MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:54 am**

Dear Friends,

MX-18 is buggy and I'd like to upgrade to MX-21. What steps are needed? I've been getting messages that I'm using an outdated version just recently
Also is there a newer version of Google chrome for either or both or these systems.

Any help or suggestions appreciated.

Thank You!
Best, Raphael

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System:
  Kernel: 4.19.0-10-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
    Desktop: Xfce v: 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26  2019
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 date: 04/15/2013
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 50.0 Wh (100.0%) condition: 50.0/47.5 Wh (105.2%)
    volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS status: N/A
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP
    arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 799 high: 800 min/max: 800/2400 cores: 1: 800 2: 798
    bogomips: 9578
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen6
    bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.19.2 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
    resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems 7 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:1b.0
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.0-10-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 10.0 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: alx v: kernel port: 3000
    bus-ID: 01:00.0
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce
    v: kernel port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 13.18 GiB (2.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 583.57 GiB used: 13.18 GiB (2.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 240 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2034
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.tds.net/mxlinux/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info:
  Processes: 206 Uptime: 19m Memory: 5.71 GiB used: 2.43 GiB (42.6%)
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 4.4.12
  inxi: 3.3.19

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:07 am**

Personally, I'd back up your stuff and install clean.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:24 am**

There is no upgrade path from MX-18 to MX-19, and from MX-19 to MX-21 is only recommended for those who would be able to fix breakages. Sadly, an upgrade from MX-18 to MX-21 is very unlikely to work.

https://mxlinux.org/migration/

Chris

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:23 am**

Okay Thanks!
How can I get mx21 on this Laptop?
The version of MX-18 I have has more bugs than carters got liver pills. it wasn't so bad when I first used it and it was installed by another person. Whom was quite familiar with many distros and Linux systems. But he's extremely difficult to track down. Hence I'm seeking help here.
Best,
Raphael

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:46 am**

Read this:
https://mxlinux.org/manuals/

It will tell you everything you need to know, and any questions you have during the process will be answered here in the forums.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am**

Excellent response there, buddy!

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:22 pm**

Well that very nice!
who's buddy?
This would all be more than enough if I was a astute LINUX student and knew much more about LINUX.
There is a lot of information in this link file:///C:/Users/user1/Downloads/mxum.pdf and many areas for error for a shall we say "novice."
Perhaps there is someone on this Forum that would be able to kinda walk a "new kid on the block" through this process? Yes.
Sincerely, Raphael

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:24 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:23 am... How can I get mx21 on this Laptop?..

Just download the MX21.3 iso and write on a usb using the "Live Usb Maker" on your current MX.

Boot with that (Enter Bios settings if required, to take the usb to top in Boot sequence)

On live session you can save (copy) the current home folder to somewhere (access the MX 18 partition from left pane in file manager)

Yes, there is an option (during installation) to preserve home but you better not use that as there are many differences between them, you better keep/have a fresh, brand-new home.

Install on the same partition (select "root" for that partition under "use for" column, (that means"where to install MX"))

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:56 pm**

Thank You! that makes a Little more sense and sounds like it could be accomplished with a "little help from my friends" here and perhaps locally.
How large of a USB would I need? I assume you mean thumb or flash drive. Yes?

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:12 pm**

Yep, flash drive / thumb .. any size that the iso fits . (I even have an old 2GB usb stick that always works)

Just , in case you're also thinking to make the live usb a "persistent" one, then as big as possible.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:08 pm**

Wonderful!
Have you found any brand that is more reliable or durable than another?
Curious are there any "red flags" to be on the look out for while doing this process? like to make the best choices possible and get it right the first time.
Not sure if it was on here but i heard that there are some 5,000 different Linux systems that have come and gone. wow!
Thanks again and I hope no one gets offended if I should ask some questions that may seem like no-brainers to the well versed in Linux.
Cordially, Raphael

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System:
  Kernel: 4.19.0-10-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
    Desktop: Xfce v: 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26  2019
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 date: 04/15/2013
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 50.0 Wh (100.0%) condition: 50.0/47.5 Wh (105.2%)
    volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS status: N/A
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP
    arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 799 high: 800 min/max: 800/2400 cores: 1: 800 2: 798
    bogomips: 9578
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen6
    bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.19.2 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
    resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems 7 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:1b.0
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.0-10-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 10.0 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: alx v: kernel port: 3000
    bus-ID: 01:00.0
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce
    v: kernel port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 13.18 GiB (2.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 583.57 GiB used: 13.18 GiB (2.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 240 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2034
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.tds.net/mxlinux/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info:
  Processes: 206 Uptime: 19m Memory: 5.71 GiB used: 2.43 GiB (42.6%)
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 4.4.12
  inxi: 3.3.19

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:24 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:08 pmHave you found any brand that is more reliable or durable than another?..

Actually, this is another topic.. I can just say SanDisks (some models) may not always work.. And my 2 very old (even from the first days of usb sticks) are Toshiba and USBest (though it seems to be a Chinese brand. That stick was just presented by the ISP)

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:34 pm**

Great info! Thank you...

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:41 pm**

Here's a couple of Attachments and I am not certain what should be checked or not used, etc...?! Or lets say the correct places to locate things either?
The Partition might be a bit tricky for me?
Are we certain my laptop can operate MX21.3? I posted the Specs in 2 previous posts starting with post #1.
Thank You,
R

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:10 pm**

You need to post your QSI every time you start a new thread like this. I, and the other members here, don't have the time to go hunting for an old one.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:28 pm**

So sorry! didn't know.
Post number's 1, 11, 16.

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System:
  Kernel: 4.19.0-10-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
    Desktop: Xfce v: 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26  2019
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 date: 04/15/2013
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%)
    volts: 10.8 min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS status: N/A
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP
    arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 2 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1466 high: 1719 min/max: 800/2400 cores: 1: 1214
    2: 1719 bogomips: 9578
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen6
    bus-ID: 00:02.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.19.2 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
    resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems 7 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:1b.0
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.0-10-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 10.0 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet
    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: alx v: kernel port: 3000
    bus-ID: 01:00.0
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce
    v: kernel port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 14.25 GiB (2.4%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 583.57 GiB used: 14.25 GiB (2.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 240 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2034
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
    1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.tds.net/mxlinux/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info:
  Processes: 204 Uptime: 7h 44m Memory: 5.71 GiB used: 3.32 GiB (58.2%)
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: Bash v: 4.4.12
  inxi: 3.3.19

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:34 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:41 pm... Are we certain my laptop can operate MX21.3?..

