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Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:32 pm**

a few days ago following instructions on this forum I installed firefox 135 on my MX 19.4. now I have no audio when I click on videos. what to do? I mistakenly installed 32 bit on my 64bit system, but firefox seems to be working quickly and smoothly. just no audio.

Posted: **Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:39 pm**

Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )

You might try uninstalling the 32bit and then install 64bit

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:06 am**

CharlesV wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:39 pm Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )

You might try uninstalling the 32bit and then install 64bit

This. Install the correct version. TBH, IDK why this even is a question, though.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:17 pm**

OK guys. Here is my qsi:

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System:    Kernel: 4.19.0-27-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-27-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.14.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 4286CTO v: ThinkPad X220 serial: <filter> 
           Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 4286CTO serial: <filter> UEFI-[Legacy]: LENOVO 
           v: 8DET63WW (1.33 ) date: 07/19/2012 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 64.5 Wh (96.0%) condition: 67.2/85.9 Wh (78.3%) volts: 12.1 
           min: 10.8 model: SANYO 45N1175 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Not charging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-2520M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 2A (42) stepping: 7 microcode: 2F cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19935 
           Speed: 1143 MHz min/max: 800/3200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1143 2: 1106 3: 1110 
           4: 1087 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected 
           Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: 
           conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0126 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Chicony Lenovo Integrated Camera (0.3MP) type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
           bus-ID: 1-1.6:4 chip-ID: 04f2:b217 class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.14.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1600x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 423x238mm (16.7x9.4") 
           s-diag: 485mm (19.1") 
           Monitor-1: VGA-1 res: 1600x900 hz: 60 dpi: 94 size: 434x236mm (17.1x9.3") 
           diag: 494mm (19.4") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1c20 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.0-27-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 12.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k 
           port: 5080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           modules: wl port: efa0 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:0085 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 117.68 GiB (25.3%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 3B6Q scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 463.73 GiB size: 455.38 GiB (98.20%) used: 117.68 GiB (25.8%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3120 
Repos:     Packages: 2313 note: see --pkg apt: 2307 lib: 1192 flatpak: 6 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list 
           1: deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 242 Uptime: 1h 34m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 3.71 GiB (48.3%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 
           alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in default: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: quick-system-in 
           inxi: 3.3.06

How do I uninstall FF? Also, I've already forgotten how I was instructed to get new FF version from MX website and use it. BTW after I installed FF 135 32bit I noticed that my History was retained, as well as the passwords I have saved for various websites, etc. If I uninstall FF 135 32bit so as to be able to install FF 135 64bit, will that blow all that away?

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:39 pm**

you should save out all your ff data that you want, just in case.. but typically all of your data will be left in ~/.mozilla/firefox/{your profile}

to uninstall:

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sudo apt remove firefox

to install:

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sudo apt install firefox

you can then verify which is installed with

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apt list firefox

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:06 pm**

Wow, I don't even remember if apt had replaced apt-get yet in MX 19. If not, just replace "apt" with "apt-get".

But you can directly download and install the latest amd64 deb from the MX repo. MX 21 and 23 packages are essentially the same in this case, because we don't build those from source.

https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/f/firefox/

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:08 pm**

thanks! when I remove the 32bit FF 135 will I lose my history and stored passwords or will they remain somewhere and be picked up by the FF 135 64bit?

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:25 pm**

Seeker wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:08 pm thanks! when I remove the 32bit FF 135 will I lose my history and stored passwords or will they remain somewhere and be picked up by the FF 135 64bit?

Setup your current Firefox to Sync. IIRC the cloud will hold all that info for your reinstall. I use it and see it working for passwords, bookmarks, and toolbar links. The sync setup page will show you what is synched.

After reinstalling setup Firefox to Sync with the same account. It takes a minute or so to pull everything in. I've done this many times here on several PCs.

Posted: **Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:38 pm**

Seeker wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:08 pm thanks! when I remove the 32bit FF 135 will I lose my history and stored passwords or will they remain somewhere and be picked up by the FF 135 64bit?

