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Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:56 pm
by black_currant
When I click on the icon after adding German and moving it up, still the only option I get is US american. When I go back to settings I see the German keyboard still priorised.
That said, I am starting to wonder whether something is generally wrong with that panel. The little wifi applet acts similarly: I select a network, I put in the password, and it closes and acts as if nothing happened. No visible attempt to connect, no error message.
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:18 pm
by fehlix
black_currant wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:56 pm
When I click on the icon after adding German and moving it up, still the only option I get is US american. When I go back to settings I see the German keyboard still priorised.
Can't remember last time how I fixed it either just adding or keeping only German layout, next try to see if it is in the click list or not, or I logged out and logged in again.
But I remember I could always change it to German keyboard. So you are close, I guess.
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:17 pm
by AVLinux
fehlix wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:47 pm
If someone would have found how to adjust with a simple config file, I guess the issue would not have been on the iso.
Unfortunately the solution would need to be coded into Enlightenment/EFL itself. It is designed to be installed from package manager and on first run it runs a setup wizard with basic system settings including keyboard. When you create a 'ready to use' ISO of Enlightenment this wizard doesn't run so keyboard has to be set manually.. I agree this one issue would be much easier on almost every other possible DE but E doesn't use the usual XML type of configuration files..
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:53 am
by black_currant
Hm. So this would be the first Linux distribution I am using where elementar settings are hidden away. What happened to the Unix philosophy? The system must use some form of file to store configuration values, and that file I can access. So even if the user experience is planned the way you describe (configure once, override system settings forever), there must be a place where this can be changed, even if it is undocumented. So for changing the keyboard I have to properly reverse engineer the DE.
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:11 pm
by AVLinux
black_currant wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:53 am
Hm. So this would be the first Linux distribution I am using where elementar settings are hidden away. What happened to the Unix philosophy? The system must use some form of file to store configuration values, and that file I can access. So even if the user experience is planned the way you describe (configure once, override system settings forever), there must be a place where this can be changed, even if it is undocumented. So for changing the keyboard I have to properly reverse engineer the DE.
You are misunderstanding what I've said which is likely my fault..
There are many non-English Users and changing the keyboard setting as described from the Panel applet is what they have done and it works. The keyboard is not 'hardcoded' to not be changed, it is supposed to be changed to the Users needs. What I am talking about is a setup wizard that doesn't run in AV Linux to allow keyboard setting at first run before using the system, once you are first logged in it CAN be changed. I don't know why this isn't working for you without more information.
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:28 pm
by aika
menu => settings => system-keyboard
or in terminal:
Add German there. Then save and reboot.
After the german flag should be visible at the bottom of the bar.
Take a look at my attached picture
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:33 pm
by AVLinux
aika wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:28 pm
menu => settings => system-keyboard
or in terminal:
Add German there. Then save and reboot.
After the german flag should be visible at the bottom of the bar.
Take a look at my attached picture
Unfortunately this is different with Enlightenment DE than with regular DE's and that will set the system keyboard as expected but not set the keyboard that the Desktop Environment is using in this case.
Re: Changing the keyboard to German layout (AV Linux 23.2 "Enlightened")
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:51 pm
by aika
black_currant wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:17 pm...
- I tried
, as well as
but to no effect ...
The command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" worked?
Then, regarding available LOCALE, I would enter:
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sudo update-locale LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
Then reorganize the assignment of the directories/files:
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sudo locale-gen --purge --no-archive
And finally check whether:
runs cleanly.
To compare, enter in the terminal:
and take a look at my new attached picture:
German MX works best with UTF-8:
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aika@mx-dell:~
$ locale
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
aika@mx-dell:~
$ cat /etc/default/keyboard
# KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE
# Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.
XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="de,us,ru"
XKBVARIANT=",,typewriter"
XKBOPTIONS="terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,grp_led:scroll,grp:rctrl_rshift_toggle"
BACKSPACE="guess"
aika@mx-dell:~
$ sudo locale-gen --purge --no-archive
[sudo] Passwort für aika:
Generating locales (this might take a while)...
de_DE.ISO-8859-15@euro... done
de_DE.ISO-8859-1... done
de_DE.UTF-8... done
en_US.ISO-8859-1... done
en_US.ISO-8859-15... done
en_US.UTF-8... done
ru_RU.ISO-8859-5... done
ru_RU.UTF-8... done
Generation complete.
aika@mx-dell:~
$