You can try everything on live session.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:36 pm**

Just select the iso and the target usb stick (the one to be prepared), click "next".

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:42 pm**

Full Featured mode or Image mode?

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:49 pm**

Image Mode.

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:11 pm**

Thank you!
I'm at the MX-Live - File manager window. There are 5 icons there with locks on each one. antiX , boot, EFI, cdrom.ico, version. Which one do I use?
I'd like to save the Home folder from MX-18 if possible. Not sure about dealing with the Partitions in that regard!? Please advise.
I can Close the MX Live Usb maker correct? On the MX-23.3 WildFlower window top middle it has this "Install MXLinux" Whats with that?
Do i need to go into the BIOS and change the BOOT order now? Phew!

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:01 pm**

... But ... why image mode? (Ok, no harm) but the full-featured mode enables one to use the rest of the usb stick (to save/store files etc).. especially when it's a big sized stick, that space won't be wasted.

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:05 pm**

You can access the MX 18 partition clicking on "left pane". In case it asks pw. it's demo on live session.

(If you already booted with the live usb, you don't need "live usb maker" for anything . Just use the file manager to copy-paste your MX18's home folder to somewhere (just to backup) .. that's all)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:30 pm**

Installed Google chrome. Didn't see Slimjet. I use Google chrome for most things. the HOME folder is on the Desktop.
I have like 79 updates but can't seem to give it the right PW? the user PW was demo and Super user PW was root. The PW I used on mx18 doesn't work. Keeps saying Authentication Failure. I assume I can remove the USB stick?

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 
           date: 04/15/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9578 
           Speed: 1153 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1153 2: 1059 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel 
           port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel 
           modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 611.1 GiB used: 15.21 GiB (2.5%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive 
           size: 14.92 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3 
           maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1974 lib: 991 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 215 Uptime: 37m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 3.09 GiB (54.3%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:41 pm**

You need to use the pw for live session (which's demo) , not MX18's user pw. etc...

Of course you can use Chrome, Slimjet suggestion was just for it's lighter (it was removed from Popular Apps due to some issues, but one can install the deb directly from its site)

You can run the updates then click install if you like (and answer "yes" if it asks whether you'd like to save the changes for the installed system)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:50 pm**

Thank You.
On the MX-21.3 WildFlower window top middle it has this "Install MXLinux" Whats with that?
Do i need to go into the BIOS and change the Boot order now? Phew!
Are you able to change to full-featured mode?

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:54 pm**

Since you're already on your live usb, no need to them.

You can just click "that" to begin installation (any time you like).

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:03 pm**

On the MX Linux Installer window. Do I choose Regular install using the entire disk Or Customize the disc layout > which was chosen by default. Just check NEXT Yes/No?
Boot order need changing now?
Apologize for all these questions but it's better to ask than have things blow up.
Thus far Linux 21.3 is real Sweet.

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:06 pm**

The "... entire disk" will "wipe" the whole disk and do everything for you (Auto-installation, partitioning etc.)

If you don't want to wipe the disk, choose the default one: "customize"

...Or if you don't mind wiping, just choose auto (Regular) ... (All data on entire disk will be erased)

(You don't need to do anything about Bios, boot order etc.)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:15 pm**

Problem! stopped at 12%

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:17 pm**

Just click "next".

(Not an error: It just waits and enables users to make changes at that stage, one may not want to install grub etc.. )

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:24 pm**

Okay! phew!
What about Computer Network Names?
Computer name by default just says mx
Computer domain: example.com
SaMBa Server for MS Networking is also checked.
Please Advise.
Thank You!!!

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:27 pm**

You can leave them as they are if you like (if you won't seriously have a network)

If you like you can change the computer name to , say, ralph (or so) (you'll see that in terminal: say, as: yourusername@ralph )

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:44 pm**

In case you finish the installation successfully, don't forget to detach the usb stick before you reboot (it'll tell you at the end).

Cause sometimes users forget that and ask.. as it keeps booting the live usb stick rather than the installed system on disk :)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:48 pm**

Thank YOU!
Do I Need a Root administrator Account/Root password?
I set up the Default User Account already.
Then there is Autologin and Save live desktop changes.
On second thought I'm going to leave the Default account without a PW then I won't need it every time I login

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:03 pm**

Set a pw. for root (that's something confused by many users) then (now or later) you can enable autologin .

(Having no pw. or just a space or autologin are different things. Shortly, best and recommended way is to have a normal pw. both for root and user and then if you like , enable autologin.)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:15 pm**

Problem.
I checked and put a PW in Root administrator Account and hit Next and it greyed out and hasn't done anything. seems stuck! do I need to Abort and start again?
Might it be cause I didn't put a PW in the Default user PW boxes?

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:35 pm**

Screenshot_2023-02-17_18-31-08.png

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:45 pm**

I entered a Default PW as you suggested and hit Next. I guess it takes up to 20 minutes to install Correct?

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:52 pm**

Yep. Roughly (depends on hardware).. most of it is "files are being copied..."

Anytime you like you can click "Back" (no need to abort/start again)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:04 pm**

As you've found out this turned into something more than either of use expected.
Lots of information that your well aware of is a mystery to me.
By the way I liked the idea of Slimjet being a lighter version of Google chrome which tends to be a resource hog. But, I have no idea what one has or lacks over the other.
Like i use Google Voice frequently to send Text messages cause texting for me is too tedious.
Hopefully it will complete shortly and work beautifully.
Grazie mille.
Cordially, Ralph

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:22 pm**

Dear Friends,
Hope all is well.
As you can see in the attachment which upgrading from mx 18 to mx 21.3 it seems like its stuck at 12%. Been well over an hour and no changes. It stated somewhere that this typically takes 20 mins. or less depending on hardware.

A default password was installed and Auto login was checked. Which the attachment didn't show either of these steps.

Huckleberry Finn has been extremely helpful with this and I am ultimately waiting for him to respond.
In the meantime are there any suggestions or is this normal?

Thank You!
Cordially, Raphael

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:31 am**

I wager by now it has finished?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:38 am**

Sorry to say its still the same. Not sure whether to shut it down for the night or leave it running?
Somethings wonky! If I shut it down I'll have to re enter information like the PW's,etc...