All of those are stored in the hidden .mozilla folder in your home directory, which will not be affected by the removal and reinstall. But you really should be also archiving it into a tar.gz file or something, as part of a normal backup of things you don't want to risk losing. Or do full backups, too.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:03 pm**

I downloaded the MX 135.01 amd64bit for MX 21. But when I went into xfce terminal emulator to remove my current FF, I was not able to enter my admin password after I entered the command sudo apt remove firefox. i typed it in but nothing appeared on screen. where do I go to enter the sudo command? also, once I've removed FF, do I just right click on the downloaded FF file, which is in my downloads folder, and choose the first option? thanks.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:10 pm**

You might be better off to use mx package Installer to install the latest firefox.

You also might be able to uninstall firefox in mx package manager too. search for firefox, change to the enabled repos tab find where it shows firefox is installed, check it and then uninstall.

Not sure why your not seeing anything on the sudo apt... it should prompt for your password and if you entered it correctly (and your user has sudo rights), then it should then do the uninstall.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:35 pm**

And when you type in the password nothing will show. If that is what is being spoken of.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:52 pm**

CharlesV wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:10 pm You might be better off to use mx package Installer to install the latest firefox.

You also might be able to uninstall firefox in mx package manager too. search for firefox, change to the enabled repos tab find where it shows firefox is installed, check it and then uninstall.

Not sure why your not seeing anything on the sudo apt... it should prompt for your password and if you entered it correctly (and your user has sudo rights), then it should then do the uninstall.

Sorry CharlesV, none of that is going to help in this case because user "Seeker" is using MX-19.4 as stated in his Posts #1 and #4. MX-19 only has Firefox 127.0.2 as the latest version. And that 127.0.2 version is no longer even available in MX-19.4, at least not in the testing I have done using two MX-19 repositories (Alblasserdam, NL and Salt Lake City, UT) in two different MX-19 installations. MXPI will not even update the MXPI listing (using the same two different repositories) in testing just now.

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In my testing there was no need to uninstall Firefox, just install the updated Debian file and it will write over the old Firefox in /opt/firefox/. It works perfectly fine, at least for me.

To install the newer Firefox Debian file, right-click on the Debian file and choose either the first (top) or last (bottom) "Install Deb Files" Thunar Custom Action. The bottom "Install Deb Files" option will install using the Terminal and the top Debian installation custom action will open a GUI window to install (the same GUI window will appear if you double-click the .deb file). You want the 64-bit Firefox file so ensure that the ending of that Debiain file is ...amd64.deb. The problem you had earlier is you installed the 32-bit version, and that ends in i386.deb which is NOT the file to use.

I made two posts about installing the latest Firefox version in MX-19.4 Xfce just a few days ago. One was specifically for you. Both gave clear and detailed information on how to do this.

The two posts are listed below. Please read/study them.

viewtopic.php?p=810026#p810026
Title "Updating Firefox in MX-19", my post #6 dated 14 February 2025.
This post contains a Screenshow of what may happen on the first launch of Firefox after the new version is installed.
viewtopic.php?p=810065#p810065
This is the thread you created on 7 February 2025, titled "need help upgrading from 19.4 by fresh install". This link will open on my Post #17, made 14 February 2025, which details exactly how to install the newer Firefox version.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:01 pm**

you are correct. my apologies.. I saw mx21 and didnt check further.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:04 pm**

thanks all. to stuart m: when I right click on the 64bit version (in my downloads folder--er, directory) I put in my admin password after the box appears that asks for it, but then in the install window I get message that there is a conflict with the existing 32 bit version that I had mistakenly installed (which seems to work fine but does not play the audio of videos). and the install button does not "light up". so I have first to uninstall the 32bit bugger. Problem is: when I go to xfce terminal emulator window, I try to type in my admin password and nothing appears on the screen. what to do?

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:43 pm**

Seeker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:04 pm Problem is: when I go to xfce terminal emulator window, I try to type in my admin password and nothing appears on the screen. what to do?

Is this a problem? Do you have pwfeedback turned on in /etc/sudoers? and sudo still is failing? You test this by running "sudo whoami" and confirming that it says root:

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$ whoami
demo
$ sudo whoami
root

If you can still elevate to root, it doesn't really matter if your password shows up on the screen when you type or not.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:41 am**

Seeker wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:04 pm ...
Problem is: when I go to xfce terminal emulator window, I try to type in my admin password and nothing appears on the screen. what to do?

