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Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:41 am
by nraygun
I have version 535 of the Nvidia driver loaded and it seems to be working OK.
Today's update is asking to install version 470 as follows:
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The following packages will be upgraded:
libegl-nvidia-tesla-470-0 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libgl1-nvidia-tesla-470-glvnd-glx (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libglx-nvidia-tesla-470-0 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-eglcore (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-glcore (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-glvkspirv (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-ml1 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-rtcore (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-alternative (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-driver (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-driver-bin (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-driver-libs (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-egl-icd (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-dkms (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-support (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-vdpau-driver (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-vulkan-icd (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-tesla-470 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
18 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 82.6 MB of archives.
How can I stay on 535 and not get these update notices? I already got burned last week by blindly upgrading based on what updater found.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:43 am
by Eadwine Rose
According to the forum rules (please read): Please provide full Quick System Info from the menu, use copy for forum button, no edits.
LiveUSB version is OK if needed.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:07 am
by MikeR
Try googling
"Linux how to prevent update of a specific package" (Lose the quote marks)
Or click here
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:10 am
by Eadwine Rose
Wrote that down
To hold a package, as root:
Result will say:
packagename set on hold.
Show all held packages, as root
Result will say:
packagename1
packagename 2
To remove the hold on a package, as root:
Not the solution here though.. I think.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:19 am
by oops
... Maybe you have to remove the MX ahs-staging repo. by default (I guess)... but need the Quick System Info from the menu to know.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:08 am
by Stevo
Why does your own output say nothing about 535, then, but just updating the installed 470? The update is to support 6.15 kernels for that specific driver; it's not in ahs-staging.
Again, and again, and again: QSI
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:54 am
by dolphin_oracle
nraygun wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:41 am
I have version 535 of the Nvidia driver loaded and it seems to be working OK.
Today's update is asking to install version 470 as follows:
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The following packages will be upgraded:
libegl-nvidia-tesla-470-0 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libgl1-nvidia-tesla-470-glvnd-glx (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libglx-nvidia-tesla-470-0 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-eglcore (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-glcore (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-glvkspirv (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-ml1 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
libnvidia-tesla-470-rtcore (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-alternative (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-driver (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-driver-bin (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-driver-libs (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-egl-icd (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-dkms (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-support (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-vdpau-driver (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
nvidia-tesla-470-vulkan-icd (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-tesla-470 (470.256.02-6~mx23ahs => 470.256.02-7~mx23ahs)
18 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 82.6 MB of archives.
How can I stay on 535 and not get these update notices? I already got burned last week by blindly upgrading based on what updater found.
these packages are clearly installed already. I don't think you have installed what you think you have installed.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:53 pm
by nraygun
QSI info below.
I got the version from the Nvidia Settings app. It also shows this version in nvidia-smi(see below).
For the "apt-mark hold packagename" would I have to do this one at a time for all 18 packages?
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System:
Kernel: 6.6.11-amd64 [6.6.11-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.6.11-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash iommu=pt
amd_iommu=on vfio-pci.ids= 1022:149c ipv6.disable=1 init=/lib/systemd/systemd
Desktop: N/A wm: xfwm v: 4.20.0 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.6_ahs_x64 Libretto
October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING X570-PLUS v: Rev X.0x serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4802 date: 06/15/2023
CPU:
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check
built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0
microcode: 0x8701030
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB
desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB desc: 2x16 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2200 min/max: 2200/4409 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
governor: schedutil cores: 1: 2200 2: 2200 3: 2200 4: 2200 5: 2200 6: 2200 7: 2200 8: 2200
9: 2200 10: 2200 11: 2200 12: 2200 bogomips: 91190
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection
Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling,
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nvidia v: 535.247.01
non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1c81
class-ID: 0300
Device-2: Logitech Logi Webcam C920e type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-2:3
chip-ID: 046d:08b6 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 92 s-size: 530x301mm (20.87x11.85") s-diag: 610mm (24")
Monitor-1: DVI-D-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77")
diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