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:43 am**

Hmm.. yeah I have never had this problem, so.. I am at a loss too. Personally, I'd start over and see how it goes the second time. Those passwords, you'll need to type them more often, so you'd best remember them

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:47 am**

Thank you!
it seems to run fine Live but its stuck in cyberspace.
What do you mean by "Start Over?"
Spent all afternoon working on it.
I assume for now to leave the flashdrive in place and just shut it down or leave it on. But, don't think its going to do much. :-(

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:49 am**

As in abort, reboot and start anew with installing.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:58 am**

Going on 3 am EDT.
Guess I'll abort and leave it on running cause apparently takes time to actually Abort it.?! and pick it up later in the morning Saturday.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:23 am**

Regarding the time it takes to install MX-21.3, post #39 said:

Gigahenry007 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:45 pm ...
I guess it takes up to 20 minutes to install Correct?

And then post #40 essentially agreed saying:

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:52 pm Yep. Roughly (depends on hardware).. most of it is "files are being copied..."
...

To give that a little perspective, using an official MX-21.3 ISO on a USB 3.1 flash drive and using a USB 3.0 motherboard port, all of my MX-21 Xfce installations have taken about 6 minutes to install, if even that. My hardware is nothing special (a 2019 second generation Ryzen 5 1600 AF 3.2 GHz and a SSD).

As I said, just to give a little perspective.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:58 am**

Not sure. It's long time ahead, I have installed MX.
It looks like Gigahenry007 has not set a "default user password".
But isn't a "default user password" obligatory to continue the installation process?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:45 am**

@Gigahenry007

You have to create a user password. You can select "Autologin" afterwards, but the system requires you to have a user password first, in order to complete the installation.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:53 am**

... Yes, you can shut down any time you like but you need to begin installation from step1 next time (but, nothing to worry, as you already know those steps you can quickly go on next next)

The 20 min. etc. is for older machines and usb 2.0 of course, on my single core 32 bit laptop it's about 15 min.

As already mentioned (and already recommended by me previously) enter a user pw. then if you like check the "autologin"..

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:11 am**

Thank You for your help.
It is an official MX-21.3 ISO. I'm not sure if it's USB 3.1 flash drive, using a USB 3.0 motherboard port?
It's not indicated in the attachment but I did in fact. Set an Encrytion PW, Default user name and PW as well a Root PW. I was also asked to choose a Default keyring which I also set. It was set to Auto login as well.
All these steps seems to go well and it moves swiftly to 12% and indicates Installation in progress.
It hasn't changed in 5 hours. After resetting all the above at 3:16 am just for kicks I noted the hdd at 59%, mem 64% and cpu 1%. The cpu at a glance didn't get much higher than 4-5%.
Apparently I've done something incorrectly along the way? I have no idea what!?!?
In starting over again...does that mean formatting the USB? Download another MX 21.3 iso? If it does than please include an exact link for the download. Although I think the one on the flashdrive is geniune.

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 
           date: 04/15/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 45.7 Wh (93.1%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9578 
           Speed: 1093 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1093 2: 1036 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
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           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
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           vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106 
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           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
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           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
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           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
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           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
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           port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel 
           modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 611.1 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive 
           size: 14.92 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Partition: Message: No partition data found. 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1973 lib: 991 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 211 Uptime: 9h 10m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 4.34 GiB (76.3%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:14 am**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:11 am... In starting over again...does that mean formatting the USB Download another MX 21.3 iso...

No, no, just you can boot once more with your live usb (any time you like) and click "install MX" ...

(The usb 3.1, 3.0, 2.0 etc are just to tell it may be faster/slower with them etc.. You don't need to do any extra things..)

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:18 am**

In case it gets stuck again, you can post the /var/log/minstall.log

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:30 am**

Where do I find this? /var/log/minstall.log. I should post it now as noted in the previous post due to the steps done early this morning.
Please advise.
Do i need to enter all new Passwords in all the places indicated and what about the Encryption one which wasn't mentioned in the original instructions. I took it upon myself to do that one in an act of desperation as it wasn't done the first time.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:42 am**

You need to open/send it just after the problem .. that's the path for it (in file manager) . Also you can find it in "Quick System Info" (from menu) (click the dropdown menu when you open QSI).

You know, if you encrypt the root (main) partition, then there must be a separate non-encrypted partition for /boot

Or, you can just encrypt the home partition (like I do) and go on..

(I guess the problem might be at that stage, it may be waiting for you about such things)

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:50 am**

Do i need to enter all new Passwords in all the places indicated ?
As of 5 mins. ago after making all the changes about 3am and allowing it to run 5 hours to this morning.

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 
           date: 04/15/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.3 Wh (73.9%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9578 
           Speed: 1340 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1340 2: 1226 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
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           vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
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           port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200 
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           Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel 
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           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
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           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
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           serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive 
           size: 14.92 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1100 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
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           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
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           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
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           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
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           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 214 Uptime: 9h 55m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 4.56 GiB (80.1%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:59 am**

All anew ...

But again, since you now know how to, you can pass the first steps quickly, timezone, language, grub, pc name .. next next ...

then just username and pw. , root pw. , (and encryption password(s) if you want to encrypt..) that's all

In the meantime, setting a username all lowercase may be better (long story): i.e. raffaello rather than Raffaello for future, ease of use...

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:16 am**

OK! but do I need brand new passwords?
I'm at the "Terms Of Use" page
Do I need to do encryption and or password? will it mess things up for any reason if I don't?
Thank You!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:18 am**

No. You may/may not use the same things (up to you).

(Also you may/may not use the same pw. for user and root)

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:01 pm**

At Regular install is it correct to Format the entire disk (sda) for MX Linux?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:11 pm**

Regular (auto) installation will do all automatically. It'll wipe the whole disk first, then create (and format) partitions with required flags ... You just set language, username, user and root pw. etc..

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:13 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:01 pm At Regular install is it correct to Format the entire disk (sda) for MX Linux?

Yes.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:17 pm**

j2mcgreg wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:13 pm
Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:01 pm At Regular install is it correct to Format the entire disk (sda) for MX Linux?
Yes.

