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Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:43 am**

@ceeslans Thanks for your recent post about upgrading to MX23:
viewtopic.php?p=730037#p730037

And, thanks @Adrian for your article about MX21 -> MX23 upgrade:
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/upgradi ... nstalling/

Definitely will try it out on an MX21 system (old laptop) that doesn't have any data on it.

This reminds me that there's SO much more to learn, just in the MX Wiki alone

Another amazing source to review, before jumping into the Forum to find answers.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:21 am**

xfce 64-bit

I installed MX on my macbook and took a snapshot after my custom setup and created a live boot stick from it using MX Live USB.

Here is the QSI of my host:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-9-amd64 [6.1.27-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_beta2_x64 Libretto June 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBookPro11,1 v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 10 v: Mac-189A3D4F975D5FFC serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Apple model: Mac-189A3D4F975D5FFC v: MacBookPro11,1 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: Apple v: 431.0.0.0.0 date: 02/22/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 57.8 Wh (100.2%) condition: 57.7/71.5 Wh (80.7%) volts: 12.4 min: 11.3
    model: SMP bq20z451 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: discharging cycles: 1005
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-4278U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell gen: core 4 level: v3
    note: check built: 2013-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x45 (69) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x26
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1036 high: 1099 min/max: 800/3100 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1056 2: 1034 3: 958 4: 1099 bogomips: 20800
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics vendor: Apple driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-7.5 process: Intel 22nm built: 2013 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1,
    HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a2e class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 445x278mm (17.52x10.94") s-diag: 525mm (20.66")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Apple Color LCD built: 2013 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 149 gamma: 1.2
    size: 286x179mm (11.26x7.05") diag: 337mm (13.3") ratio: 16:10 modes: 2560x1600
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel Iris Graphics 5100 (HSW GT3)
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio vendor: Apple driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0a0c class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
    chip-ID: 8086:9c20 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Broadcom 720p FaceTime HD Camera driver: N/A pcie: speed: Unknown lanes: 63 link-max:
    gen: 6 speed: 64 GT/s bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1570 class-ID: 0480
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-9-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Apple driver: wl v: kernel
    modules: bcma pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:43a0
    class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Apple Bluetooth Host Controller type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-3.3:6
    chip-ID: 05ac:8289 class-ID: fe01
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0
    sub-v: 4196 hci-v: 4.0 rev: 2467
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
    service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 113 GiB used: 29.25 GiB (25.9%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Apple model: SSD SD0128F size: 113 GiB block-size:
    physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 321 scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 37.55 GiB size: 36.67 GiB (97.64%) used: 29.25 GiB (79.8%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2266 libs: 1154 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 231 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 3 Memory: 7.67 GiB used: 1.21 GiB (15.8%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12 Client: shell wrapper
  v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

On another PC I had an SSD that already had a btrfs partition. This SSD I have completely erased in live boot with gparted for now.

During the installation with "sudo minstall" I was always offered the manual setup of the drives, never the automatic. No matter what I selected, the installation aborted at about 11% (formatting /root or similar) and reported: No subvolumes could be created.

Here is my client system:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-9-amd64 [6.1.27-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
    resume=UUID=<filter> resume_offset=16439296
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_beta2_x64 Libretto June 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B450M Pro4 R2.0 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: P5.40 date: 03/01/2022
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3 gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x50 (80)
    stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA50000C
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache: L1: 512 KiB
    desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1559 high: 3464 min/max: 1400/4672 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1400 2: 1400 3: 1400 4: 1400 5: 1416 6: 3464
    7: 1400 8: 1400 9: 1400 10: 1400 11: 1400 12: 1576 13: 1400 14: 1700 15: 1400 16: 1400
    bogomips: 121599
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Cezanne [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Mobile Series] driver: amdgpu v: kernel
    arch: GCN-5 code: Vega process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s ports: active: HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2 empty: DP-1 bus-ID: 07:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:1638 class-ID: 0300 temp: 33.0 C
  Device-2: Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-2:3
    chip-ID: 046d:0892 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Device-3: MacroSilicon usb video type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo
    bus-ID: 5-1:2 chip-ID: 534d:2109 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 4480x1643 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1185x435mm (46.65x17.13") s-diag: 1262mm (49.7")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-A-0 pos: bottom-r model: LG (GoldStar) E2242 serial: <filter>
    built: 2012 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 477x268mm (18.78x10.55")
    diag: 547mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: HDMI-A-2 mapped: HDMI-A-1 pos: primary,top-left model: BenQ EW3270ZL
    serial: <filter> built: 2018 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2
    size: 709x399mm (27.91x15.71") diag: 814mm (32") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (renoir LLVM 15.0.6 DRM 3.49
    6.1.0-9-amd64) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    bus-ID: 3-1:2 chip-ID: 0d8c:0166 gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s class-ID: 0300 lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 07:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 07:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: C-Media USB PnP Sound Device type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
  Device-4: Logitech C920 HD Pro Webcam type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-2:3
    chip-ID: 046d:0892 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Device-5: MacroSilicon usb video type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo
    bus-ID: 5-1:2 chip-ID: 534d:2109 class-ID: 0300
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-9-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASRock driver: r8169
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.13 TiB used: 43.05 GiB (3.7%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 2B2QEXM7 temp: 30.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: SSD PLUS 240GB size: 223.57 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 04RL scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 111.33 GiB size: 109.02 GiB (97.93%) used: 43.05 GiB (39.5%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 36.72 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 39.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 33.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2056 libs: 1041 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
Info:
  Processes: 330 Uptime: 10m wakeups: 1 Memory: 30.72 GiB used: 2.21 GiB (7.2%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12 Client: shell wrapper
  v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

This phenomenon happened with xfce, as well as with KDE.

