MX-17 Beta 2 Feedback

[richb]

I do not have much of an issue with the way they are on a 1920 X 1080. The app icons scale up reasonably with panel width and the notification icons can be scaled with the notification properties.

[Stevo]

I do not have much of an issue with the way they are on a 1920 X 1080. The app icons scale up reasonably with panel width and the notification icons can be scaled with the notification properties.

I'm just assuming that the notification properties are not instantly discoverable, based on some of the video reviews we've seen on Youtube lately. It would be better if we would have them scaling bigger with the panel as default, rather than have to change the max value manually.

[richb]

I do not have much of an issue with the way they are on a 1920 X 1080. The app icons scale up reasonably with panel width and the notification icons can be scaled with the notification properties.

I'm just assuming that the notification properties are not instantly discoverable, based on some of the video reviews we've seen on Youtube lately. It would be better if we would have them scaling bigger with the panel as default, rather than have to change the max value manually.

I see your point. The first thing I do on a new install is raise the font size for the NA, A size of 44 is comfortable for me. However for a new user that "fix" is not obvious.

[Stevo]

Icons in the system tray are still limited to 22 pixels max as the default, and that is too small for higher DPI screens. Is there any downside to raising the maximum size on the ISO?

they can get pretty "cartoony" on high-dpi monitors. at 64 (the max), the default panel takes up almost the whole left side of the screen of a 1600x900 monitor.

I'm sorry, but I can't see how raising the maximum allowed size of the icons forces the panel to get bigger. On my 1920 x 1080 15.6 laptop screen, which is not uncommon, let alone even higher dpi counts, 22 pixels is just too small. They stay the same size if I raise the minimum size until I scale up the panel pixel size. If I don't raise the maximum size from 22, they stay dinky even if I make the panel bigger for my screen. But maybe this only applies to horizontal vs vertical panels?

[BitJam]

As I've said before, I really think we should be scaling these sizes automatically on the live system based on the screen resolution. This way the system should be very usable right out of the box on a very wide range of hardware. The default of making everything teeny-tiny on high resolution displays makes no sense.

[Stevo]

As I've said before, I really think we should be scaling these sizes automatically on the live system based on the screen resolution. This way the system should be very usable right out of the box on a very wide range of hardware. The default of making everything teeny-tiny on high resolution displays makes no sense.

I was reading on the xfce forum that they recommend xrandr/arandr for that sort of scaling, but haven't messed around with that. I'm not sure if those keep the resolution at the display's native one, which font dpi and icon scaling does. If we had automatic display scaling for xfce, that would be a distinct advance. Do any other xfce distros have that?

[danielson]

Having a Conky conflict with Cairo (maybe).

Ever since i installed a few themes in Cairo, i can no longer access Conky clocks.

[danielson]

Vivaldi is set as default browser and it is also set that way in applications but Firefox still loads.

[tascoast]

Display=1680x1050, Panel Row Size=38, Notification Area=28

In a horizontal Panel I typically bump up the default Notification Area. The Panel icons still appear larger as they 'fill' the Panel space but it works for me.
Also using two rows on Workplace Switcher, a more compact arrangement.

viewtopic.php?f=97&t=42447&p=416413&hil ... er#p416408

...mentions an 'allow drag and drop' setting I'd been looking for. My Windows button Panel objects are currently opaque, but if panel reordering is set as I've done in MX-16, only the active window is, with the others being clear save for the text labels. This suits a Panel using a transparent background image. Is the setting hidden now in MX-17b2?

[dolphin_oracle]

Display=1680x1050, Panel Row Size=38, Notification Area=28

In a horizontal Panel I typically bump up the default Notification Area. The Panel icons still appear larger as they 'fill' the Panel space but it works for me.
Also using two rows on Workplace Switcher, a more compact arrangement.

viewtopic.php?f=97&t=42447&p=416413&hil ... er#p416408

...mentions an 'allow drag and drop' setting I'd been looking for. My Windows button Panel objects are currently opaque, but if panel reordering is set as I've done in MX-16, only the active window is, with the others being clear save for the text labels. This suits a Panel using a transparent background image. Is the setting hidden now in MX-17b2?

right click on panel>panel preferences>Items Tab>"Window Buttons" and the 'drag and drop" option is in the pull down box.

This dialog used to be available but the preference dialog is no longer exposed to external commands.