Thank You once again!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:40 pm**

Okay! I've put in all the information you suggested PW's and so on. I did not Encrypt this time. Used lower case for Default User Name.
Wait for at least 30 mins and pray this works.
The hdd is at 3% and the mem 17% and cpu 0% to 1% flashing between 0% to 1% always back to 0% then it jumps around to a higher percentage..the highest at a glance I noticed it at 28% a couple of times and 31% But, mostly in the lower percentages like 0%-10% and cycles. The hdd thus far is at 3% and the mem 17%.
Cheers!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:37 pm**

Okay its been over 45 minutes no changes.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:43 pm**

How does it look like now? Can you make a screenshot?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:51 pm**

System: Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
Desktop: Xfce 4.18.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15 2023
base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter>
Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70
date: 04/15/2013
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8
min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full
CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9578
Speed: 815 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 815 2: 890
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6")
diag: 394mm (15.5")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5
compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes
Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel
port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel
modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 611.1 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400
serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive
size: 14.92 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 1100 scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition: Message: No partition data found.
Swap: Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1967 lib: 989 flatpak: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info: Processes: 176 Uptime: 2h 40m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 1.04 GiB (18.3%)
Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A
alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06
Boot Mode: UEFI

Screenshot_2023-02-18_13-50-34.png

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:06 pm**

The hdd is 5%, mem 36%, cpu is not dropping to 0% anymore 6%-7% with fluctuating higher numbers.
If this is actually doing an Installation it is slower than molasses on a winters day in Alaska. Wow! The USB ports are apparently 2.0 and one 3.0 which is the one I'm using.
Wondering if the Lexar flashdrive is in good shape for this?
Please advise.
Thank you!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:41 pm**

Hallo!
Note the attachment which I've been seeing but thought I'd include it as a help.
Installing Google Chrome and wondering if Chromium might help get this to install correctly.
No matter what I do it stops at 12% Formatting and never changes. Installs on YouTube shows the installs are usually very brief and it done. Waiting for whats next...
Best, Raphael

Screenshot_2023-02-18_17-00-26.png

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:29 pm**

It obviously takes that long time for that error (whatever causes that, being unable to format the partition).

Just at that point you can open/send the log file I mentioned.

This will open it:

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sudo featherpad /var/log/minstall.log

... Or at least on left pane click the "Live Log" tab (on that installation window) and see/post (copy-paste) it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:25 pm**

My best guess is that the laptop's hard drive is shot. If the log that Huckleberry Finn has requested you post confirms this, here's how to replace it with a new one:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Toshiba+Sa ... ent/108390

On your laptop, this is a dead easy task. FWIW, a 250 GB Western Digital SSD is $40.00 CDN here in Toronto and I expect that it will be about the same price in Vermont.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm**

Thanks for letting me the time differences. Sorry to upset you...
Where am I supposed to paste this? sudo featherpad /var/log/minstall.log. I thought it was the same as the QSI.
Do you mean if i do another install and see that Warning formatting window? OR NOW?
The specs needed for MX 21.3 seem to exceed what my computer has to offer? Yes/No?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:07 pm**

Paste the log here in a new post.

MX 21.3 will not overwhelm your computer.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:22 am**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm I thought it was the same as the QSI.

No, it's different. It's the protocol of your install try.

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm Do you mean if i do another install and see that Warning formatting window? OR NOW?

Now.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:25 am**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm...
Where am I supposed to paste this? sudo featherpad /var/log/minstall.log. I thought it was the same as the QSI.
Do you mean if i do another install and see that Warning formatting window?..

Yep. Just after you see that warning again or when it gets stuck etc.. (in case you decide to try installation once more) paste that in a terminal then press Enter.

Also follow the "Live Log" tab on left pane (on that installation window) will show what's going on.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:26 am**

And here's the GSmartControl output of Ralph (posted by PM)

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smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.0-20-amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: Hitachi HTS541064A9E680
Serial Number: 120920J814007LG2564A
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 6c2c0fc41
Firmware Version: JA4OA480
User Capacity: 640,135,028,736 bytes [640 GB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 5400 rpm
Form Factor: 2.5 inches
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
SATA Version is: SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Sat Feb 18 19:54:05 2023 EST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is: Unavailable
APM level is: 254 (maximum performance)
Rd look-ahead is: Enabled
Write cache is: Enabled
DSN feature is: Unavailable
ATA Security is: Disabled, NOT FROZEN [SEC1]

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 45) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 171) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 062 - 0
2 Throughput_Performance P-S--- 100 100 040 - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time POS--- 177 177 033 - 1
4 Start_Stop_Count -O--C- 098 098 000 - 4358
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 100 100 005 - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate PO-R-- 100 100 067 - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance P-S--- 100 100 040 - 0
9 Power_On_Hours -O--C- 062 062 000 - 16886
10 Spin_Retry_Count PO--C- 100 100 060 - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count -O--CK 098 098 000 - 4260
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate -O-R-- 099 099 000 - 2
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 163
193 Load_Cycle_Count -O--C- 074 074 000 - 269265
194 Temperature_Celsius -O---- 187 187 000 - 32 (Min/Max 14/47)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count -O--CK 100 100 000 - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector -O---K 100 100 000 - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable ---R-- 100 100 000 - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 1
223 Load_Retry_Count -O-R-- 100 100 000 - 0
||||||_ K auto-keep
|||||__ C event count
||||___ R error rate
|||____ S speed/performance
||_____ O updated online
|______ P prefailure warning

General Purpose Log Directory Version 1
SMART Log Directory Version 1 [multi-sector log support]
Address Access R/W Size Description
0x00 GPL,SL R/O 1 Log Directory
0x01 SL R/O 1 Summary SMART error log
0x02 SL R/O 1 Comprehensive SMART error log
0x03 GPL R/O 1 Ext. Comprehensive SMART error log
0x06 SL R/O 1 SMART self-test log
0x07 GPL R/O 1 Extended self-test log
0x09 SL R/W 1 Selective self-test log
0x10 GPL R/O 1 NCQ Command Error log
0x11 GPL R/O 1 SATA Phy Event Counters log
0x80-0x9f GPL,SL R/W 16 Host vendor specific log
0xe0 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Command/Status
0xe1 GPL,SL R/W 1 SCT Data Transfer

SMART Extended Comprehensive Error Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Device Error Count: 1
CR = Command Register
FEATR = Features Register
COUNT = Count (was: Sector Count) Register
LBA_48 = Upper bytes of LBA High/Mid/Low Registers ] ATA-8
LH = LBA High (was: Cylinder High) Register ] LBA
LM = LBA Mid (was: Cylinder Low) Register ] Register
LL = LBA Low (was: Sector Number) Register ]
DV = Device (was: Device/Head) Register
DC = Device Control Register
ER = Error register
ST = Status register
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 1 [0] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10737 hours (447 days + 9 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER -- ST COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC
-- -- -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- --
84 -- 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Error: ABRT at LBA = 0x00000000 = 0

