I Have No Clue What I'm doing

[Randyghgu]

I've been at this game for the best part of 28 years running Linux on the Desktop, and on servers and I can emphatically say MX is hands down supremely better for Desktop use than is Debian.

The main point of difference folk tend to miss between these two is, we build on Debian Stable, therefore our packages may be older and seem to be a lesser offering, but if that's the way they see things, then they need to run something that better matches their desires. There's nothing wrong with using older progams if they fit your needs, and when you need something later, we have a means whereby that may be catered fro in our Package requests and out Testing Repos available through MXPI.

Reading into what you said, and correct me of I am wrong, you may have chosen to add the LXQT DE and somehow come to the point where something is not working as you'd expect?

Correction, I've always been LXqt, somehow it got the sound magically partially working, compared to the default LXDE that comes with MXlinux, where there is no sound, I made a Live Boot USB and somehow the sounds works W O N D E R F U L L Y only on the live boot usb, there is no problem's with it what so ever, but the minute I try to boot off the M.2 SSD, sound decides to jump out the window and never be seen again until i reinstall LXqt, where it partially comes back again.

[m_pav]

compared to the default LXDE that comes with MXlinux

That would be Xfce, KDE or Fluxbox depending on what ISO you downloaded. If your audio is not working properly directly after installation, then I suggest you spend time in that environment to get it sorted before you add another DE. I also suggest you obtain a QSI from a live session and another from the installed state so we have something to compare.

If you used our MX Live USB Maker to make a fully featured Live USB, then you can save content you create while running live into the ~/demo/Live-usb-files folder which resides on the Live USB, not ramspace. Content you save into this folder will persist across reboots and it will be accessible from the USB drive when plugged into another Debian based machine with UID = 1000

You may find it useful to learn how our persistence system works. You can add whatever you want, save it to a root or a root/home persistence and it will be usable on subsequent uses when the persistece option is chosen in the grub menus pre-boot, or it can be used in the unmodified state by usung it as a regular Live USB, it will not affect your persistence files.

[Randyghgu]

compared to the default LXDE that comes with MXlinux

That would be Xfce, KDE or Fluxbox depending on what ISO you downloaded. If your audio is not working properly directly after installation, then I suggest you spend time in that environment to get it sorted before you add another DE. I also suggest you obtain a QSI from a live session and another from the installed state so we have something to compare.

If you used our MX Live USB Maker to make a fully featured Live USB, then you can save content you create while running live into the ~/demo/Live-usb-files folder which resides on the Live USB, not ramspace. Content you save into this folder will persist across reboots and it will be accessible from the USB drive when plugged into another Debian based machine with UID = 1000

You may find it useful to learn how our persistence system works. You can add whatever you want, save it to a root or a root/home persistence and it will be usable on subsequent uses when the persistece option is chosen in the grub menus pre-boot, or it can be used in the unmodified state by usung it as a regular Live USB, it will not affect your persistence files.

you know what... just oof it at this point, I both appreciate and not appreciate everyone's help in this situation, but at this point it feels like you all are taking me on a while goose chase to fix an unfix-able problem and an idiot like me has to know when to give up and just deal what's he's got, so again both thanks and no thanks. I'll just deal with no sound on this computer, I believe most things I do with this laptop anyway that might require sound, could be done on my own phone.

[DukeComposed]

at this point it feels like you all are taking me on a while goose chase to fix an unfix-able problem and an idiot like me has to know when to give up and just deal what's he's got, so again both thanks and no thanks.

Well that escalated quickly. This thread went from tame to while in a heartbeat.

[m_pav]

@Randyghgu Nobody here is trying to send you on a wild goose chase. Fact is, going it alone with insufficient or errant information is the path to frustration and confusion, and it's why we place a MX Manual and a FAQ link on the Desktop and open the Welcome page.

Based on your response to CharlesV in post #8 of this thread, I responded above as if to one who had enough understanding on Linux to be able to interpret more directed content. If I have offended, you, please know that none was intended in my delivery, I was only trying to help.

Fact is, users with a little experience under their belt coming from other distros need to see at the page 4 onwards of the MX Tour, or at least have a quick squizz at the manual, but all too often, they jump in boots n all with hard done by processes that are common to most other distros and find themselves getting in a bind.

A Maserati drives very differently to a Ford, you can't just jump into a Maserati and drive it like you would a Ford. Conversely, the Maserati driver can not just jump into a Formula 1 Race car because they are so wildly different to the Maserati they're used to. In both sceanrios, the driver needs instruction ahead of time to avoid a wreck, and yet in both scenarios, the drivers will have to have been fairly well experienced.

MX is renown as the distro with the best documentation bar none, so if you neglected to check even the simplest form of onboard assistance we provide, how can we be reported as leading you on a goose chase?.

[DukeComposed]

@Randyghgu Nobody here is trying to send you on a wild goose chase. Fact is, going it alone with insufficient or errant information is the path to frustration and confusion

I think a couple of things are wrong here. While I always respect and often envy the seemingly endless patience of the MX devs and mods on this forum for helping users troubleshoot issues, OP here is profoundly confused about his mistaken belief regarding "the default LXDE that comes with MXlinux". Old-timers here know that official MX Linux ISOs don't come in an LXDE flavor. OP claims to be using a Raspberry Pi respin (#7) but the QSI suggests an x64 Intel Pentium Silver N5030 CPU. Either this belongs in the respin forum -- it's either an RPi repsin or an unofficial LXQt respin made by a user -- or a clearer understanding is warranted and, frankly, I don't expect to get one from someone who (a) abdicates responsibility by openly professing to have no clue what he's doing and (b) is this hostile to what has thus far been a routine and polite troubleshooting process.

So if this ascerbic blend of "thanks and no thanks" has been proffered, I suggest the devs and mods respect OP's wishes and save some of that patience for another user on different thread. I'd rather that than see this community's members -- valued members with a wealth of knowledge, skill, and experience -- continue to be slighted or abused.

I've received criticism for saying this in the past but I'll say it again: maybe Linux isn't a good choice for you. I'd rather OP go back to Windows than continue throwing a hissy fit here in the MX community. It may sound harsh, but the old quote still has merit: "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed." Linux is wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid. If not an audio snafu now, then some other pebble in tomorrow's shoe and I don't care to entertain this "how dare you ask me to work towards a solution with you" attitude we've seen thus far.

Edit: LXDE/LXQt typo

[j2mcgreg]

@Randyghgu
You could help clear up a lot of your and our confusion if you can tell us where you got the ISO.

[arjaybe]

@Randyghgu Nobody here is trying to send you on a wild goose chase ... If not an audio snafu now, then some other pebble in tomorrow's shoe and I don't care to entertain this "how dare you ask me to work towards a solution with you" attitude we've seen thus far.

Maybe the OP is just used to Windows forums, so they came in with their back up. They certainly weren't trying to help.

[Stevo]

If only we had telemetry built into MX Linux, like the big two do. Then we wouldn't need to keep asking for a QSI, since we'd already know all about their hardware...and e-mails...and browsing history...

[Eadwine Rose]

I would have one quarter the amount of posts that I have now