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How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:45 am
by keos
Hello,
How to install an older version than the one currently running on the system. In my particular case I am referring to 'Bibletime'. Apparently it has a problem.
Thank you.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:58 am
by Jerry3904
You can download the deb directly for the Debian version you want to use. For Buster, scroll down this page, then click on the package architecture you need to see the download sites:
https://packages.debian.org/buster/bibletime
I don't know if it will run on Bullseye, but there's only one way to find out...
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:22 am
by Jerry3904
I should add that if it does run and you decide to keep it, you will want to open Synaptic, highlight that package and click Package > Lock version. Otherwise the package tool (apt) will keep wanting to upgrade it.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:23 am
by keos
The option: [bibletime_2.11.2-11.debian.tar.xz] after the download ...
- it has no a way of how to install ... is a debian package, no executable, no README ...
The other way: Download bibletime amd64
I cannot follow instruction, it says that in /etc/apt/sources.list ... (it does not exist)
*Is it possible to ask in the corresponding section of this forum to install the stable package on the system? I ask it because I do not know if we can ask for to install a previous versions.
Thanks.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:30 am
by user-green
Is there any problem?
Usually, people do not have to install older versions, but if you would,
then you should try the previous MX 19 version and install the older version of Bibletime.
You can use MX 19 as Live USB, so you are not required to install it to HDD drive.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:30 am
by Eadwine Rose
Inside that file for me it says:
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#this file is empty by default. Sources are under /etc/apt/sources.list.d
When I look in there all is there. Be careful when editing though, always make a backup.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:40 pm
by keos
This is what i have:
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Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:10 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
keos wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:23 am
The option: [bibletime_2.11.2-11.debian.tar.xz] after the download ...
- it has no a way of how to install ... is a debian package, no executable, no README ...
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/ma ... _amd64.deb
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm
by keos
Not installed by gdebi
EDIT: I mean gdebi does not install it.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:40 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Right click on it, and choose the option in the menu not gdebi.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:48 pm
by keos
I do not understand.
If I right click on the package, after downloading it, it gives me the option to install it with gdebi, but it doesn't do it.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:36 pm
by Eadwine Rose
The option that says "install deb files", further down. It's not gdebi.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:53 pm
by keos
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Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
Creando árbol de dependencias... Hecho
Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho
Nota, seleccionando «bibletime» en lugar de «/home/keos/Descargas/bibletime_2.11.2-11_amd64.deb»
No se pudieron instalar algunos paquetes. Esto puede significar que
usted pidió una situación imposible o, si está usando la distribución
inestable, que algunos paquetes necesarios aún no se han creado o se
han sacado de «Incoming».
La siguiente información puede ayudar a resolver la situación:
Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
bibletime : Depende: libsword-1.8.1 pero no es instalable
Depende: bibletime-data (= 2.11.2-11) pero no va a instalarse
E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos.
press any key to close
My translation:
"Note, selecting "bibletime" instead of "/home/keos/Downloads/bibletime_2.11.2-11_amd64.deb".
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that
you asked for an impossible situation or, if you are using unstable distribution, that some needed
unstable distribution, that some necessary packages have not yet been created or have been removed from "Incoming".
have been removed from "Incoming".
The following information may help to resolve the situation:"
*It is saying too that there is a dependency problem with:
but ... that is not going to be installed. And it add that i broked some packages
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:22 pm
by Stevo
keos wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:23 am
The option: [bibletime_2.11.2-11.debian.tar.xz] after the download ...
- it has no a way of how to install ... is a debian package, no executable, no README ...
The other way: Download bibletime amd64
I cannot follow instruction, it says that in /etc/apt/sources.list ... (it does not exist)
*Is it possible to ask in the corresponding section of this forum to install the stable package on the system? I ask it because I do not know if we can ask for to install a previous versions.
Thanks.
The actual program is in one or more .deb files, not a debian.tar.xz file. The latter has various files that are used by the Debian package building framework to build those .deb files from the source code files, which are the ones with .orig in the file name.
And installing with apt with the right-click should not have broken anything. It should have just refused to install because the older bibletime also needs those other packages from Buster.
Maybe an appImage is available for the program...or maybe the unknown problems you have with the newer version could have workarounds if you asked about those.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:43 pm
by keos
I don't know anything about it, I only see that i can't install it with gdebi and can't get it with right click>install deb files.
I removed the bibletime package and purged its settings, nothing is left of it on my system.
No, I don't have any broken packages, I already checked that, everything is fine.
Maybe a developer can install the stable version bibletime_2.11.2-11 for Synaptic and left the new version in mx-installer -- but no one has told me if I can ask for this request or not ...
Thanks.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:03 am
by Eadwine Rose
You can always ask in a request on the package requests subforum. Whether it gets done is up to the devs.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:07 am
by Huckleberry Finn
keos wrote: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:43 pm... I only see that i can't install it with gdebi ...
In the meantime,
that's just another issue "in general", not something specific to that package / .deb file.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:47 am
by user-green
In such a situation, you should report bugs that you discovered in a new version of Bibletime to the upstream.
In the meantime, I recommend you to use MX-19, as the older version is still supported.
The point is that installing of the old version in Bullseye base causes dependency problems as you could see at
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/bibletime --> "Other Packages Related to bibletime"
If you install the old version, many other applications which depend the same but different version of libraries might not work afterwards.
Thus, there is a possibility that your computer will get a system-wide damage.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:13 pm
by keos
Some developer already did some work.
The new version is available in the MX installer (MX Repo-test) bibletime 3.0.3-1
Now we can install the works, bibles, etc. but there is still pending the setting of fonts and colours for the text and the background -- there is no way to configure it and that is very important for those of us who have visual problems.
Re: How to install an old application?.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:07 pm
by Eadwine Rose
You should report that upstream. As in: with the Bibletime folks.