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FEATR COUNT LBA_48 LH LM LL DV DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- == -- == -- == == == -- -- -- -- -- --------------- --------------------
20 ff 00 01 01 00 00 01 00 00 01 a0 00 00:00:00.577 READ SECTOR(S)
00 d7 70 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 01 a0 ff 6d+05:49:56.169 NOP [Reserved subcommand] [OBS-ACS-2]

SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors)
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 16886 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 3 -
# 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 3 -
# 4 Short offline Completed without error 00% 3 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

SCT Status Version: 3
SCT Version (vendor specific): 256 (0x0100)
Device State: Active (0)
Current Temperature: 33 Celsius
Power Cycle Min/Max Temperature: 29/33 Celsius
Lifetime Min/Max Temperature: 14/47 Celsius
Specified Max Operating Temperature: 33 Celsius
Under/Over Temperature Limit Count: 0/0

SCT Temperature History Version: 2
Temperature Sampling Period: 1 minute
Temperature Logging Interval: 1 minute
Min/Max recommended Temperature: 0/60 Celsius
Min/Max Temperature Limit: -40/65 Celsius
Temperature History Size (Index): 128 (105)

Index Estimated Time Temperature Celsius
106 2023-02-18 17:47 32 *************
107 2023-02-18 17:48 31 ************
... ..( 10 skipped). .. ************
118 2023-02-18 17:59 31 ************
119 2023-02-18 18:00 30 ***********
120 2023-02-18 18:01 31 ************
121 2023-02-18 18:02 30 ***********
122 2023-02-18 18:03 31 ************
123 2023-02-18 18:04 30 ***********
124 2023-02-18 18:05 30 ***********
125 2023-02-18 18:06 30 ***********
126 2023-02-18 18:07 31 ************
... ..( 23 skipped). .. ************
22 2023-02-18 18:31 31 ************
23 2023-02-18 18:32 30 ***********
... ..( 16 skipped). .. ***********
40 2023-02-18 18:49 30 ***********
41 2023-02-18 18:50 29 **********
42 2023-02-18 18:51 30 ***********
... ..( 3 skipped). .. ***********
46 2023-02-18 18:55 30 ***********
47 2023-02-18 18:56 29 **********
... ..( 16 skipped). .. **********
64 2023-02-18 19:13 29 **********
65 2023-02-18 19:14 30 ***********
66 2023-02-18 19:15 29 **********
67 2023-02-18 19:16 30 ***********
68 2023-02-18 19:17 30 ***********
69 2023-02-18 19:18 29 **********
70 2023-02-18 19:19 30 ***********
... ..( 11 skipped). .. ***********
82 2023-02-18 19:31 30 ***********
83 2023-02-18 19:32 31 ************
... ..( 19 skipped). .. ************
103 2023-02-18 19:52 31 ************
104 2023-02-18 19:53 32 *************
105 2023-02-18 19:54 32 *************

SCT Error Recovery Control:
Read: Disabled
Write: Disabled

Device Statistics (GP/SMART Log 0x04) not supported

SATA Phy Event Counters (GP Log 0x11)
ID Size Value Description
0x0001 2 0 Command failed due to ICRC error
0x0002 2 0 R_ERR response for data FIS
0x0003 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host data FIS
0x0004 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device data FIS
0x0005 2 0 R_ERR response for non-data FIS
0x0006 2 0 R_ERR response for device-to-host non-data FIS
0x0007 2 0 R_ERR response for host-to-device non-data FIS
0x0009 2 3747 Transition from drive PhyRdy to drive PhyNRdy
0x000a 2 5 Device-to-host register FISes sent due to a COMRESET
0x000b 2 0 CRC errors within host-to-device FIS
0x000d 2 0 Non-CRC errors within host-to-device FIS

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:48 am**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm...I thought it was the same as the QSI...

The one I mentioned previously is this, as an alternative and easy way (and a new feature of QSI) :

When you open the QSI click the menu (where the pointer is in the below picture) then select minstall.log

(...again, after the issue appears.. otherwise no such info will be there) :

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:26 am**

From the S.M.A.R.T. report, the only thing that may need attention is this:

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UDMA_CRC_Error_Count -O-R-- 200 200 000 - 1

This indicates that there was an error in the data feed to the hard drive. If this was a desktop, I'd recommend that the data cable be replaced, however, since it's a laptop, it might be enough to remove the hard drive, clean the contacts on both the cable and the hard drive with some rubbing alcohol on a QTip and then firmly reseat the hard drive.

This is also reported:

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G-Sense_Error_Rate -O-R-- 099 099 000 - 2

This states that there were two errors due to external vibration. But, these can be discounted because it's a mechanical drive in a ten year old laptop and there are going to be some vibrations as a matter of course.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:39 pm**

Grazie,
This is what I see when I open the QSI. If I tick the small blue icon in the upper left corner it opens up a drop down list and its set to '"Open Same As other windows"
I'm considering buying a NEW thumbdrive today and downloading it again.
PLEEZE supply the exact link.
When I plug the thumbdrive into my Windows puter a red line appears across the entire properties tab and says there is like 14kb of space remaining "a hairline of space." This is a 16GB thumbdrive why is it nearly maxxed out of space I wonder?
Don't know what the red line indicates???

QSI_2023-02-19_12-33-30.png

I'll remove the hdd and clean and make certain its secure.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:45 pm**

Click Copy for forum.

reply here, click CTRL V. Submit.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:49 pm**

Ah, your QSI version is just a bit 1-2 versions back, that's why no such menu..

Simply issue the command in a terminal :

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sudo featherpad /var/log/minstall.log

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:54 pm**

This is the latest MX 21.3 , updated on Feb 15 (just for you asked) :

http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... ry_x64.iso

... And the sha512 file to check if you can:

http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... iso.sha512

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:08 pm**

When I Paste this into the Terminal. Note the attachement is what I get.

Terminal2023-02-19_13-01-24.png

sudo featherpad /var/log/minstall.log

This I'd use for the download/install correct? http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... iso.sha512 cause thats what it looks like when I open it.
Huck! do you feel the hdd is bad and needs replacement at this time?
Thank You both

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:12 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:45 pm Click Copy for forum.

reply here, click CTRL V. Submit.

System: Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 [5.10.158-2] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
Desktop: Xfce 4.18.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15 2023
base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter>
Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70
date: 04/15/2013
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8
min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full
CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9578
Speed: 2095 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2095 2: 2095
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6")
diag: 394mm (15.5")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5
compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes
Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel
port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel
modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 611.1 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400
serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive
size: 14.92 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 1100 scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition: Message: No partition data found.
Swap: Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1967 lib: 989 flatpak: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info: Processes: 198 Uptime: 1h 9m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (43.1%)
Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A
alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:14 pm**

The pw. is demo on live session, just enter that . (But again, it will show the info regarding the issue only after it occurs, cause it writes it step by step what happened when etc.. only after that happens..)