So does that mean that you "tried" to enter your password and since nothing was appearing on the screen as you typed your password that you just gave up and determined that nothing is happening?

Or did you enter your password and, even though nothing is appearing on the screen as you type, you continued to enter your password and then finish by pressing the "Enter" key?

"Eadwine Rose" addressed this very concern of yours in her Post #12 above, which was in reference to your earlier Post #10.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:13 pm**

hi stuart: here is my situation with xfce terminal emulator and inability to do sudo apt remove firefox:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ sudo apt remove firefox
[sudo] password for mesblvd: [here I typed in my pword, noting showed on screen, I then hit Enter]
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for mesblvd:

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:14 pm**

I used my admin password, which worked in the dialogue box when I right-clicked on the FF file to install it and got response that there is conflict with existing FF. So, I have to remove FF and I am getting very frustrated with MX

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:24 pm**

You use the user password when using sudo.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:19 pm**

Hi eadwinerose: I am confused (embarrassed, too--but hey, ignorance is bliss-No!). Is the "user password" the one I use each time I start my computer?

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:20 pm**

Okay, keeping it very simple, let's for the moment forget about uninstalling Firefox using the Terminal and the command sudo apt remove firefox (by the way that method works fine for me - I just finished testing in MX-19.4 Xfce). Use MXPI to uninstall Firefox, which will give the same results as the Terminal. Perhaps you will find this way easier.

Please do the following in your MX-19.4 Xfce to remove the 32-bit Firefox:

Open the MXPI (MX Package Installer).
On the "Popular Applications" tab in the MXPI window, expand the "Browser" categories.
Place a check-mark in the radio-button to the left of the "Firefox" entry as shown in the below image with a red rectangle around the firefox package you want to uninstall (the Screenshot was taken in my MX-19.4 installation):
FF_uninstall_via_MXPI.png
The "Uninstall" button on the lower-right of the MXPI window will become active as soon as you place the check-mark in the radio button as shown with a red arrow in the above image. Left-click this "Uninstall" button to uninstall Firefox.
Follow the prompts to uninstall Firefox.

Now follow the steps to install the latest Firefox 64-bit version (135.0.1 or whatever the latest version happens to be).

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:22 pm**

I tried my everyday password that I use each morning when I fire up my computer--did not work. tried again my admin password. didn't work and got message 3 failed attempts. so I gave up again and typed exit. what is going on?

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:34 pm**

The latest firefox for MX-19 is version 127.0.2. You must not have used synaptic or mx package installer to install firefox?
Firefox versions greater than 127.02 are not supported on MX-19/buster systems. This is a Mozilla not MX limitation.

-mike

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:41 pm**

this is what I get when I type whoami into the xfce terminal emulator:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ whoami
mesblvd
mesblvd@moach:~
$
I understand this means I am not root. how do I go to be root so I can enter my admin password and remove FF--or do anything else one needs to be root to do.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:00 pm**

