MX Linux Forum

I am answering this question knowing It is not fair to ask this at the MX forums, but I will try to be as objective as possible:

1. According to my estimations, MX forums has the higher rank of Solved topics. Topics which are mostly real and not made by administrators to keep the forums active!
2. There is a fast response to a new topic.
3. They ask the general information of the OS from the person who has the problem, output of inxi, so that the person gets the best help from the forum.
4. They try to make new apps according to the needs of the users, which come of PPAs or other sources.
5. They constantly introduce new tools.

Well, if I miss something, you can add it!

Suggestion: There are topics which probably are solved, but the users do not refer them. Maybe an administrator can follow the topics and remind the users for the outcome. In this way, the rating of solved posts will increase.

asinoro wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:26 am
Suggestion: There are topics which probably are solved, but the users do not refer them. Maybe an administrator can follow the topics and remind the users for the outcome. In this way, the rating of solved posts will increase.

Not just here at MX Linux forum but alot of many Linux help forums people ask and get what solves 'their problem' and it is fixed , OK , wonderful,
there is no info, none at all that that solution worked or didnot work for other people reading that thread
so if you have a similar problem TUFF , you just didn't find anything useful , again TUFF.
So I ask is it fair to other Linux user - to not take the time (O0h a few minutes) to just simply press the check box on the solution
Having to guess if that or this thing worked is time consuming, better if you are fortunate to have an extra machine to do the tries and errors
The knowledge that comes with years of Linux/computer use is upon the individual user's time on Linux with these machines not everyone has access to that time to spend happily looking through our install.

I not be an admin, so do they have the time to spare chasing ?.

1. Topics which are mostly real.
All topics made are 100% real and made by users. We don't have the time nor the energy to create fake topics.

3. I wish I didn't have to ask all the time. It IS in the rules, after all.

As for the reminder.. you have no idea how much work keeping up a forum is, let alone keep an eye on all the topics AND then ask everyone to get them marked. I have enough work asking for that QSI as it is.

@asinoro wrote:

Suggestion: There are topics which probably are solved, but the users do not refer them. Maybe an administrator can follow the topics and remind the users for the outcome. In this way, the rating of solved posts will increase.

A fair number of posters are one shots and by that I mean that they post a problem, they get an outcome, and they leave. We can and do remind these folks to mark their topics as solved knowing that, sometimes, it will never happen and it is our policy not to do it for them.

Are we the best? Certainly we are the best for MX, but for Linux in general it really depends on the itch a poster wants to scratch.

I'm registered in some other Linux forums as well (I also use and test out other distributions), but this is by far my most active one. From my experience the community is a big part of what MX as good as it is and this forum is its central hub.

PS: asinoro, in your signature you're advertising a non-optimal way to mark a topic as solved by editing the title. The correct way is to click on the Solved-Button of a user's post that solved the problem which puts "[Solved]" as green text into the title

Yes.

MadMax wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:10 am
PS: asinoro, in your signature you're advertising a non-optimal way to mark a topic as solved by editing the title. The correct way is to click on the Solved-Button of a user's post that solved the problem which puts "[Solved]" as green text into the title

Thanks, I fixed it, I made this comment since there is no like button!

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:17 am ...3. I wish I didn't have to ask all the time. It IS in the rules, after all.

As for the reminder.. you have no idea how much work keeping up a forum is, let alone keep an eye on all the topics AND then ask everyone to get them marked. I have enough work asking for that QSI as it is.

I've always put forth a little effort to try to organized things efficiently, whatever it was, and I know that this is none of my business, but I always thought there would be a few things that the forum administers MIGHT consider.

First, the forum devs, admins, moderators, etc. are taking their time in an attempt to do the members a favor, therefore the members should show the courtesy of following and reading the posting rules. And the devs, et. al. often show a lot of patience with the members.

I'm sure the admins have handy C&P quips such as:
"Please use code tags when posting code, makes for an easier to read output. Thanks :)"
"Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )"
and "And please post text output as text, not as screenshot, thanks."