API: OpenGL Message: Unable to show GL data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com. driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus-ID: 3-2:3 pcie: chip-ID: 046d:08b6 class-ID: 0102 gen: 3 serial: <filter> speed: 8 GT/s
lanes: 16 bus-ID: 08:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
Device-3: Logitech Logi Webcam C920e type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
API: ALSA v: k6.6.11-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: ASUSTeK RTL8111/8168/8411 driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
port: f000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Broadcom BCM20702A0 Bluetooth 4.0 type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:2
chip-ID: 0a5c:21e8 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.1
sub-v: 220e hci-v: 4.1 rev: 16e4
Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch sniff link-mode: peripheral accept
service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio, telephony
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 450.16 GiB (24.2%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Sabrent model: Rocket 4.0 1TB size: 931.51 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: RKT401.1 temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 QVO 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT
SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 931.26 GiB size: 915.57 GiB (98.31%) used: 450.16 GiB (49.2%) fs: ext4
block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 275 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 1 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 4 GiB used: 768 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0 C mobo: 35.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 33 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 917 fan-2: 846 fan-3: 918 fan-4: 0 fan-5: 2641 fan-6: 0 fan-7: 0
gpu: nvidia fan: 30%
Repos:
Packages: 3209 pm: dpkg pkgs: 3192 libs: 1768 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 17
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
3: deb [arch=amd64] https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/linux/stable/bookworm bookworm main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list
1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/google.asc] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onlyoffice.list
1: deb https://download.onlyoffice.com/repo/debian squeeze main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam-beta.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/steam-stable.list
1: deb [arch=amd64,i386 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/steam.gpg] https://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ stable steam
2: deb-src [arch=amd64,i386 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/steam.gpg] https://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ stable steam
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tailscale.list
1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/tailscale-archive-keyring.gpg] https://pkgs.tailscale.com/stable/debian bookworm main
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extrepo_librewolf.sources
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.sources
1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main
Info:
Processes: 357 Uptime: 2d 19h 49m wakeups: 0 Memory: 15.53 GiB used: 2.7 GiB (17.4%)
Init: systemd v: 252 target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers:
gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
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Mon Jul 21 16:04:10 2025
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 535.247.01 Driver Version: 535.247.01 CUDA Version: 12.2 |
|-----------------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU Name Persistence-M | Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap | Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. |
| | | MIG M. |
|=========================================+======================+======================|
| 0 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Off | 00000000:08:00.0 On | N/A |
| 30% 32C P0 N/A / 75W | 279MiB / 2048MiB | 1% Default |
| | | N/A |
+-----------------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes: |
| GPU GI CI PID Type Process name GPU Memory |
| ID ID Usage |
|=======================================================================================|
| 0 N/A N/A 2105 G /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg 177MiB |
| 0 N/A N/A 3006 G xfwm4 2MiB |
| 0 N/A N/A 3035 G .../.mount_nextclrqEoke/AppRun.wrapped 13MiB |
| 0 N/A N/A 758328 G ...d3d277d579b022fec268db522254da37c7d 80MiB |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:57 pm
by nraygun
MikeR wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:07 am
Try googling
"Linux how to prevent update of a specific package" (Lose the quote marks)
Or click here
LOL! I've done that to people myself!
I think there's a little more going on here. It's asking to update 470 but I have 535 installed per the Nvidia Settings app and nvidia-smi. I might have to clear out 535 and go back to 470 for the updates to work.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:19 pm
by Stevo
You don't need any updates with that 6.6 kernel. I would check with Synaptic or MXPI to make sure that nvidia-tesla-470-driver is not installed also, as the updater seems to show, and remove it there, along with all those other 470 packages.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:22 pm
by kmathern
I do see the "535.247.01" in the first line in QSI Graphics section.
Maybe post the output of this, it'll show all nvidia packages that are installed (might be some others than just the 470xx packages 18 shown as updates)
Also wonder about this in the QSI?
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API: OpenGL Message: Unable to show GL data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
The mesa-utils & mesa-utils-bin packages install glxinfo.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver [Solved]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:45 pm
by nraygun
I think I got it.
I did a "sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia", then a reboot. I think I got to nouveau drivers. I was expecting a terminal session.
I then used the Nvidia Driver Installer which installed just the 535 drivers. I think the 470 driver was out there from prior attempts to fix my system from the repo issue last week.
The notifier is not complaining anymore about updating 470 drivers. I'm guessing it would have updated the dormant 470 drivers.
I think I'm good.I fired up a game in Steam and it seems to work.
Thanks for steering me in the right direction everyone.
Re: Updater asking to install older Nvidia driver
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:22 pm
by Stevo
Yeah, I've been trying to get the 555 nvidia-driver from experimental to install on MX 23 AHS after backporting it, but something is blocking it from doing so from my local-apt-repo folder. We do have it working in MX 25 AHS to support 6.15 kernels, though.