A reinstallation via the downloadable ISOs from you worked smoothly.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:51 pm**

OlafD wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:21 am
On another PC I had an SSD that already had a btrfs partition. This SSD I have completely erased in live boot with gparted for now.

During the installation with "sudo minstall" I was always offered the manual setup of the drives, never the automatic. No matter what I selected, the installation aborted at about 11% (formatting /root or similar) and reported: No subvolumes could be created.
This phenomenon happened with xfce, as well as with KDE.

A reinstallation via the downloadable ISOs from you worked smoothly.

You may have update to latest version of mx-installer, where you missed to mention which version that would be.
The version released yesterday (?) appears to have subvolume-btrfs issue and a bug-fixed version is worked on
or already on the way to the repos.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:12 pm**

I have to say, I've hopped a lot of distros, but this is my first stint with Xfce. I've been on the beta now for two weeks, using the platform professionally (12+ hours a day). I have had no problems with this at all.

I did have to flip it over to systemd to work with some init pods, but overall, the presentation is impressive.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:18 pm**

In the Touch Panel preferences for laptops, there is no option to disable when an external mouse is connected.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:56 pm**

fehlix wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:51 pm
OlafD wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:21 am
On another PC I had an SSD that already had a btrfs partition. This SSD I have completely erased in live boot with gparted for now.

During the installation with "sudo minstall" I was always offered the manual setup of the drives, never the automatic. No matter what I selected, the installation aborted at about 11% (formatting /root or similar) and reported: No subvolumes could be created.
This phenomenon happened with xfce, as well as with KDE.

A reinstallation via the downloadable ISOs from you worked smoothly.
You may have update to latest version of mx-installer, where you missed to mention which version that would be.
The version released yesterday (?) appears to have subvolume-btrfs issue and a bug-fixed version is worked on
or already on the way to the repos.

OK, thanks.

Is it enough to make the Live-USB persistence and update it? Or must update the host system and make a new snapshot and USB?

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:05 pm**

Notification for night colour starts much earlier than scheduled.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:43 pm**

OlafD wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:21 am xfce 64-bit

I installed MX on my macbook and took a snapshot after my custom setup and created a live boot stick from it using MX Live USB.

On another PC I had an SSD that already had a btrfs partition. This SSD I have completely erased in live boot with gparted for now.

During the installation with "sudo minstall" I was always offered the manual setup of the drives, never the automatic. No matter what I selected, the installation aborted at about 11% (formatting /root or similar) and reported: No subvolumes could be created.

This phenomenon happened with xfce, as well as with KDE.

A reinstallation via the downloadable ISOs from you worked smoothly.

I also tried last night to use the beta2 snapshot feature and it didn't work with the same result during installation from iso/usb
I tried sudo, not using -E option, changing to root... no use.
"No subvolumes could be created." error at 11% formating partition (btrfs) on minstall gui.
I ended up copying the home folder and changing permissions to $user home folder, so it could boot using config files from last snapshot over a fresh beta2 installation.

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:02 pm**

OlafD wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:56 pm
fehlix wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:51 pm
OlafD wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:21 am
On another PC I had an SSD that already had a btrfs partition. This SSD I have completely erased in live boot with gparted for now.

During the installation with "sudo minstall" I was always offered the manual setup of the drives, never the automatic. No matter what I selected, the installation aborted at about 11% (formatting /root or similar) and reported: No subvolumes could be created.
This phenomenon happened with xfce, as well as with KDE.

A reinstallation via the downloadable ISOs from you worked smoothly.
You may have update to latest version of mx-installer, where you missed to mention which version that would be.
The version released yesterday (?) appears to have subvolume-btrfs issue and a bug-fixed version is worked on
or already on the way to the repos.
OK, thanks.

Is it enough to make the Live-USB persistence and update it? Or must update the host system and make a new snapshot and USB?

You would use the updated mx-installer within the running live system, regardless whether persistence is used or running read-only e.g from ISO. The installer takes what the live system is running to install onto target drive(s).

Posted: **Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:20 pm**

gRegNfo wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:43 pm
OlafD wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:21 am xfce 64-bit

I installed MX on my macbook and took a snapshot after my custom setup and created a live boot stick from it using MX Live USB.

On another PC I had an SSD that already had a btrfs partition. This SSD I have completely erased in live boot with gparted for now.

During the installation with "sudo minstall" I was always offered the manual setup of the drives, never the automatic. No matter what I selected, the installation aborted at about 11% (formatting /root or similar) and reported: No subvolumes could be created.

This phenomenon happened with xfce, as well as with KDE.

A reinstallation via the downloadable ISOs from you worked smoothly.
I also tried last night to use the beta2 snapshot feature and it didn't work with the same result during installation from iso/usb
I tried sudo, not using -E option, changing to root... no use.
"No subvolumes could be created." error at 11% formating partition (btrfs) on minstall gui.
I ended up copying the home folder and changing permissions to $user home folder, so it could boot using config files from last snapshot over a fresh beta2 installation.

The latest version 23.6.05mx23, which shsosuld be available by now on the repo's and potentially on the mirrored -repos, is suppost to have fixed the "cannot create subvolume" issue.
The recommended use on the terminal command line would be to start the installer
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