First, I couldn't answer the questions, but if I could, I generally probably wouldn't show as much patience with some members. If they followed the rules, I might be more patient, but not if they aren't willing to read and genuinely try to abide by the rules to make it easier for BOTH parties in an attempt to make it a win-win situation.
The devs et. al. know why they request the QSI.
The devs et. al. are not prescient.

I'd request an appropriate title.
I'd request that they present the entire "picture" of how, who, what, where, when, why of any steps taken.
How, who, what, where, when, why they did that preceding the problem, or what may have caused it.
How, who, what, where, when, why they did in an attempt to fix the problem, etc. etc.
Don't expect mind readers.

This of course would be situationally specific, but I'd try to incentivize the members to abide by the rules with rewards and minor inconveniences, with "solved" being a reward.

Instead of telling them to: ""Please post your QSI. ( MX Menu, Quick System Info, Copy for Forum, Paste here )"
I'd reply with a link, they would have the minor inconvenience of opening the link, linked to the specific rule that they didn't follow.
[Or, it could link them them to all of the rules, let them read the entire rules and figure out which one(s) they didn't follow.]

If the the first option, it would automatically include two other links:
2 – the rule stating to read the rules, with the rules included.
3 – the last part of the rule (which would have to be amended), stating that if you don't follow the rules, and the admins have to to "link" you X number of times consecutively [I like three (3)], or "link" you once per X number of post, then you're account is locked for X number or days.

Again, this of course would be situationally specific, and at the devs, admins et. al.'s discretion.

There's always someone who wants special consideration (for unlocking), but to emphasize the point, I might mention something like.

Locking exceptions for special situations, possibly, we once had a quadriplegic member that was jackknifed in a xxxxxxx-house that was in the post spontaneous combustion stage, but we requested that he submit supporting evidence such as interior and exterior photos – maybe you can be the first to be granted an exception.

Have a nice day!
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Nice catch MadMax!
Yes, the MX forum is great - and often ironic.

MadMax wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:10 am I'm registered in some other Linux forums ...

MX-Linux is the best Linux. But there are more tolerant forums where helpful nerds are welcome and admin/moderators are not kings.

aika wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:52 pm MX-Linux is the best Linux. But there are more tolerant forums where helpful nerds are welcome and admin/moderators are not kings.

You agreed with our rules and way of handling things by signing up.

asinoro wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:26 amIs MX forums the best OS Linux forums?

No.

I don't think there is something like "the best".

It may be the best for someone. And not the best for some other one.

When you are feeling alright here then everything is well enough. :)

Eadwine Rose 2x Hammer to Nailed it. System Administrators are possibly one of the highest Most Harshly Stressed individuals 7x24. Their Having to learn to know all thing is hard road to live by. They do it with Zest. And love to succeed every challenge.
Any to repeat Any worthy information is of value. my day when claimed us to be "Stuff Guys" we do stuff.
Now then the past what have you. Does not matter its source. Forum and or "Asking a Search engine" the Right Question. To the Right truthful issue one is appearing to have. (copy paste into your notes can provide "Aid" ).

Many troubles as my other Snapshot dialog indicated: Many issues are a cause of "Between Chair and Keyboard" !

Value the information given. To answering direct resolution to a given issue. You need ask the right given question to get a speedy result. Some do very much like to know what hardware QSI results as too! SysAdmins have real road experience.

So their knowledge of given hardware is like wizardry of its own guild. Not to smash up any distro. Experience shares its real value. Many times real Syntax to cmdline is also very important to fishing expeditions to asking this that or any other thing
w/o asking the necessary question given the dialog of issue or a Pulse to condition toss of word.

Test things out ' command --help', grep --help. apropos cmdline, a high level shopping view of a command an associates, apropos ls. man cmdline, man ls.
can share volumes to a command and its operational options and syntax some even give examples. That is a good man pg. 'man ls' as example, every *Nix cmd has it built in so does Win /? same. Win is simply Unix done wrong exploited and burnt into its own distro simply reverse code engineering and done different. Under the hood much the same. ls = dir example. Linux is the Cheetah of OS. Lean Fast mean to the point good feast of an OS. no bloat although some MS influence has snuck in the back door. He whom knows "knows" Spaces in dir and filename. a nono to the inode and file system consider ext4 superior to ntfs. and has ntfs ever really changed. in terminal type blkid -k and look at all the filesystems Linux has to offer. And thanks to Sun M/systems zfs has ported into *Nix as open-zfs very nice way to manage any raid if done right.

