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Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:05 pm
by mmikeinsantarosa
I screwed up and sent 2.53.8.1 up as 2.53.18.1. I asked tim to put 2.53.18 back up. 2.53.18.1 is still not in the mozilla repo

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:42 pm
by app4soft
Stevo wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:18 pm Pale Moon 33.0.0 just made it into the MX 21 repo yesterday, after I had some trouble with the checksums that the OBS was generating for the finished builds.

https://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/pool/main/p/palemoon/
Pale Moon 33.3.0 released with a breaking changes - official builds now requires CPUs with AWX, and there no official builds for CPUs with SSE2: https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

There are contributed AVX and SSE2 builds on FTP in "avx" folder, though: ftp://ftp.palemoon.org/avx/linux/
(NOTE: For security reasons, don't use this contributed binary directly, see: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 40#p254440)

Please, package Pale Moon 33.3.0 GTK2 for MX-23 with the SSE2 support.

Here is configuration for build from source:

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# Set GTK Version to 2 or 3
#_GTK_VERSION=2

# Application and target
#export MOZ_PKG_SPECIAL=sse2_gtk"$_GTK_VERSION"
export MOZ_PKG_SPECIAL=avx2_gtk"$_GTK_VERSION"
mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=../build/obj-pm-x64-$MOZ_PKG_SPECIAL-release
ac_add_options --enable-application=palemoon

# Build options
mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j6"
#ac_add_options --enable-optimize="-O2 -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -w"
ac_add_options --enable-optimize="-O2 -march=x86-64-v3 -w"
ac_add_options --enable-default-toolkit=cairo-gtk$_GTK_VERSION

ac_add_options --enable-official-branding
ac_add_options --enable-update-channel=release
ac_add_options --enable-updater

ac_add_options --disable-precompiled-startupcache

ac_add_options --enable-jemalloc
ac_add_options --enable-strip

ac_add_options --enable-devtools
ac_add_options --enable-av1
ac_add_options --enable-jxl

ac_add_options --disable-gamepad
ac_add_options --disable-tests
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --disable-necko-wifi

ac_add_options --disable-webrtc

ac_add_options --with-pthreads

# Please see https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml for restrictions when using the official branding.
export MC_OFFICIAL=1
export MOZILLA_OFFICIAL=1

ac_add_options --x-libraries=/usr/lib64

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:45 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Please post the request in the correct subforum. You're in the mx21 requests.

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:53 pm
by app4soft
Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:45 pm Please post the request in the correct subforum. You're in the mx21 requests.
As Pale Moon is already in repos and that is just an update reqeust, and there is no "MX 23 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread" yet (only MX 21 topic), should I create "MX 23 Repository: The Pale Moon Browser Thread"?

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:25 pm
by Stevo
Since MX 21 and 23 xfce are GTK+ 3, and I've built the last couple versions in our repos as such, why GTK+ 2?

We also haven't supported sse2 in it for lo these many years...is there a pressing need for it now?

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:18 pm
by Stevo
Well, I've copied the sse2 config enablement from those sse2 builds for our MX...hopefully that's cromulent with the Palemoon devs and I don't have to change the package name to "newmoon"...but I wonder why they don't just enable it if it's that innocuous.

Sources uploaded to the OBS for package builds.

Edit: Well, it makes the builds fail on ARM, since they don't have that CPU feature. I think I can apply it only for x86 builds. Retrying...

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:10 am
by dreamer
Stevo wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:25 pm We also haven't supported sse2 in it for lo these many years...is there a pressing need for it now?
Maybe it's a Windows thing (see below). They updated their requirements though, because if they didn't they would "leave a lot of performance on the table".

https://www.palemoon.org/systemrequirements.shtml
Minimum requirements for official builds:
32-bit (Windows only): A processor with at least SSE2 support (any CPU that is not museum-grade should be fine).
64-bit: A processor with at least AVX support. Almost all modern processors from the last decade support this.
At least 2 GB of free RAM.
While it may be possible to run it in limited fashion on less RAM, it isn't recommended as memory pressure will cause a lot of performance loss and may cause crashes.
A reasonable screen size (720p or higher).

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:48 am
by app4soft
Stevo wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:25 pm Since MX 21 and 23 xfce are GTK+ 3, and I've built the last couple versions in our repos as such, why GTK+ 2?

We also haven't supported sse2 in it for lo these many years...is there a pressing need for it now?
I tried latest official builds of Pale Moon 33.3.0 on my old PC:
  • AVX build just not starts (CPU is SSE2 only)
  • SSE2 build works.
There are a lot of old PCs around there, that is not able to run any usable browser, but Pale Moon SSE2 build.

About GTK2, is not it uses less resources than GTK3? (which is important for old PC with limited RAM)

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:59 am
by app4soft
Stevo wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:25 pm We also haven't supported sse2 in it for lo these many years...
But MX-23 package of Pale Moon 33.2.1 (amd64, GTk3) works on my PC, how it could be if it is not SSE2 build and my CPU is SSE2 only?

Re: Request latest seamonkey and palemoon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:22 am
by oops
app4soft wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:59 am
Stevo wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:25 pm We also haven't supported sse2 in it for lo these many years...
But MX-23 package of Pale Moon 33.2.1 (amd64, GTk3) works on my PC, how it could be if it is not SSE2 build and my CPU is SSE2 only?
SSE2 build was the default build, until 33.3.0 (now the default is AVX)