The hdd is not bad, I also have another idea (we'll go on)

Download clicking the 1st link , the sha512 is just to check whether the iso is correct (true/genuine) and whether it was downloaded successfully, every bit ..

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:38 pm**

Can i check the remaining space on the current thumbdrive?
If 21.3 requires about 2GB why would a 16GB thumbdrive be almost totally used space wise?
Thank you!
Huck did you notice the attachment in Post # 85? I guess its a older version according to Eadwine Rose. Hmm?!

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:43 pm**

What older version are you talking about?

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:49 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:43 pm What older version are you talking about?

You said you thought it was a step or two behind from the attachment I showed of what I have and what Huck showed that's all. It looks to be a bit more friendly finding the logs in question.
Thank You!!!

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:52 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:38 pm Can i check the remaining space on the current thumbdrive?
If 21.3 requires about 2GB why would a 16GB thumbdrive be almost totally used space wise?
Thank you!
Huck did you notice the attachment in Post # 85? I guess its a older version according to Eadwine Rose. Hmm?!

It could be on its last legs. Thumb drives generally don't have the longevity of an installed HDD or SSD.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:04 pm**

I don't think I said that? *scratches head*

This whole topic's gotten me confused...

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:15 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:04 pm I don't think I said that? *scratches head*

This whole topic's gotten me confused...

I hear you loud and clear!

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:18 pm**

The only thing I said somewhere was you could DL a newer version of 21.3, which is the snapshot that Adrian makes each month, Feb's one.

But given how much trouble you are having, I am not even gonna suggest that one for you anymore.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:22 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:18 pm The only thing I said somewhere was you could DL a newer version of 21.3, which is the snapshot that Adrian makes each month, Feb's one.

But given how much trouble you are having, I am not even gonna suggest that one for you anymore.

One step at a time!

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:46 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:54 pm This is the latest MX 21.3 , updated on Feb 15 (just for you asked) :

http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... ry_x64.iso

... And the sha512 file to check if you can:

http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... iso.sha512

Is a 16GB Thumbdrive big enough?

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:36 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:46 pm
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:54 pm This is the latest MX 21.3 , updated on Feb 15 (just for you asked) :

http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... ry_x64.iso

... And the sha512 file to check if you can:

http://it.mxrepo.com/Downloads/Snapshot ... iso.sha512
Is a 16GB Thumbdrive big enough?

That's plenty big enough. It's also about the smallest capacity drive that you'll be able to find these days.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:31 pm**

Question:
When I did the first download and install I had a working MX-18.
Can I use my Windows machine to download a NEW ISO for MX-21.3 and then use in the intended computer?
I did get the download done on the MX-18/MX21.3 computer but its only a Live version.
Not sure what will happen if I pull the thumb drive out and try to create the ISO? I assume it would crash.
At any rate if I shut down the MX-18/MX21.3 computer I'll lose the latest MX-21.3 download I'm guessing.
Suggestion about the best way to start this to minimize any errors this time.
Thank You,
Raphael

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:32 pm**

Certainly. Download the ISO to Windows and then also download a utility called Rufus from this link:

https://rufus.ie/en/

You will use Rufus to write the ISO to the USB drive. Using Rufus is pretty straight forward. Just remember to select GPT under Partition Scheme. Otherwise just accept the defults.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:24 pm**

Hallo~

rufus page1.jpg

I'm using the Portable version 3.21.
How much time should it take to get to next window of rufus? it doesn't appear to be doing anything yet. See attachment. Just one quick line ran across the bottom where is says READY.
It appears it started on its own..but none the choices are working in the any of the windows yet. Like the Partition where you said to enter GPT
Dunno how these apps works Sorry!
Thank You!

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:31 pm**

Close Rufus, insert the USB drive into the Windows computer and then launch Rufus again.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:36 pm**

Feeling a bit silly about now.
Is the GPT the only thing I need to change before Starting? Like Cluster size or Target, etc.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:48 pm**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:36 pm Feeling a bit silly about now.
Is the GPT the only thing I need to change before Starting? Like Cluster size or Target, etc.

That's the only change you have to make. just accept all the other default settings and click on Start at the bottom. depending on the speed of your Windows box, it should take 10 - 15 minutes to complete. If it finishes quicker than that, so much the better.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:58 pm**

Thank You so much for all your help! Your awesome... like so many other kind souls on this forum.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:38 pm**

Latest QSI after getting Warning window. It appears to be stuck like before.
Installation in progress 12% - Formatting: / (root)
Snapshot created on: 20230215_1806
System: Kernel: 5.10.0-21-amd64 [5.10.162-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash
Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7
dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower February 15 2023
base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter>
Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70
date: 04/15/2013
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8
min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full
CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9579
Speed: 818 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 818 2: 822
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6")
diag: 394mm (15.5")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5
compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-21-amd64 running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes
Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel
port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel
modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 625.08 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (0.3%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400
serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB model: USB DISK 3.0 size: 28.91 GiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: GPT
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Swap: Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1967 lib: 990 flatpak: 0
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info: Processes: 180 Uptime: 6m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 934.7 MiB (16.1%)
Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A
alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:49 pm**

So fine :)

Just click "Install" and if you like only select the auto installation.

Then in case it gets stuck again: either the command above, or QSI and select minstall.log (then copy-paste here), (as in posts #72 and 79)

Also during installation click the "Live Log" tab on left pane and follow (copy-paste here if needed, copy especially beginning from last lines when it gets stuck).

Any time it asks for password (say in a terminal) : demo

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:06 pm**

This is right after the Warning There is no choice in the QSI window I've been getting all along for minstall.log As your post showed!