OK. I am not sure what is going on. I finally got into the game as root in the xfce terminal emulator after using su command, put in my admin password and was recognized as root, then used the sudo command I learned in this forum, and removed the 32bit FF 135. Then I went to the downloaded 64 bit version, right clicked on that, used my admin/root pword and got the installation dialogue box and used that to install FF 135.0.1, which is up and running. seems fine, though when I first opened it I got message that FF is installing audio and video components or something like that. fingers crossed that I will now be able to watch youtube videos and hear the audio. Meanwhile, I pasted in below what appeared in the terminal emulator. Please let me know why it is that the system finally recognized me as root:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password:
su: Authentication failure
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password:
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package 'firefox' is not installed, so not removed. Did you mean 'firefox:i386'?
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
calibre-bin edid-decode fonts-mathjax gvfs-bin ipset libchm1 libdav1d4 libicu67 libipset11
libjs-coffeescript libjs-jquery libjs-mathjax libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore libmicrodns0
libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpodofo0.9.6 libvncclient1 libxcb-composite0
linux-headers-4.19.0-12-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-12-common linux-headers-4.19.0-13-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-13-common linux-headers-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-16-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-16-common linux-headers-4.19.0-17-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-17-common linux-headers-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-18-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-19-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-19-common linux-headers-4.19.0-20-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-20-common linux-headers-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-21-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-22-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-22-common linux-headers-4.19.0-23-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-23-common linux-headers-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-24-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-25-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-25-common linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-17-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-23-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-25-amd64 optipng
python-apsw python-cherrypy3 python-css-parser python-cssselect python-cssutils python-dateutil
python-feedparser python-html2text python-html5-parser python-markdown python-mechanize
python-msgpack python-netifaces python-pil python-pyparsing python-pyqt5.qtsvg
python-pyqt5.qtwebkit python-regex python-repoze.lru python-routes python3-pypdf2
vlc-plugin-access-extra xsel xsltproc
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
calibre-bin edid-decode fonts-mathjax glib-networking:i386 gvfs-bin ipset libaom0:i386
libasound2:i386 libatk-bridge2.0-0:i386 libatspi2.0-0:i386 libavcodec58:i386 libavutil56:i386
libcairo-gobject2:i386 libchm1 libcodec2-0.8.1:i386 libcolord2:i386 libcroco3:i386
libcrystalhd3:i386 libdav1d4 libepoxy0:i386 libgomp1:i386 libgsm1:i386 libgtk-3-0:i386 libicu67
libipset11 libjs-coffeescript libjs-jquery libjs-mathjax libjs-sphinxdoc libjs-underscore
libjson-glib-1.0-0:i386 liblcms2-2:i386 libmicrodns0 libmp3lame0:i386 libnuma1:i386 libogg0:i386
libopenjp2-7:i386 libopus0:i386 libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpodofo0.9.6 libproxy1v5:i386
libpsl5:i386 librest-0.7-0:i386 librsvg2-2:i386 libshine3:i386 libsnappy1v5:i386
libsoup-gnome2.4-1:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386 libsoxr0:i386 libspeex1:i386 libsqlite3-0:i386
libswresample3:i386 libtheora0:i386 libtwolame0:i386 libudev1:i386 libva-drm2:i386
libva-x11-2:i386 libva2:i386 libvdpau1:i386 libvncclient1 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386
libvpx5:i386 libwavpack1:i386 libwayland-client0:i386 libwayland-cursor0:i386
libwayland-egl1:i386 libwebpmux3:i386 libx264-155:i386 libx265-165:i386 libxcb-composite0
libxkbcommon0:i386 libxvidcore4:i386 libzvbi0:i386 linux-headers-4.19.0-12-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-12-common linux-headers-4.19.0-13-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-13-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-14-common linux-headers-4.19.0-16-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-16-common linux-headers-4.19.0-17-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-17-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-18-common linux-headers-4.19.0-19-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-19-common linux-headers-4.19.0-20-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-20-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-21-common linux-headers-4.19.0-22-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-22-common linux-headers-4.19.0-23-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-23-common
linux-headers-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-headers-4.19.0-24-common linux-headers-4.19.0-25-amd64
linux-headers-4.19.0-25-common linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-17-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-21-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-23-amd64
linux-image-4.19.0-24-amd64 linux-image-4.19.0-25-amd64 optipng python-apsw python-cherrypy3
python-css-parser python-cssselect python-cssutils python-dateutil python-feedparser
python-html2text python-html5-parser python-markdown python-mechanize python-msgpack
python-netifaces python-pil python-pyparsing python-pyqt5.qtsvg python-pyqt5.qtwebkit
python-regex python-repoze.lru python-routes python3-pypdf2 vlc-plugin-access-extra xsel
xsltproc
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
firefox:i386
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 282 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 626850 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing firefox:i386 (135.0~mozillabinaries-1mx21+1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/mx-viewer to provide /usr/bin/x-www-browser (x-www-browser) in auto mode
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# exit
exit
mesblvd@moach:~
$

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:01 pm**

Oi, that is hard to read. Use [code]code output here[/code]

Thanks.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:29 pm**

hi eadwinerose: sorry for the jungle I pasted in. btw I do not understand your instruction "Use

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Anyway, I have eliminated all of the jungle above except the beginning, with additional comments in brackets []:
I pasted in below what appeared in the terminal emulator. Please let me know why it is that the system finally recognized me as root:
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password: [used my everyday user password]
su: Authentication failure
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password: [used my admin password and, this time, it worked! so what is the magic of the command "su"?]
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox

Beyond all this, my new FF 135 64bit installation works great, I now have my audio back when I play videos. btw the browser seems to be a bit faster than the old version of FF from mx19.4.

