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MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:40 am
by davidy
Simply amazing that MX has been #1 on distrowatch practically since I started using it. MX is like the glitch in the matrix lol.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:35 am
by entropyfoe
Yup, it is amazing, the little distro that could. :number1:

By accident I met a guy at work today that uses MX on several machines, he loves it!
What a coincidence.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:08 pm
by Arnox
Distrowatch popularity ratings have never been any sort of reliable, but regardless... MX Linux is a really damn good distro and if any distro should be #1, it's MX.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:59 pm
by siamhie
DW's Page Hit Ranking (previously called HPD or Hits Per Day) system is just a measure of individuals visiting that distro's page on DW. Don't take it as a measurement of popularity/best/user base, etc.
Think of it more like that random car crash you happen upon. Everyone is going to slow down and check it out. I discovered MX when I was looking for Debian based distro through a general web
search and not what DW listed.

DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking

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The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics have attracted plenty of attention and feedback over the years. 
Originally, each distribution-specific page was pure HTML with a third-party counter at the bottom to monitor interest of visitors. 
In May 2004 the site switched from publicly viewable third-party counters to internal counters. This was prompted by a continuous abuse 
of the counters by a handful of undisciplined individuals who had confused DistroWatch with a poll station. The counters are no longer 
displayed on the individual distributions pages, but all visits are logged. Only one hit per IP address per day is counted.

The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring the popularity of Linux distributions and other free 
operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure 
the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

The tables below display the average number of page hits for each distribution over a given period of time. To see information on page hit trends 
over a set period of time, please see our Page Hit Ranking Trends page. To see how our readers rank distributions based on visitor-submitted ratings, 
please see our Ranking page.

The figures in the third column of each table represent the average number of hits per day (HPD) for the specified period. 
The tables are updated daily at around 30 minutes past midnight GMT.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:04 pm
by hebelwirkung
Probably the only thing Distrowatch sort of reliably tells us is that some distros are talked about more often/have a higher profile/benefit from better "propaganda" than others.

I find the page useful simply for an overview of what's out there. Doesn't tell me anything about the quality of individual distros, but I can test them for myself. Recently I retried Manjaro (good but a handful of niggly little problems), Endeavour (kind of okay) and several Mint versions (Cinnamon still feels soooooo rigid and cumbersome, and what's with all the Ubuntu-enforced snap crap?) No way will I give up MX (Xfce) for any of them - in terms of reliability, stability, extra tools, quality of forum and much more good stuff it's unbeatable.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:29 pm
by Arnox
hebelwirkung wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:04 pm Cinnamon still feels soooooo rigid and cumbersome,
How so?

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:09 pm
by manyroads
Arnox wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:29 pm
hebelwirkung wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:04 pm Cinnamon still feels soooooo rigid and cumbersome,
How so?
Personal preferences are always intriguing. :confused:

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:37 am
by hebelwirkung
manyroads wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:09 pm [Personal preferences are always intriguing. :confused:
True, it's a personal preference :-) And to be fair, Mint is, and has been, rock solid, nothing wrong with it on that score at all.

Well it's little things that put me off Cinnamon, like customization which - compared to xfce - seems rather limited, then having to go through half a million steps just to install librewolf so I'm not having to deal with a snap version of firefox. Okay, I guess there's a non-snap one in the repos though I didn't bother to check; plus I spent a couple of years on LMDE years ago, and that became more and more bothersome. So probably my judgment is clouded by past experience and prejudice, but in the end it all boils down to ease and smoothness of use, and in that regard xfce beats the pants of cinnamon. Ram usage too, btw. And MX doesn't force you to go down snap lane like Mint xfce does.

Also there's plain old muscle memory. I'm so used to Xfce now that to get me to be doing things differently, or adjusting to a different DE philosophy, that environment needs to be unbelievably persuasive. And Cinnamon for me just isn't :bagoverhead:

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:00 am
by Adrian
I hope we drop from the first place. We've been accused for cheating "how come a distro we never heard of is on the first place" and we attracted a number of trolls because of this stupid rank.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:13 am
by Mauser
Adrian wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:00 am I hope we drop from the first place. We've been accused for cheating "how come a distro we never heard of is on the first place" and we attracted a number of trolls because of this stupid rank.
Why lower yourself to their level? :confused: I wouldn't be concerned about it since that comes from members of a broken Linux distro that is known to have the most dishonest, nasty lying members along with the head developer being the worst of them all. They have absolute zero credibility. They have no room to talk. If anyone who would cheat, it would be them. Why would anyone care about a bunch of losers? :confused: Those are the reasons and then some that I don't use that distro anymore and never will, even at gun point. It's not hard to know which distro it is for those that ever tried it. I laugh when they make ludicrous accusations. :rofl:

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:22 pm
by KBD
While not accurate it has to mean something about a distro staying in the public eye. I remember when Mint was at the top for ages, before that Ubuntu. Debian in general has seen a resurgence in popularity and that has likely aided MX. Google has Debian as default on Chromebooks via Crostini. Ubuntu seems to regularly make controversial changes while Debian remains a constantly solid distro.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:38 pm
by richb
From the Distrowatch explanation of the listing:
They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.
So in my view it is somewhat self-perpetuating. People seeing MX as number 1 will naturally go to the MX Distrowatch page, to see what it is all about, which of course increases the page hits. It is no indication of whether they like what the see, being just a counter.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pm
by FullScale4Me
DistroWatch Project Ranking - Rankings of projects based on visitor ratings. MX Linux is #21 with an 8.58 rating out of 10. IMHO this is what should be on the DistroWatch front page!