Linux although is X11 gui driven so many desktops available.
many magical process by a Systems Admin is done performing "Terminal Shell Command Line " its gui basics all the same " - see it read its value try it your self - Make some notes these may become valued later in time. Thru repetition the Source becomes ones Own. Practice to the nth level. A Sys Admin has done so to reach such clarity of value to the all mighty command line. in terminal. Like ol ' DOS day. or early unix days close to machine code. anyone can learn from anywhere its up to the reader. The Keyboard Mouse Practitioner.
MX shares like all! a wide community of minds. As does any good distro. many seem to ky-bosh to comment bc lesser of knowledge does not know. Patience and readings do help. Take some time to read when idle in time.n.space.
Play becomes fun learning. Admins do this. Easy to tinker. Call it productive practice. Atomick (Tim). Last point ! "It never hurts to Ask? - It only hurts not too! " some one if not many may strike to answer. Test their answers. "Cheers. "

Is the MX forum the best Linux forum?

Yes, absolutely in my experience.
I have been on ubuntu, xubuntu, puppy, suse, maybe some others. Mostly long ago, got no time now for anything but MX!

Other forums can be intimidating and mean to the new comer with some simple problem.

RTFM you moron !

Not here.
Here is the greatest bunch of experts on any linux hardware and software problem as related to MX, and therefore usually Debian.
There is no problem that can't be solved with the collective wisdom here.

You have direct access to the wonderful dev team.
If you need an obscure package, almost always someone can make a version for the repo. It is amazing how fast sometimes!

The average tone is helpful, and calm usually.
Trolls are detected and escorted out quickly.

So, therefore I must thank the moderators and those who run this fine forum.

aika wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:52 pm

MadMax wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:10 am I'm registered in some other Linux forums ...

MX-Linux is the best Linux. But there are more tolerant forums where helpful nerds are welcome and admin/moderators are not kings.

When you say "more tolerant forums," do you mean ones in addition to MX, or ones with more tolerance?

As a former member of the MepisLovers Forum, and administrator of this forum since the beginning. I will say anointing a forum as the best is a fruitless task. I am sure there are good ones and bad ones. Obviously I am biased but would be the last to judge this Forum as the best. But I do believe it is a good one.

We attempt to be fair to all users. Decisions on warnings, banning and locking posts are discussed by the moderators and admins. And many times there is disagreement but we have always been able to, in my view, come to a fair conclusion.

The rules are not static. They are reviewed frequently and changes are made. Extensions to the phpBB software are added to make use of the Forum more user friendly.

The Development team is unusually active in answering issues, following the posts as far as possible to a satisfactory conclusion.

asinoro
Impact the statistics. mark this topic solved by Leo.
Keep it family-friendly.

Mind.. no statistics as to percentage are being kept, made, or otherwise used.

The solved marking is simply there to save everyone time reading through an entire thread or posting needlessly.

The advantage of this over editing the subject line is that clicking the word takes someone to the solution, which saves THEM the time reading through the entire thread.

This forum is enjoyable because of helpful people and information

aika wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:52 pm

MadMax wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:10 am I'm registered in some other Linux forums ...

MX-Linux is the best Linux. But there are more tolerant forums where helpful nerds are welcome and admin/moderators are not kings.

There are many forums and many of them have helpful people. And some have people that are not helpful or rely on their own attitude to decide what they deem to "a response" .

This forum has admin and moderators that wish to provide help, and have people / techs provide HELP and not just attitude. And it obviously works, as anyone looking can see.

There is a really simple thing here that some people just dont get - If your not satisfied with, or do not like the level, performance, people, help or moderators in this forum ... then you can move on and find some other place.

Good response.

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