Re the new system I want to have, using MX23, I am a simple soul. afaik, I did not customize my computer with mx19.4, just did the default installation, not using uefi. everything on my 500gb ssd is on one partition (is the swap by default another partition?). my only "customization" is, as I noted above and in the other posting in this part of the mxforum, creation of a Data "folder" (ok, I know now that in unix I should say "directory"!) where I park all info in lower level directories like Data Business, Data Non-business, and, within them, directories like projects, clients, etc. I understand from your and others' replies that I am making a big jump from MX19.4 to MX23, so that the programs that come with MX will be much changed and, therefore, it would be best just to manually configure them. That includes the new thunderbird (TB). and I guess I will lose my FF history as the MX23 installation will reformat my SSD. I really would like to keep my FF history and my TB inbox and outbox. That's my concern. Should I have others?

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:32 pm**

one addendum:
when I tried the whoami command in the terminal emulator under mesblvd@moach:- I just got the answer that I am mesblvd@moach.
But when I tried the whoami command after su I was recognized as root (that is not the precise formulation that I received).
so what precisely is this su command?

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:08 pm**

Seeker wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:32 pm when I tried the whoami command in the terminal emulator under mesblvd@moach:- I just got the answer that I am mesblvd@moach.
But when I tried the whoami command after su I was recognized as root

Yes, that is what "whoami" does. It tells you who you are on the system.

Seeker wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:32 pm so what precisely is this su command?

I think a lot of the angst on this thread could have been avoided if you'd taken the time to learn a few of the basics of how to use the sudo command. There are literally hundreds of tutorials online that can teach you Linux sudo basics with dozens of examples. There are entire books on sudo that you could read if you were so inclined.

A lot of this comes down to understanding what sudo is, what it does, and why it exists. I'll skip the part where I explain the really simple stuff to you because I'm sure you've already read the Wikipedia page on sudo that spells it out. In short, sudo is a security tool that prevents people from having to login as root, because being root is dangerous, just to run one or two commands. It is a temporary "elevate me" permission slip you can invoke. Its usage syntax has been discussed on this forum before.

You really, really owe it to yourself to get familiar with beginner-level sudo usage and stop blaming MX Linux for including it. sudo predates Linux (by over a decade) and it is a core component of any Linux system administration toolkit. You want to be old school and use the command line? That's fine. Then you need to know the old school rules.

Once you commit to understanding that sudo is a good thing and not a bad thing, you can then branch out to understand what su is and why you should avoid it.

As is the case with all commands, you can always read the fine manual. Linux is one of the few operating systems that includes a bunch of its own documentation in every install, in the form of man pages. From a terminal you can run "man su" and it will show you the man page for su, the superuser command[0]. Get into the habit of avoiding su, because you can break things very easily when the guard rails aren't there, and superusers don't have guard rails.

Finally, I just want to point out how embarrassing it is to have an account that is almost six years old, with over 350 posts, and yet still dismiss a moderator's comment by saying "I don't understand what 'code output here' means". You have an obligation to read, follow, and understand the forum rules. You've been reminded to follow them. Please make the slightest effort to educate yourself in this matter. It's only polite.

[0] For extra credit, you can also see what documentation exists when you run "info <whatever>".

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:42 am**

Seeker wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:29 pm hi eadwinerose: sorry for the jungle I pasted in. btw I do not understand your instruction "Use
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code output here

Copy the line, and [code]put your code stuff from the terminal in this spot, so it becomes easier to read[/code]

It will look like so:

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mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password: [used my everyday user password]
su: Authentication failure
mesblvd@moach:~
$ su
Password: [used my admin password and, this time, it worked! so what is the magic of the command "su"?]
root@moach:/home/mesblvd# sudo apt remove firefox

Posted: **Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:27 pm**

thanks for all your help eadwinerose. I should have marked this as resolved a few weeks ago. I followed the instructions here, already don't remember which ones (!!), uninstalled the 32-bit version of new FF and installed the 64-bit version. now all is well.

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