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Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:01 am
by nirav
Hello,
I'm not receiving any KDE Plasma related updates using APT, I have install it using the Discover App.. Is that normal or am I missing any repo?
Sorry forgot, following is the sys info:
Operating System: MX Linux 23
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0
Qt Version: 5.15.8
Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-7300U CPU @ 2.60GHz
Memory: 15.4 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 620
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Product Name: Latitude 7480
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:11 am
by j2mcgreg
We need your computer’s complete profile before we can proceed, so you need to post the output from the QSI utility. The Quick System Info (QSI) utility is located in MX Tools and its output is automatically formatted for use here in the forum. Run the QSI utility, click “Copy for Forum” at the bottom and then just paste it here in your thread.
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Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:27 am
by nirav
I have updated my question with the requested information, sorry about that.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:52 am
by specialk
Is apt update working normally ? Repos ok ?
Just to mention that I installed MX 23 twice recently and had the "tiguinet" server by default, which is down for a while.
Realized it when there where no update anymore.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:05 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Please share your full QSI please. Run it, and copy for forum to paste in a reply or edit the original. Thanks.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:24 pm
by nirav
Sorry not an Linux expert (yet
) please explain how do run Full QSI
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:31 pm
by specialk
Menu -> MX Tools, -> Quick Sytem Information
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:46 pm
by nirav
I already did that, listed in my initial question.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:55 pm
by Eadwine Rose
That is not the full thing.
Please post your
Quick System Info using Copy for forum, thanks.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:13 pm
by nirav
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System:
Kernel: 6.1.0-13-amd64 [6.1.55-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-13-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-23.1_KDE_x64 Libretto
October 15 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 7480 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: N/A serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: 1.32.1 date: 07/05/2023
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 35.6 Wh (62.5%) condition: 57.0/60.0 Wh (95.0%) volts: 7.5 min: 7.6
model: SMP DELL DM3WC64 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: discharging
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i5-7300U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Amber/Kaby Lake note: check
gen: core 7 level: v3 note: check built: 2017 process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x8E (142)
stepping: 9 microcode: 0xF4
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 400/3500 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave
cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 bogomips: 21599
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling mitigation: Microcode
Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling,
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5
process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:5916 class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.9 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x06ee built: 2016 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 158
gamma: 1.2 size: 309x173mm (12.17x6.81") diag: 354mm (13.9") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.2-1~mx23ahs renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2)
direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci_intel_skl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d71 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-13-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6
chip-ID: 8086:15d7 class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl pcie: gen: 1
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24fd class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-7:2
chip-ID: 8087:0a2b class-ID: e001
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
sub-v: 100 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 100
Info: acl-mtu: 1021:4 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff
link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
telephony
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 582.24 GiB used: 42.87 GiB (7.4%)
ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 maj-min: 179:0 model: 128GB size: 116.48 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Crucial model: CT500P3SSD8 size: 465.76 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: P9CR30A temp: 30.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 150 GiB size: 146.59 GiB (97.72%) used: 14.47 GiB (9.9%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
ID-3: /home raw-size: 293.26 GiB size: 287.59 GiB (98.07%) used: 28.39 GiB (9.9%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 22 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4
maj-min: 259:4
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C pch: 37.0 C mobo: 35.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
Packages: 2499 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2490 libs: 1345 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala pm: rpm pkgs: 0
pm: flatpak pkgs: 9
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/insync.list
1: deb http://apt.insync.io/debian bookworm non-free contrib
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.cogentco.com/pub/linux/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
2: deb http://mirror.cogentco.com/pub/linux/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nala-sources.list
1: deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ bookworm main
2: deb http://debian-archive.trafficmanager.net/debian/ bookworm main
3: deb https://mirror.0x626b.com/debian/ bookworm main
4: deb http://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ bookworm main
5: deb https://debian.cs.binghamton.edu/debian/ bookworm main
6: deb https://repo.ialab.dsu.edu/debian/ bookworm main
7: deb https://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian/ bookworm main
8: deb https://mirrors.bloomu.edu/debian/ bookworm main
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
Info:
Processes: 239 Uptime: 2h 19m wakeups: 203 Memory: 15.38 GiB used: 5.93 GiB (38.6%)
Init: SysVinit v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0
alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI
Re: Plasma updates [Solved]
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:14 pm
by dolphin_oracle
there very likely aren't very many plasma updates. a few packages have been updated since our original mx23 release, but if you have run all updates, and/or started with a mx23.1 iso, which you have, then there probably aren't any plasma updates.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
by nirav
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:10 pm
by Charlie Brown
@dolphin_oracle this is not something important, but, (btw) would you consider to get rid of this in next isos ootb ? :
...