Code: Select all

Snapshot created on: 20230215_1806
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-21-amd64 [5.10.162-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower February 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 
           date: 04/15/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9579 
           Speed: 985 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 985 2: 1010 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-21-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel 
           port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel 
           modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 625.08 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (0.3%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB model: USB DISK 3.0 size: 28.91 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: GPT 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1967 lib: 990 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 201 Uptime: 45m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (43.1%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:08 pm**

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sudo featherpad /var/log/minstall.log

You can copy-paste press Enter in a terminal. Pw is demo

(In the meantime it's 04:10 AM here) :)

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:14 pm**

It gave me a message saying: Warning Potentially Unsafe Paste - "Pasting this text to the terminal as it may be dangerous as it looks like some commands me be executed"

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Snapshot created on: 20230215_1806
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-21-amd64 [5.10.162-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower February 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C855 v: PSCBLU-01L003 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: MP serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 6.70 
           date: 04/15/2013 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 49.1/47.5 Wh (103.4%) volts: 10.8 
           min: 10.8 model: PA5024U-1BRS type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Pentium B980 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 2 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 9579 
           Speed: 985 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 985 2: 1010 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Toshiba driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0106 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-21-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8162 Fast Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel 
           port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1090 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel 
           modules: wl port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8176 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 625.08 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (0.3%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB model: USB DISK 3.0 size: 28.91 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: GPT 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1967 lib: 990 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 201 Uptime: 45m wakeups: 2 Memory: 5.69 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (43.1%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:20 pm**

Warning_2023-02-19_20-18-48.png

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:27 pm**

Get some rest...
Can't understand WHY this is happening???
I'm going to stop for tonight Huck.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:33 pm**

LIVE LOG_2023-02-19_20-32-11.png

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:36 pm**

here's the top half.

LIVE logtop_2023-02-19_20-34-08.png

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:08 am**

So, it creates the efi partition successfully then passes to sda2 as the root partition and cannot format that (For whatever reason).

Yes , sda is :

/dev/sda Hitachi model: HTS541064A9E680 size: 596.17 GiB
block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400
serial: <filter> rev: A480 scheme: GPT

Just: have you tried custom installation (the default one) ?

(You can first create partitions with GParted)

(Just to make sure whether it's something with the auto-installer, that maybe a good feedback btw.)

In the worst case: We can create 2-3 small partitions and then scan with badblocks first, then custom install there without re-formatting (on purpose) (also "small partitions" "purposely" just to make it quick to scan..)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:32 am**

My $.02. What Huckleberry Finn is proposing here will be a great learning experience for you. But at the end, even if it's successful, you are still going to have a hard drive that needs imminent replacement because its bad blocks are no longer being reallocated to new ones. If this were not the case, the bad blocks would have automatically replaced with some of the blocks held in reserve and the installer would have been able to format the partition successfully. I think that it's time to cut your losses and buy a new SSD so that you can get this upgrade to MX 21 completed.

edited for spelling

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:59 am**

When you go to the store, there will likely be three main brands of SSD available: Kingston, Western Digital, and Samsung. Kingston SSDs will be the lowest priced of the three but also the lowest quality. For reference, here's what an SSD that will fit your laptop looks like:

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=221045

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:39 pm**

j2mcgreg wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:25 pm My best guess is that the laptop's hard drive is shot. If the log that Huckleberry Finn has requested you post confirms this, here's how to replace it with a new one:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Toshiba+Sa ... ent/108390

On your laptop, this is a dead easy task. FWIW, a 250 GB Western Digital SSD is $40.00 CDN here in Toronto and I expect that it will be about the same price in Vermont.

What else do I need to do other than replace it? It's just a matter of removing a few screws? I had another hdd but its only 160GB and it was in another Toshiba laptop.
i can find one of those hdd you suggested for about 30$ US.
Why are you so convinced that the existing hdd is shot? Typically in Windows when they get bad there are alot of Bad sectors to the point where you can even run a CHKDSK..very slow loading anything, etc..you know the routine. I don't mind a bit more effort into this. but not another afternoons worth if at all possible.
Thanks again.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:48 pm**

Ok. Ralph told me he wanted to try a straightforward "custom" installation.. And let's try it.

Ralph:

Can you open "GParted" from menu on live session, then maximize the window and take a screenshot?

Edit: The screenshot utiliy is in menu (it "was" on panel also (iirc) in previous releases)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:01 pm**

@Gigahenry007 wrote:

Why are you so convinced that the existing hdd is shot? Typically in Windows when they get bad there are alot of Bad sectors to the point where you can even run a CHKDSK..very slow loading anything, etc..you know the routine. I don't mind a bit more effort into this. but not another afternoons worth if at all possible.

By switching to a new USB drive, downloading the ISO multiple times and switching to Rufus as the usb drive creator, you have eliminated all three of these as the possible point of failure. The only component left is the hard drive because it's the static common element in all the previous failures.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:12 pm**

@Gigahenry007 wrote:

What else do I need to do other than replace it? It's just a matter of removing a few screws?

all you have to do is follow this guide:

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Toshiba+Sa ... ent/108390

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:40 pm**

Gpart_2023-02-20_14-34-01.png

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:12 pm**

Ok, though there are exclamation marks:

Right-click on sda3: Delete

click the "Apply" button above (the check-mark icon)

Then do the same on sda2

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:20 pm**

done
You need a screenshot?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:29 pm**

Ok, if it's done without any errors etc. then it's ok.

Now, just to make it clean:

Right-click on sda1 : "format to" .. select fat32 .. "Apply".

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:33 pm**

Done!

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:36 pm**

here is what i see now

Gparted_2023-02-20_14-34-01.png

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:41 pm**

So fine :)

Now: Right-click on that grey area (or the "unallocated" line): "New"

Click the "New Size" box (or you can use the tab key) : 20480

(it's already ext4 by default..) ... "Add" , click Apply.

(A 20 GiB partition for now, quick to scan ...)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:53 pm**

I see this (it's already ext4 by default..) ... "Add" , click Apply.

Do I need to Enter this somewhere? (A 20 GiB partition for now, quick to scan ...) Various empty boxes to fill perhaps?

GpartedA_2023-02-20_15-49-09.png

(A 20 GiB partition for now, quick to scan ...)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:56 pm**

Just hit the tab key once and enter 20480

in New Size box, click the Add button (bottom-right corner) then click Apply.

(Any time you get confused you can click "Cancel" then re-do)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:02 pm**

OK! doctor!
Next step or would you like a screenshot?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:07 pm**

GpartedB_2023-02-20_16-06-18.png

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:12 pm**

Superb.

But.. the size is 595 GiB

In the meantime it formatted the whole 595 GiB successfully (unlike the installer, no errors)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:16 pm**

Hurray!
Now what?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:16 pm**

In fact, you can even try to install with this.

The small partition notion is just to have a scan it first, it's not a must...

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:18 pm**

You also don't have a swap partition at the moment..

But if you like only , you can try to install, close this and click the installation...

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:22 pm**

whats the pros and cons of a Swap partition. Can we create one later if needed?
And your saying from where I am now try to do another install. Do I need to shut down?
I know its getting a bit late for you.
HOW DO YOU LEARN ALL THIS STUFF?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:23 pm**

Would auto install work now that all is spic and span?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:25 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:23 pm Would auto install work now that all is spic and span?

