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Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:09 pm
by Antediluvian
CharlesV wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:51 am Now, go back in and change the settings to Never if you dont want it to sleep, etc etc..
Sorry, this old man needs some clarification. Go back in where? The Power Manager? Which tab (System, Display or both)?
CharlesV wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:51 am testing - you might want to set the "15 min" as mentioned above to say 5 min and see if your machine does it properly AND that you can come out of it properly... Then set it all to never and see how that works.
This is also the Power Manager, right? Which tab (System, Display or both)?

Does Presentation Mode need to be turned off for the system or display to automatically suspend?

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:16 pm
by CharlesV
Same place as making the initial changes. (ie xscreensaver and then in power manager )

Both Display and system.

Basically we are creating a new config WITH settings and then turning them off.

Presentation mode is a special mode that as I understand it, turns off
- Display Power Management
- Prevents screensaver from activating
- Prevents suspend and hibernation

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:35 pm
by Antediluvian
CharlesV wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:16 pm Basically we are creating a new config WITH settings and then turning them off.
Thanks!

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:52 pm
by lenalemon
@m_pav
The power supply is new, the graphics card is much newer than the board. The board is admittedly older, but as I wrote above, it has been running absolutely stable under Windows (on other hard drives that are not currently active) for months. I don't understand the other configuration you mentioned and I also want to run MX Linux in a stable manner in the version I have installed!

@CharlesV
I'll try to implement your suggestions and get back to you. Thanks!

Something else occurred to me: Since I'm switching from Windows and want to familiarize myself with Linux, I installed MX-Linux on a temporary SSD that is connected via a hot swap port. Maybe Linux can't handle it. I'll try deactivating hot swap in the BIOS to see if it runs more stable.

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:02 pm
by j2mcgreg
@lenalemon wrote:
Something else occurred to me: Since I'm switching from Windows and want to familiarize myself with Linux, I installed MX-Linux on a temporary SSD that is connected via a hot swap port. Maybe Linux can't handle it. I'll try deactivating hot swap in the BIOS to see if it runs more stable.
That could be it. Hot swap in Linux can be very hit and miss.

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:11 am
by lenalemon
As far as the energy settings are concerned, I did everything as CharlesV said and then deactivated energy saving completely. Then I noticed that the screen still turned off after 10 minutes. So there must be another setting besides the xscreensaver and power manager settings that I don't know about. What could that be?
I also deactivated hot swap in the BIOS.
The problem seems to be a little better at the moment but the crashes still occur.
I would like to deactivate energy saving completely and don't know where the settings are or what needs to be deactivated.

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:23 am
by j2mcgreg
lenalemon wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:11 am As far as the energy settings are concerned, I did everything as CharlesV said and then deactivated energy saving completely. Then I noticed that the screen still turned off after 10 minutes. So there must be another setting besides the xscreensaver and power manager settings that I don't know about. What could that be?
I also deactivated hot swap in the BIOS.
The problem seems to be a little better at the moment but the crashes still occur.
I would like to deactivate energy saving completely and don't know where the settings are or what needs to be deactivated.
Forget hot swap altogether. Your Sandisk EMTEC X150 120GB SSD needs to be connected directly to one of the six SATA ports that you have onboard. See here (page 31 of the PDF) for their location:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/L ... 87_PRO.pdf

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 5:08 am
by lenalemon
I have now connected the hard drive directly and performed a new installation, implemented all the settings mentioned, but it still crashes.
I have observed the crashing behavior again closely: If I do nothing on the Internet, especially if I don't open Firefox, it runs stable. It became unstable when using the package manager, but mainly because of Firefox (hardware acceleration is switched off). For example, when playing a YouTube video, sometimes (not always) the system freezes and can no longer be operated. If I run Windows with my hardware as an alternative, everything is stable with the latest Firefox.
So it could have something to do with the Linux graphics driver, but that's just a guess. I'm pretty frustrated at the moment and can hardly believe there's a solution. I'm thinking about installing the whole thing in Virtual Box, but that's only a stopgap solution for me.

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:09 am
by CharlesV
As a test, install a liquorix kernel, we have found them to be very stable and resolve quite a few issues. I would suggest a 6.4 or 6.5 liquorix kernel as lighter for your machine.

Re: MX Linux keeps crashing

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:45 am
by lenalemon
Hello, installing the liquorix kernel didn't help either, it was unchanged afterwards.
However, I did install the AHS package with the 6.12.8-1-liquorix - amd64 kernel. After that, it ran stable for a while until the update packages reset something and it crashed again straight after.
In the package manager, under Kernel, there is a note that you should activate ahs for automatic updates. Can someone please tell me how to do this so that I don't go back to the normal version?