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
I just renamed it to .old and got rid of, no harm so far :)
(Already obsolete if I'm not wrong ..? )
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:31 pm
by dolphin_oracle
We used to not have that file. It’s not necessary usually. But somewhere there is a package installation. That fails if that file isn’t present. You don’t have to have anything in it, the file just needs to be present. I forget the package.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:33 pm
by AVLinux
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Hi and welcome!
MX is quite amazing in that it doesn't constantly force core system updates on you so if you want a rock solid 'production' machine and keep within the default Repos you can pretty much be assured that the core attributes of your system will likely remain undisturbed and only see security related updates.. On the other hand MX also offers it's 'MX-Test' Repo for backports of newer packages that can often almost match the benefits of a rolling release. In the end you call the shots and are free to play safe or upgrade stuff with very little risk.. The choice of sysvinit/systemd boot and also the choice of Stable with benefits makes MX unlike anything else out there. All of the plusses with minimal minuses!
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:32 pm
by nirav
AVLinux wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:33 pm
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Hi and welcome!
MX is quite amazing in that it doesn't constantly force core system updates on you so if you want a rock solid 'production' machine and keep within the default Repos you can pretty much be assured that the core attributes of your system will likely remain undisturbed and only see security related updates.. On the other hand MX also offers it's 'MX-Test' Repo for backports of newer packages that can often almost match the benefits of a rolling release. In the end you call the shots and are free to play safe or upgrade stuff with very little risk.. The choice of sysvinit/systemd boot and also the choice of Stable with benefits makes MX unlike anything else out there. All of the plusses with minimal minuses!
After using for few weeks I completely agree with you so far it's been very stable on doubt about it, not a constant worry for a newbie when pressing a power button and hoping it will start. The most powerful tool in MX for at least is "Snapshot" ability to create a ISO image and get it installed if major happens. The only grip is it's not using systemd which is required by some apps to function, it's mentioned
https://mxlinux.org/about-us/ but I don't fully understand what it means.
I appreciate all the hard work for creating great OS.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:25 pm
by richb
@nirav
I make snapshots with systemd all the time. They work fine.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:31 pm
by AVLinux
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:32 pm
AVLinux wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:33 pm
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Hi and welcome!
MX is quite amazing in that it doesn't constantly force core system updates on you so if you want a rock solid 'production' machine and keep within the default Repos you can pretty much be assured that the core attributes of your system will likely remain undisturbed and only see security related updates.. On the other hand MX also offers it's 'MX-Test' Repo for backports of newer packages that can often almost match the benefits of a rolling release. In the end you call the shots and are free to play safe or upgrade stuff with very little risk.. The choice of sysvinit/systemd boot and also the choice of Stable with benefits makes MX unlike anything else out there. All of the plusses with minimal minuses!
After using for few weeks I completely agree with you so far it's been very stable on doubt about it, not a constant worry for a newbie when pressing a power button and hoping it will start. The most powerful tool in MX for at least is "Snapshot" ability to create a ISO image and get it installed if major happens. The only grip is it's not using systemd which is required by some apps to function, it's mentioned
https://mxlinux.org/about-us/ but I don't fully understand what it means.
I appreciate all the hard work for creating great OS.
If you use the 'MX-Tools' Boot Options you can direct your system to boot with systemd and then all applications that may require systemd will work as you expect. There is a great variance of opinion about systemd but the fact is it is largely a systemd world out there and if you don't have any particular reason to avoid systemd then MX is happy to work with it..
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Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:21 pm
by nirav
Will it break anything? I'm not proficient in Linux
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:31 pm
by AVLinux
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:21 pm
Will it break anything? I'm not proficient in Linux
Well, it certainly shouldn't and MX is designed to do both... BUT also "If it ain't broke don't fix it..." Don't make any changes you're not comfortable with or don't fully understand, systemd isn't going anywhere so enjoy MX as it is and once you get your feet wet you can look at trying new things..
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:13 pm
by richb
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:21 pm
Will it break anything? I'm not proficient in Linux
In experience no it will not. I boot to either sysvinit or systemd but mostly systemd. And as I said all my snapshots are systemd and I have not had a failure.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:16 pm
by Charlie Brown
... Just (to make it clear) there won't be any systemd option on live session. That one is designed to work with SysV only, no matter the iso was created when booted with SysV or systemd :)
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:01 pm
by Stevo
Yes, we are pretty much going to have just one base Plasma version, but there are usually some upgraded KDE or KDE-adjacent applications that we are able to rebuild on that stable base for our own MX repositories...I just did the new Krita 5.2.2 (artistic painting) for MX 23 test, for example.
It all depends on whether a particular app's developers decide to call functions that are only in a newer Plasma's base libraries or not.