semplice in other languages, and it was all screwed up b/c of the font being used. I like Flair, but never ran it through other languages--and changing color doesn't work very well at all, I tried (created color lines inside the folder).

Posted: **Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:53 am**

On flair: the selection of color1 (dark green) looks good, but I can't get the "greenline" in the images folder to come up with anything except lime. If anyone can do that so it shows in the conky with the same color as color1 I would be grateful

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:27 pm**

Just found that in Beat 2 conkyrc2core works again, i.e. hands and lua rings are back again.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:52 pm**

That looks so nice from now. Both in general looking and font types. Congratulations..

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:54 am**

The present default conky is not very nice to look at, I find, so I turn off conky altogether on my installations.

(I don't need it on screen anyway.)

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:00 am**

mxer wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:54 am The present default conky is not very nice to look at,

Agree. And I always change it to my own (modified Gotham) and some others..

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:19 am**

Many like it a matter of taste. The point is you have options as you both took advantage of.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:59 am**

Meanwhile, not to be misunderstood, saying "I always change", I just mean the last two point releases.. conkies of MX 16 and 17 were nice to me :)

And this candidate could be still nice even without the symbols (imho.. would look clearer..) .. Just as an alternative..

Posted: **Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:44 pm**

I've become quite a fan of simplice after making a few changes:

--dropped the font for the elements around the clock itself, making it easier to read at a glance
--increased the font of the system info at the bottom
--used MX Conky to adjust the colors to the default wallpaper

Don't believe the font would translate well into other languages, though.

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