Page hits are so 90's web nerdish. When I managed some non-profit websites it wasn't long into the new millennium (2005?) that I abolished hit counters.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:35 pm
by Stevo
FullScale4Me wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pm DistroWatch Project Ranking - Rankings of projects based on visitor ratings. MX Linux is #21 with an 8.58 rating out of 10. IMHO this is what should be on the DistroWatch front page!

Page hits are so 90's web nerdish. When I managed some non-profit websites it wasn't long into the new millennium (2005?) that I abolished hit counters.
I agree, because fanboi trolls have never ever posted dishonest reviews of other distros... 9_9

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:47 pm
by davidy
Distrowatch could rename themselves MXLinuxwatch for all I care. If it aint broke don't fix it.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:40 am
by Arnox
FullScale4Me wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pm DistroWatch Project Ranking - Rankings of projects based on visitor ratings. MX Linux is #21 with an 8.58 rating out of 10. IMHO this is what should be on the DistroWatch front page!

Page hits are so 90's web nerdish. When I managed some non-profit websites it wasn't long into the new millennium (2005?) that I abolished hit counters.
Yeah, but the first result is AcademiX, which I'm sure is a fine distro, but I've literally never heard of it until now.
KBD wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:22 pm Debian in general has seen a resurgence in popularity and that has likely aided MX.
Well... I have been chearleading for MX on other sites for a little bit. lol

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:44 am
by siamhie
Arnox wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:40 am
FullScale4Me wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:47 pm DistroWatch Project Ranking - Rankings of projects based on visitor ratings. MX Linux is #21 with an 8.58 rating out of 10. IMHO this is what should be on the DistroWatch front page!

Page hits are so 90's web nerdish. When I managed some non-profit websites it wasn't long into the new millennium (2005?) that I abolished hit counters.
Yeah, but the first result is AcademiX, which I'm sure is a fine distro, but I've literally never heard of it until now.
It depends on the table you look at. There's four to choose from.

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Average rating >100 votes
#1 AcademiX 9.43 (100 reviews)
#22 MX Linux 8.58 (1543 reviews)

Average rating >10 votes
#1 LFS 9.83 (12 reviews)
#68 MX Linux 8.58 (1534 reviews)

Number of votes
#1 MX Linux (1534 reviews)

Average rating
#1 ZevenOS 10.0 (1 review)
#166 MX Linux 8.58 (1534 reviews)

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:34 am
by AVLinux
Hi,

In looking at the DW comments from this past week and discussion of silly concepts like 'best distro of the year" etc... I will say MX is mentioned pretty often in passing as what people are actually using and enjoying as their daily OS in a comments section that isn't responding to an actual MX release that week... It's places like this I think we can kind of extrapolate where public opinion is a bit more accurately away from both Hype city and Troll town..

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu ... 7#comments

Candid mentions like this tell me the number 1 ranking is probably more connected with reality than the naysayers may indicate.. Anyway it makes me very glad to MX getting the kind of quiet real-world praise that it and it's phenomenal developers deserve on a daily basis. Well done!

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:01 am
by 8bit
AVLinux wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:34 am away from both Hype city and Troll town..
I would love to see the VIN diagram of Hype City and Troll Town.
it and it's phenomenal developers deserve
That.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:02 am
by alextone
AVLinux wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:34 am Hi,

In looking at the DW comments from this past week and discussion of silly concepts like 'best distro of the year" etc... I will say MX is mentioned pretty often in passing as what people are actually using and enjoying as their daily OS in a comments section that isn't responding to an actual MX release that week... It's places like this I think we can kind of extrapolate where public opinion is a bit more accurately away from both Hype city and Troll town..

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu ... 7#comments

Candid mentions like this tell me the number 1 ranking is probably more connected with reality than the naysayers may indicate.. Anyway it makes me very glad to MX getting the kind of quiet real-world praise that it and it's phenomenal developers deserve on a daily basis. Well done!
Thanks for posting this link. There's some useful stuff in the site.

The phone (Fairphone4) looks interesting.

https://murena.com/smartphones/

Alex.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:28 pm
by Adrian
Can we hack Distrowatch to downgrade MX rank?

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:07 am
by Eadwine Rose
It's getting tiring to hear about this all the time, huh. :laugh:

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:59 pm
by Arnox
Adrian wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:28 pm Can we hack Distrowatch to downgrade MX rank?
MX Linux too OP, pls nerf.

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:10 am
by baldyeti
Adrian wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:00 am I hope we drop from the first place. We've been accused for cheating "how come a distro we never heard of is on the first place" and we attracted a number of trolls because of this stupid rank.
Cheer up Adrian, gently take the praise and ignore the trolls ! That top DW spot (however unscientific it may be) brings new users to MX and hence a top-notch linux experience. A debian stable base with cherry-picked updated packages is the perfect (and perfectly executed!) formula that wins MX its deserved accolades. Thanks to all the MX team members for their wonderful collective effort. An a happy new year already !

Re: MX Linux Distrowatch #1

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:00 am
by Paul..
Arnox wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:59 pm
Adrian wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:28 pm Can we hack Distrowatch to downgrade MX rank?
MX Linux too OP, pls nerf.
Ha,ha...you must playing War Thunder..