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Re: Plasma updates [Solved]
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:14 pm
by dolphin_oracle
there very likely aren't very many plasma updates. a few packages have been updated since our original mx23 release, but if you have run all updates, and/or started with a mx23.1 iso, which you have, then there probably aren't any plasma updates.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
by nirav
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:10 pm
by Charlie Brown
@dolphin_oracle this is not something important, but, (btw) would you consider to get rid of this in next isos ootb ? :
...
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
I just renamed it to .old and got rid of, no harm so far :)
(Already obsolete if I'm not wrong ..? )
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:31 pm
by dolphin_oracle
We used to not have that file. It’s not necessary usually. But somewhere there is a package installation. That fails if that file isn’t present. You don’t have to have anything in it, the file just needs to be present. I forget the package.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:33 pm
by AVLinux
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Hi and welcome!
MX is quite amazing in that it doesn't constantly force core system updates on you so if you want a rock solid 'production' machine and keep within the default Repos you can pretty much be assured that the core attributes of your system will likely remain undisturbed and only see security related updates.. On the other hand MX also offers it's 'MX-Test' Repo for backports of newer packages that can often almost match the benefits of a rolling release. In the end you call the shots and are free to play safe or upgrade stuff with very little risk.. The choice of sysvinit/systemd boot and also the choice of Stable with benefits makes MX unlike anything else out there. All of the plusses with minimal minuses!
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:32 pm
by nirav
AVLinux wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:33 pm
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Hi and welcome!
MX is quite amazing in that it doesn't constantly force core system updates on you so if you want a rock solid 'production' machine and keep within the default Repos you can pretty much be assured that the core attributes of your system will likely remain undisturbed and only see security related updates.. On the other hand MX also offers it's 'MX-Test' Repo for backports of newer packages that can often almost match the benefits of a rolling release. In the end you call the shots and are free to play safe or upgrade stuff with very little risk.. The choice of sysvinit/systemd boot and also the choice of Stable with benefits makes MX unlike anything else out there. All of the plusses with minimal minuses!
After using for few weeks I completely agree with you so far it's been very stable on doubt about it, not a constant worry for a newbie when pressing a power button and hoping it will start. The most powerful tool in MX for at least is "Snapshot" ability to create a ISO image and get it installed if major happens. The only grip is it's not using systemd which is required by some apps to function, it's mentioned
https://mxlinux.org/about-us/ but I don't fully understand what it means.
I appreciate all the hard work for creating great OS.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:25 pm
by richb
@nirav
I make snapshots with systemd all the time. They work fine.
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:31 pm
by AVLinux
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:32 pm
AVLinux wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:33 pm
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:02 pm
Okay, I have been using it for few weeks now so probably nothing to update. I was using Arch before so probably due to habit of updating daily didn't realize that Debian is not a rolling release. All the repo looks okay correct, not missing anything?
Hi and welcome!
MX is quite amazing in that it doesn't constantly force core system updates on you so if you want a rock solid 'production' machine and keep within the default Repos you can pretty much be assured that the core attributes of your system will likely remain undisturbed and only see security related updates.. On the other hand MX also offers it's 'MX-Test' Repo for backports of newer packages that can often almost match the benefits of a rolling release. In the end you call the shots and are free to play safe or upgrade stuff with very little risk.. The choice of sysvinit/systemd boot and also the choice of Stable with benefits makes MX unlike anything else out there. All of the plusses with minimal minuses!
After using for few weeks I completely agree with you so far it's been very stable on doubt about it, not a constant worry for a newbie when pressing a power button and hoping it will start. The most powerful tool in MX for at least is "Snapshot" ability to create a ISO image and get it installed if major happens. The only grip is it's not using systemd which is required by some apps to function, it's mentioned
https://mxlinux.org/about-us/ but I don't fully understand what it means.
I appreciate all the hard work for creating great OS.
If you use the 'MX-Tools' Boot Options you can direct your system to boot with systemd and then all applications that may require systemd will work as you expect. There is a great variance of opinion about systemd but the fact is it is largely a systemd world out there and if you don't have any particular reason to avoid systemd then MX is happy to work with it..
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Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:21 pm
by nirav
Will it break anything? I'm not proficient in Linux
Re: Plasma updates
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:31 pm
by AVLinux
nirav wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:21 pm
Will it break anything? I'm not proficient in Linux
Well, it certainly shouldn't and MX is designed to do both... BUT also "If it ain't broke don't fix it..." Don't make any changes you're not comfortable with or don't fully understand, systemd isn't going anywhere so enjoy MX as it is and once you get your feet wet you can look at trying new things..
