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dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:08 pm updated my systemd_only and sysVinit_only spins to conform with mx23.2. link in first post.

Hi @dolphin_oracle:
I built a ParrotOS based respin with some MX tools, "https://sourceforge.net/projects/senpai ... rrotOS_MX/".
I would like to try to make it with MX base but ParrotOS only supports "Systemd".
My MX-23.2 respin only with Mate, I would like to convert it to one with only systemd, to do some testing of a Mate respin with this "https://gitlab.com/parrotsec/project/installer-script" to install ParrotOS and its privacy/security tools over MX base.

But my MX-Mate respins have sysvinit and systemd, how could I totally remove sysvinit, I don't have much idea about the "init".....

Best regards

Just that!
I will try it, thank you!

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:20 pm

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sudo apt install systemd-sysv

Thank you, dolphin_oracle
it worked, let's see how it looks

Best regards

So it's kinda easy on MX to end up with a systemd system.. does that mean that the SysV option is 'for show' and that the Debian base simply makes it too difficult? Or at least creates problems? I installed MX on an old Lenovo R500 and something happened, can't remember exactly, that required me to switch to systemd default boot. (It was not my machine so i could not keep maintaining it daily)

coyotito wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:46 am So it's kinda easy on MX to end up with a systemd system.. does that mean that the SysV option is 'for show' and that the Debian base simply makes it too difficult? Or at least creates problems? I installed MX on an old Lenovo R500 and something happened, can't remember exactly, that required me to switch to systemd default boot. (It was not my machine so i could not keep maintaining it daily)

debian doesn't make it particularly easy. but in my experience with the MX setup the one that tends to trip people up is the libvirt packages. the default depends tend to remove sysVinit, but there are alternate depends that our popular apps entry uses to get libvirt and virt-manager installed. apt will tell you when things are going to be removed, but many people don't pay attention to what apt is saying and go ahead. So nothing will be removed unless you say "yes".

technically sysVinit works better with the antiX live system. so its not "for show". I wouldn't waste my time for "show".

Hi:
I have Virt-manager installed from "Popular applications" and working perfectly with Sysvinit, it never gave me problems and I use it a lot..., and I never use MX, over Systemd, for me Sysvinit is faster.
When I uninstalled it for my respin with ParrotOS, I already saw all the work behind, impressive....

Best regards

Senpai wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:06 am Hi:
I have Virt-manager installed from "Popular applications" and working perfectly with Sysvinit, it never gave me problems and I use it a lot..., and I never use MX, over Systemd, for me Sysvinit is faster.
When I uninstalled it for my respin with ParrotOS, I already saw all the work behind, impressive....

Best regards

I'm not following this clearly ...

Are you saying that you've created a ParrotOS respin inside MX Linux without systemd, or that you installed systemd and have sysvinint working in virtual mode, or ?

Thanks.

kd4e wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:32 am

Senpai wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:06 am Hi:
I have Virt-manager installed from "Popular applications" and working perfectly with Sysvinit, it never gave me problems and I use it a lot..., and I never use MX, over Systemd, for me Sysvinit is faster.
When I uninstalled it for my respin with ParrotOS, I already saw all the work behind, impressive....

Best regards

I'm not following this clearly ...

Are you saying that you've created a ParrotOS respin inside MX Linux without systemd, or that you installed systemd and have sysvinint working in virtual mode, or ?

Thanks.

Sorry for my english translator....
Create a respin of MX-Mate by removing sysvinit as indicated in the previous messages, because ParrotOS only supports systemd, the ParrotOS installation is created from a scritp maintained by them in Gitlab. https://gitlab.com/parrotsec/project/installer-script
In my blog you have more detailed instructions. https://sourceforge.net/p/senpai-respin ... rrotos-60/
But basically it could be done with any other Debian-derived distro, better with a desktop compatible with ParrotOS, which at the moment in version 6.0 I think it is only Mate.

Best regards

OK, I sure appreciate the clarification.

I was hoping to hear that you found a way to make ParrotOS work without systemd.

Oh, well.

Thanks!