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Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:11 am
by LU344928
@handy In addition to what was said above and in case you missed it, there's a vid by DO on how to make a full-featured live-usb from one made with dd or the like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVgGMhP1d4

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 7:37 pm
by BitJam
handy wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:01 amMy dd command has not locked up other sticks that I've made in the past (they weren't MX though).
If by "locked up" you mean read-only then you might be mistaken. AFAIK using the "dd" command from an iso file always creates an iso9660 file system on the usb device which is inherently read-only. If I'm wrong and "dd" can now create a read-write usbs then I would love to know about it since it would probably make sense for us to change how we do thing to take advantage of this.

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 10:35 pm
by figueroa
I don't know why MX or antiX doesn't put all this in one coherent place on their web site, but for now, I think this is the most inclusive guide:
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... tence.html

If you made your live usb with DD, then after booting from it, use MX-Live-USB maker to make another proper one. Or, get the AppImage version of the MX-Live-USB-Maker from the following location and make a proper Live-USB using it. Then you can have a USB flash drive with proper persistence.
https://github.com/dolphinoracle/lum-qt ... e/releases

ADDED: Also, read through the help screens on the Live-USB boot menu.

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 11:23 pm
by handy
Thanks @AVLinux I'll check it out, it could save me an great deal of time. Things that were obvious to me once, these days can cause me to struggle for a solution.

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 11:25 pm
by handy
LU344928 wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 8:11 am @handy In addition to what was said above and in case you missed it, there's a vid by DO on how to make a full-featured live-usb from one made with dd or the like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVgGMhP1d4
Thanks @LU344928 I'll check that out, DO makes great vids (if they are all like the one that I have seen).

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 11:28 pm
by handy
BitJam wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 7:37 pm
handy wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:01 amMy dd command has not locked up other sticks that I've made in the past (they weren't MX though).
If by "locked up" you mean read-only then you might be mistaken. AFAIK using the "dd" command from an iso file always creates an iso9660 file system on the usb device which is inherently read-only. If I'm wrong and "dd" can now create a read-write usbs then I would love to know about it since it would probably make sense for us to change how we do thing to take advantage of this.
OK @BitJam I think I must have been mistaken. When it comes down to it, no other .iso file that I've put on stick has had Persistence ability for me to test it. I didn't really think about what I was saying. ;)

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 11:42 pm
by handy
figueroa wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 10:35 pm I don't know why MX or antiX doesn't put all this in one coherent place on their web site, but for now, I think this is the most inclusive guide:
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... tence.html

If you made your live usb with DD, then after booting from it, use MX-Live-USB maker to make another proper one. Or, get the AppImage version of the MX-Live-USB-Maker from the following location and make a proper Live-USB using it. Then you can have a USB flash drive with proper persistence.
https://github.com/dolphinoracle/lum-qt ... e/releases

ADDED: Also, read through the help screens on the Live-USB boot menu.
@figueroa I obviously agree with you that it really would be nice to have all of the related info in one place. It would certainly make it a lot easier for those just starting out with these amazing tools for working with removable memory sticks.

I expect that the reason that it hasn't happened is due to the amount of time it would take someone to go through it & bring it all together. It would likely be quicker for someone in the know to just write a comprehensive guide that is linked in the wiki & on a "sticky" page in the forum.

Once upon a time I would have taken on the job. I don't think I have it in me these days, my memory is kaput!

[edit] figueroa I just checked out the anitx page you linked to, it is the best I've seen thus far. It was written in 2013. :)

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 12:06 am
by MXRobo
figueroa wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 10:35 pm I don't know why MX or antiX doesn't put all this in one coherent place on their web site, but for now, I think this is the most inclusive guide:
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... tence.html
IMHO, this doesn’t help the cohesiveness of persistence guidelines either as I’ve seen both frequently referenced -
AntiX 19 & AntiX 17.
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... tence.html
IIRC, there is/was only one difference between the two, but….

HTH

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:05 am
by handy
MXRobo wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 12:06 am
figueroa wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 10:35 pm I don't know why MX or antiX doesn't put all this in one coherent place on their web site, but for now, I think this is the most inclusive guide:
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... tence.html
IMHO, this doesn’t help the cohesiveness of persistence guidelines either as I’ve seen both frequently referenced -
AntiX 19 & AntiX 17.
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/do ... tence.html
IIRC, there is/was only one difference between the two, but….

HTH
Thanks @MXRobo I've bookmarked your valuable addition to the technical reference material that is being accrued in this thread. ;)

Maybe(?) using the quality material that is turning up here I "may" look at writing up a cohesive & comprehensive (as best a user & not a dev can do) reference. Then others could vet it & we could make a "one to rule them all". lol

Maybe...

Re: Persistence - The best guide for all options?

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 4:27 am
by Sparky
Does this guide also apply to MX-21?