Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:02 pm
thanks I will look into it. might be in the app itself, not really the pi.
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Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:45 pm
Sounds pretty complicated, so I guess we should stay with FF. Some considerations:dolphin_oracle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:32 pm because of the browser link on the panel, I would need to create and maintain a separate Xfce desktop defaults package, set to conflict with the existing destkop-defaults-xfce-mx-desktop package. there are two files that would need to be different to accommodate a change in default browser.
I would also need instructed on how to add our links to a default chromium setup, keeping in mind there is no default browser profiles included, and there won't be.
anyway, if folks want to change, we can make it happen.
1) raspi-config has an entry for browser choice and, IIRC, RPi OS comes with both installed; I made the switch thinking that it might see that the other browser wasn't installed and install iit, but no
2) the RPi people specify chromium-browser: is that the same as what we have in MXPI?
3) I tried to install libwidevinecmd0 after installing the MXPI Chromium but it can't be found. When I tested earlier (I think I was using chromium-browser) it was available so I wrote the RPI Tips to include it. I'll test again.
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:54 pm
the chromium pi entry currently installsJerry3904 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:45 pmSounds pretty complicated, so I guess we should stay with FF. Some considerations:dolphin_oracle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:32 pm because of the browser link on the panel, I would need to create and maintain a separate Xfce desktop defaults package, set to conflict with the existing destkop-defaults-xfce-mx-desktop package. there are two files that would need to be different to accommodate a change in default browser.
I would also need instructed on how to add our links to a default chromium setup, keeping in mind there is no default browser profiles included, and there won't be.
anyway, if folks want to change, we can make it happen.
1) raspi-config has an entry for browser choice and, IIRC, RPi OS comes with both installed; I made the switch thinking that it might see that the other browser wasn't installed and install iit, but no
2) the RPi people specify chromium-browser: is that the same as what we have in MXPI?
3) I tried to install libwidevinecmd0 after installing the MXPI Chromium but it can't be found. When I tested earlier (I think I was using chromium-browser) it was available so I wrote the RPI Tips to include it. I'll test again.
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maintaining another package isn't my first choice, but if firefox is unlivable might be unavoidable.
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:01 pm
It would be irritating for a Pi 4 user, but if they have used FF with another Pi OS they would at least expect it. Performance once Firefox has started is OK, so perhaps best to leave it as default.
Chris
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:17 pm
Agreed.
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:19 pm
I dont suppose librewolf available as an alternative browser ?
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:23 am
LibreWolf is available from the Package Installer as a Flatpak.
The first time you select that tab, you will be prompted to install flatpak. Once that has completed you can use the search box to find and install LibreWolf. It won't show in the menu until you reboot.
As it's Firefox based, LibreWolf will be slow to start, especially on a Pi 4. Once started, performance seems OK.
HTH
Chris
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:21 am
I installed chromium-browser and purged firefox, and after the first couple of launches it is clearly much faster. Have it set to a dark theme with a simple DDG search page for startup and new tabs. I will be staying with it for my own system.
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:14 pm
Thank you, Chris..I have not yet looked at ''flatpacs' ..but did notice them. Shall do some more reading and use that as an exercise to find out how they work.
Re: MX-23 Rpi Respin -- Beta testing
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:31 pm
Back to the browser question, I have a proposal for consideration:
--install the RPi Chromium straight from the repo as default
--add no bookmarks (I believe RPi does not either--will check), pretty confident that the user will find what s/he needs; it's different from our standard scenario because there is no Live session and everything is essentially in front of the user's eyes. Maybe reconsider a desktop "Help" folder with FAQ, Manual, RPi-Tips and Forum link?
--say in the Final announcement something like this:
--install the RPi Chromium straight from the repo as default
--add no bookmarks (I believe RPi does not either--will check), pretty confident that the user will find what s/he needs; it's different from our standard scenario because there is no Live session and everything is essentially in front of the user's eyes. Maybe reconsider a desktop "Help" folder with FAQ, Manual, RPi-Tips and Forum link?
--say in the Final announcement something like this:
I'm thinking that would remove the extra work DO has described and provide a solid rationale as well for the choice.Unlike our other MX-Linux versions, MX-23 RPi Respin supplies Chromium as default browser because of its significantly better performance during development testing. Users preferring Firefox can easily obtain it [will they get the RPi version?] with MX Package Installer.