Good point!

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:27 pm**

Swap can be created later but with this layout you'll need to open space first .. It's best (simplest) to do it from the very beginning.

You can try installation any time you like now.. either right now (after closing GParted) or any time later.

Just choose the custom install (the default one already)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:28 pm**

Yes, but we're doing these just for auto installation failed several times (sadly).

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:31 pm**

It says a root partition of at least 5.1 gb is required. JUst tick OK?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:33 pm**

I was just writing that:

click the sda2 cell under "Use For" column and select "root"

Something like this:

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:36 pm**

... Then just go on next , next (as you already don't have other partitions, home, boot, swap etc...)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:41 pm**

GpartedC_2023-02-20_16-38-32.png

Tick Ok first to do the next step >root

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:45 pm**

Yes, just click the cell under the "ESP" then a tiny menu appears: select root

(First close the warning, can click "ok")

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:49 pm**

sda1 ESP
sda2 root

"Next" ...

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:53 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:49 pm sda1 ESP
sda2 root

"Next" ...

These actions cannot be undone. Do you want to continue?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:54 pm**

Yes. (It warns cause it'll format the ext4 once more. It says: "Think once more for the last time if you have data etc.")

Just go on :)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:59 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:54 pm Yes. (It warns cause it'll format the ext4 once more. It says: "Think once more for the last time if you have data etc.")

Just go on :)

Paused at 94% so I just tick Next correct?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:00 pm**

Yep. It just waits for the user to reply/confirm ...

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:04 pm**

... In case (hopefully) the installation finishes successfully, don't forget to detach the usb stick before the reboot (it'll tell you that).

(Otherwise it'll boot the live usb rather than the installed MX on hdd)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:06 pm**

I always close the installer properly, and shut the system down. Then once off I remove the USB, and then start things up again. That way I know 100% certain that I have taken it out at a proper time :)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:08 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:00 pm Yep. It just waits for the user to reply/confirm ...

Can I still check Auto login?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:11 pm**

Yep, me, too, exactly ( @Eadwine Rose )

@Gigahenry007 Yep, just check it but also set pw. both for root and user (they can be the same if you like, to not forget the root's later)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:27 pm**

Success! Thank You beyond words... It seems in this case there was something "buggy" in the Installer.?
I'd like use Google Chrome if possible? If I knew what features Chromium aka Slimjet offers in comparison I wouldn't mind a browser that is lighter resource wise.
I do use Google Voice to make rare calls but mostly so that I can text people using the computer instead of a cell.
I assume if I do install Google Chrome it will be saved correct?
Must admit this has been quite an adventure and I am amazed how you get so refined at this. Whats the secrets?
There are 23 Updates showing and assume I need to install them
Sincerely Yours,
little ralphie

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:31 pm**

Yes, of course you can install whatever you like :)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:33 pm**

Both GParted and MX Installer "Custom" were able to format with no issues.

So, I still guess there might be a bug about the auto-installer, cause the partition was still labelled MX18 and the other one was unknown etc...

Yep, update all :)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:36 pm**

In fact, my plan was a bit different, I just wanted to not confuse you more and more..

Any time you like we can create a swap partition (just in case) and more important, we can scan the partition (but since it's about 600 GB it'll take "hours" , that's why I was thinking about a small partition :) )

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:41 pm**

I can't Authenticate the upgrade with demo or root. Says it a failure using either of those

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:43 pm**

No, it's your user pw. now on the installed system (the one you entered during installation)

(demo and root are just on live session, with the official iso)

Let's say your user name is ralph :

Enter ralph's pw.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:46 pm**

You mean the Default or the Root PW?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:48 pm**

Just the user's pw. (that's requested by default on MX21, root's was the default on previous releases, MX19 and before...)

Shortly, whenever you see an authentication dialog (also in terminal for sudo) just enter your user pw.

(In case root's pw. is requested particularly, it'll tell you that .)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:56 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:48 pm Just the user's pw. (that's requested by default on MX21, root's was the default on previous releases, MX19 and before...)

Shortly, whenever you see an authentication dialog (also in terminal for sudo) just enter your user pw.

(In case root's pw. is requested particularly, it'll tell you that .)

You mean the password to login into the Forum? The default and roots are the only ones I wrote down.

I don't know what it is believe it or not???

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:59 pm**

No, there's nothing related to Forum.

Just the user on your installed MX (you entered a pw. when you entered a username for yourself during installation, right? )

(The "default user"s pw.)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:07 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:59 pm No, there's nothing related to Forum.

Just the user on your installed MX (you entered a pw. when you entered a username for yourself during installation, right? )

I did but in all the turmoil I can't recall what it was??? Oh No! I feel so foolish.
How or where can I find it?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:13 pm**

"MX User Manager" from menu (but that will also probably ask for the pw. to start)

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:21 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:13 pm "MX User Manager" from menu (but that will also probably ask for the pw. to start)

I'm very very sorry but everything I've entered has failed so far.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:26 pm**

Boot with live usb, then open "Chroot Rescue Scan" from menu

It'll find your installed MX, press Enter.. when you see this

chroot>

issue this command:

Code: Select all

mx-user

(Click the menu "select user to modify" ...) then enter a new pw. for that user (you).. Apply, close, shutdown.

Boot the installed MX.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:39 pm**

so I'm at: chroot> *mx-user *(which i typed it) do i hit enter or put the new password after mx-user?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:49 pm**

I'm at the MX User Manager window.
The second box down is Change User Password. It says: Select User to modify: none and I hit the drop down arrow it brings up root and ralphael. I should choose ralphael then enter the new PW and Confirm correct?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:16 pm**

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:27 am**

Once you are back in and have your user and root passwords again, it MIGHT be an idea to actually start using the root password for when it asks for the root password. You can change that behavior back to what you were used to.

When you start MX Tweak, and then go to the last tab, Other, in the bottom it says: password for administrative tasks: user / root.

You'll want to check root there instead of user.

Of course if it is easier for you to just use your user password for everything, just leave things alone. I, personally, found using the user pass for root stuff very confusing.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:19 am**

Gigahenry007 wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:49 pm... I should choose ralphael then enter the new PW and Confirm correct?

Yep (...then click "Apply"). You can do the same for root if you like while you're at it (if you forgot that, too).

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:02 am**

@Huckleberry Finn, my compliments! Giving up is not in your book haha.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:10 am**

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