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Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:30 pm**

Upgraded to 33.5 and when run even in safe mode,
it boots me out of my session and back to LightDM

sudo dmesg - w
not showing anything

should I set xessions to capture the bug?
or
palemoon -d
won't catch bug because of exiting to lightDM

ideas?

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Snapshot created on: 20250112_1620
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-33-amd64 [5.10.226-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-33-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.20.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.20.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_x64 Libretto March 31  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20552CU v: ThinkPad T500 serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 20552CU serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 6FET93WW (3.23 ) 
           date: 10/12/2012 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.2 Wh (100.0%) condition: 31.2/47.5 Wh (65.7%) volts: 12.2 
           min: 10.8 model: SANYO 92P1137 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T9300 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn family: 6 
           model-id: 17 (23) stepping: 6 microcode: 610 cache: L2: 6 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 9975 
           Speed: 2359 MHz max: 2501 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2359 2: 2378 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected 
           Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2a42 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 driver: 
           loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 444x277mm (17.5x10.9") 
           s-diag: 523mm (20.6") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS-1 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 129 size: 331x207mm (13.0x8.1") 
           diag: 390mm (15.4") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG) v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.6 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T400 driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-33-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no 
           Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T400 driver: e1000e 
           v: kernel port: 1840 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10f5 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           modules: wl port: 1c60 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4237 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Broadcom BCM2045B (BDC-2.1) [Bluetooth Controller] type: USB driver: btusb 
           v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-2:2 chip-ID: 0a5c:2145 class-ID: fe01 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 5 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 1.2 lmp-v: 2.1 
           sub-v: 4235 hci-v: 2.1 rev: 5160 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio, telephony 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 121.95 GiB (81.8%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Hitachi model: HTS543216L9SA00 size: 149.05 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: C40C scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 21.99 GiB size: 21.48 GiB (97.67%) used: 15.78 GiB (73.4%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 
           ID-2: /home raw-size: 116.12 GiB size: 114.11 GiB (98.27%) used: 98.34 GiB (86.2%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 66 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.95 GiB used: 99.3 MiB (5.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: 41.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2716 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2984 lib: 1525 flatpak: 0 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           1: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates non-free contrib main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm non-free contrib main
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jami-main.list 
           1: deb https://dl.jami.net/nightly/debian_11/ jami main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/megasync.list 
           1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/meganz-archive-keyring.gpg] https://mega.nz/linux/repo/Debian_11/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.its.dal.ca/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm non-free main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rocm.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
           1: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/ bookworm contrib
Info:      Processes: 248 Uptime: 5d 18h 24m wakeups: 9 Memory: 3.72 GiB used: 2.68 GiB (72.0%) 
           Init: systemd v: 252 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 
           alt: 10/12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:35 pm**

... Probably because your CPU do not have the avx flag. (but Stevo can give the answer for the MX package)

flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 9975

https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
v33.3.0 (2024-08-13)
This is a major development update.Important notes with this version:
From this version forward, all 64-bit releases require a processor with AVX capabilities!
...

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:23 pm**

I would say that his FrankenMX has something to do with it. I turn off AVX for my native builds.

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-33-amd64 [5.10.226-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-33-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro 
           init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.20.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.38 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.20.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.32.0 Distro: MX-23.5_x64 Libretto March 31  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:28 pm**

Just to say that the latest 33.5 Palemoon is working fine on antiX.
Thanks @Stevo

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:30 pm**

Stevo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:23 pm ... I turn off AVX for my native builds.

... Good to know ... Thx for the information.

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:50 am**

However, even turning off AVX can't make it work with FrankenMX. If they are married to it, maybe the binary from palemoon.org could work...except it needs AVX.

Working on PM 33.5.1...I am thinking of providing a separate AVX version, since it is supposed to provide significant performance gains if your processor supports it.

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:39 am**

Stevo wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:50 am... AVX version, since it is supposed to provide significant performance gains if your processor supports it.

I have tried the avx version from palemoon site, provide just a little performance gains but only or mostly for videos and audio here.

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:48 pm**

Palemoon is not my critical browser
I'll lookup AVX

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:52 pm**

Is there a kernel flag I could try?

PS kernel 6.x fails to install on this computer

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:53 pm**

lscpu
...
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 cl
flush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch
_perfmon pebs bts nopl cpuid aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est
tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority v
pid dtherm ida

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:59 pm**

... You can try this :
https://ftp2.palemoon.org/avx/linux/
palemoon-33.5.1.linux-x86_64-sse2_gtk2.tar.xz 16-Jan-2025 17:13 36024628
or
palemoon-33.5.1.linux-x86_64-sse2_gtk3.tar.xz 16-Jan-2025 17:13 36031924

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:29 pm**

Stevo wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:50 am However, even turning off AVX can't make it work with FrankenMX. If they are married to it, maybe the binary from palemoon.org could work...except it needs AVX.

Working on PM 33.5.1...I am thinking of providing a separate AVX version, since it is supposed to provide significant performance gains if your processor supports it.

FI: The new MX package option should be for palemoon amd64: 33.5.1-1mx23+avx (not + avs)

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:36 pm**

oops wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:29 pm
Stevo wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:50 am However, even turning off AVX can't make it work with FrankenMX. If they are married to it, maybe the binary from palemoon.org could work...except it needs AVX.

Working on PM 33.5.1...I am thinking of providing a separate AVX version, since it is supposed to provide significant performance gains if your processor supports it.
FI: The new MX package option should be for palemoon amd64: 33.5.1-1mx23+avx (not + avs)

I am not sure what you mean by this. 33.5.1-1mx23+avx is only in the test repo.

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:00 pm**

I mean the name into MXPI test repos is : 33.5.1-1mx23+avs (not +avx) ... So maybe a mistake ?

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:00 pm**

Whoops it was late at night...OK, avs stands for AV(X)...Something

I kid, I kid, rebuilding as "avx". Luckily, it will be an upgrade from "avs", and not the other way around, and was in the test repo.

Posted: **Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:29 pm**

... OK Stevo ... no problem (and thanks for this new avx version)

Posted: **Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:09 am**

OK, they're built and uploading, I took a nap in the meantime. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VaMADM ... sp=sharing

More retconning: obviously, avs was "AV(X) Support".

Posted: **Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:46 am**

lscpu will tell you about your cpu. You can use this to only show if your cpu supports avx instructions.

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lscpu | grep -o "avx[^ ]*"

Posted: **Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:18 pm**

gonna give in and reinstall MX23 anyways

Posted: **Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:17 pm**

did a fresh install
MX23 = ok

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