Yes.kmathern wrote:Is it just an error when exiting the metainstaller?
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http://mepiscommunity.org/mxlonesomepoint wrote:I just learned of this new distro. Can you tell me what it's (going to be) like or give me an information link?
What are people getting for memory usage? Is htop a good tool to get this? It seems like minimum recommended memory should be 256 MB, and it would run well with 512--barring those big memory-eaters like Google Earth. It'll probably boot to a desktop with 128 MB, but start swapping as soon as you do anything.
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I posted earlier that it runs great (live) on a PIII-700MHz with 512MB.Stevo wrote:What are people getting for memory usage? Is htop a good tool to get this? It seems like minimum recommended memory should be 256 MB, and it would run well with 512--barring those big memory-eaters like Google Earth. It'll probably boot to a desktop with 128 MB, but start swapping as soon as you do anything.
Just a data point.
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Re: MX-14 beta 2
It is using 130MiB in a VB install when no apps open.
184MiB with Thunar and Qupzilla open
184MiB with Thunar and Qupzilla open
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I did a test today with an Athlon XP 1700 system with 256 MB RAM. It ran live, and installed, but was pretty much unusable. I tried four different browsers; two of them crashed when a 'busy' page tried to load, and the other two wouldn't run Flash.Stevo wrote:It seems like minimum recommended memory should be 256 MB, and it would run well with 512--barring those big memory-eaters like Google Earth. It'll probably boot to a desktop with 128 MB, but start swapping as soon as you do anything.
I then tried with the graphics card removed, taking another 64 MB of RAM away. It booted live, but was too slow to be useful. When I tried to install from live, it failed at the 'creating' partition' stage with an error message.
I then tried using the CLI installer from the boot menu, but early on I was left with a black screen and no control.
My conclusion is that 512 MB is the realistic minimum.
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I've wondered how much linux swap might make a difference on that small amount of ram (256mb)? I've seen machine running OK on 1 gig of ram but add 2-3 gigs of Swap to the hard drive and it acts like a new machine it runs so fast. Don't know if it would make as much difference starting with such a small amount of ram or not.
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Although MX-14 is pretty light compared to KDE and some other implementations of Xfce, it still is 'heavy' as it uses quite a lot of stuff to make it a featured 'desktop' ie all the gvfs stuff that adds around 40MB to running live RAM use.
I would say that 256MB with pre-configured swap to be the bare minimum. 512 should be ok, but users should not expect miracles.
ie running firefox with 100 tabs open whilst watching a video in vlc and ripping a dvd.
I would say that 256MB with pre-configured swap to be the bare minimum. 512 should be ok, but users should not expect miracles.
ie running firefox with 100 tabs open whilst watching a video in vlc and ripping a dvd.
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Ah, you've seen me at work...anticapitalista wrote: running firefox with 100 tabs open whilst watching a video in vlc and ripping a dvd.
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Well sh!t, that makes it pretty much worthless then.anticapitalista wrote:...but users should not expect miracles.
ie running firefox with 100 tabs open whilst watching a video in vlc and ripping a dvd.
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Joking aside, you will be surprised what some people think they can do with an old box/laptop.
If I got a euro (or dollar/yen/pound) for every unrealistic expectation of what (name distro here) can do, I'd be a millionaire.
You know how it goes.
"I have an old computer that worked fantastically with windows 98 until it got slowed down by virus. I read that linux can save old computers like mine, but what a load of baloney! I can't surf the net, video doesn't work, I tried to rip a dvd. Nothing but crashes.
BTW It is a PII with 128MB RAM. Why won't firefox work? Netscape did!"
If I got a euro (or dollar/yen/pound) for every unrealistic expectation of what (name distro here) can do, I'd be a millionaire.
You know how it goes.
"I have an old computer that worked fantastically with windows 98 until it got slowed down by virus. I read that linux can save old computers like mine, but what a load of baloney! I can't surf the net, video doesn't work, I tried to rip a dvd. Nothing but crashes.
BTW It is a PII with 128MB RAM. Why won't firefox work? Netscape did!"
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