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Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:47 pm
by Gaer Boy
Installed OK, basic features working. I've installed mainly for my planned upgrade of motherboard and processor, but that will have to wait until mid-November.

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.14.0-2mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.14.0-2mx-amd64 root=/dev/sda5 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_ahs_rc1_x64 Wildflower October 10  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: FM2A88X-ITX+ serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: P2.10 date: 01/17/2014 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K270 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
           Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M185 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 5% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A8-6500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Piledriver family: 15 (21) model-id: 13 (19) stepping: 1 microcode: 6001119 
           L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 27949 
           Speed: 1693 MHz min/max: 1700/3500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1693 
           2: 1695 3: 1711 4: 1694 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Richland [Radeon HD 8570D] vendor: ASRock driver: radeon v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:990e 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,radeon 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD ARUBA (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.14.0-2mx-amd64 LLVM 12.0.1) 
           v: 4.3 Mesa 21.2.1 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Trinity HDMI Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:9902 
           Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.14.0-2mx-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: AzureWave 
           driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f100 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0034 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASRock driver: alx 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1969:10a1 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.05 TiB used: 5.98 GiB (0.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM005 HD103SJ size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 00E5 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Toshiba model: HDWD110 size: 931.51 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> 
           rev: A8J0 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 30.00 GiB size: 29.36 GiB (97.87%) used: 5.98 GiB (20.4%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sdb11 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 21.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 13 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 221 Uptime: N/A Memory: 6.71 GiB used: 702.4 MiB (10.2%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
I think I will need Mesa 21.3 for my Ryzen 5 5600G, unless someone knows otherwise.

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:26 pm
by SwampRabbit
Gaer Boy wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:47 pm I think I will need Mesa 21.3 for my Ryzen 5 5600G, unless someone knows otherwise.
This may be true, newer firmware will also be needed. We'll be adding a newer Mesa (21.2.3) to MX-21 AHS shortly, but I don't see the support we want added.

21.3.0 is still the development branch for Mesa upstream, they are working on it daily for sure.

Let me see if I can't get a version of 21.3.0 development done though.

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:25 am
by SwampRabbit
NOTICE: users should see updates Mesa, libdrm, and a few other planned updates coming down the AHS pipe, when you get them may be dependent on your repo mirror.

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:13 am
by jbernardo
dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:11 am you can get everything by add the "ahs" repo (mx-repo-manager) and doing an update.
I just did that rather than downloading the image again, and most things updated to AHS. The only thing I noticed was that the 5.14 kernel is available only as linux-image-5.14.0-2mx-amd64-unsigned, no signed version yet, and the metapackage linux-image-amd64 is still at 5.10.70-1.
Now I am wondering if the AHS image has the 5.14 signed version and the updated metapackage, or they aren't mature yet even for an RC.
Anyway - I'll wait. The patches I need for sound support will only be in 5.15 or even later, so I'm not in a hurry.

Another missing package from the repos is aptik - but I had kept a copy so I'd be able to restore some stuff.

And with the minor niggles out of the way, I must say the RC is very stable and "feels" snappier that MX19. No issues at all until now. The live image new grub menus are also very good, and I do like the installer.
Great work guys, congratulations!

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:30 am
by SwampRabbit
Thanks for the feedback, I'll let someone else answer the question on the kernels as I'm not involved in that.
jbernardo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:13 am Another missing package from the repos is aptik - but I had kept a copy so I'd be able to restore some stuff.
aptik is no longer FOSS, we can't include it if we wanted to, and it can only be purchased for personal use. I guess... maybe we could include a really old version but that might lead to issues.
Terms & Conditions

The app is licensed under the terms of this EULA. This is a standard EULA that allows you to use the app but does not allow re-distribution and re-selling.
The personal license is associated with a single user rather than a single machine. You are welcome to use it on any number of machines where you are the primary user, including at work. The license cannot be used by multiple people.
Using this app in a business environment requires as many licenses as the number of people using it.
Your license will be sent to the email address you provide when making the payment. Please provide a reliable email address.
Refunds are available within 14 days from purchase (2 weeks). Please send me an email if you are not satisfied with the app and wish to claim a refund.
https://teejeetech.com/product/aptik/
The free version of Aptik is more than a year old and is no longer maintained. There may be issues when restoring to newer distributions.
https://github.com/teejee2008/aptik/blo ... /README.md

Hard to pick on this fact as the developer does have FOSS applications that many people use daily, everyone has to make $ to put food on the table, if people don't contribute with code, donations, or other things... this stuff happens.

Enough of me rambling... back to AHS feedback. ;)

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:39 am
by jbernardo
SwampRabbit wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:30 am Thanks for the feedback, I'll let someone else answer the question on the kernels as I'm not involved in that.
jbernardo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:13 am Another missing package from the repos is aptik - but I had kept a copy so I'd be able to restore some stuff.
aptik is no longer FOSS, we can't include it if we wanted to, and it can only be purchased for personal use. I guess... maybe we could include a really old version but that might lead to issues.
Ouch... That is annoying. I can understand the dev wanting to earn money from it, but it still is annoying.
It makes sense you don't keep the old version anymore, then.
Thanks for the explanation!

Now, to find an alternative... I can always go back to my old scripts, should be around somewhere. Basically all that is needed is to backup cache, the installed package list, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. Maybe /etc/group, /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow pertinent lines also.

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:11 am
by Gaer Boy
I'm not sure whether this should be in this topic, but there's nowhere else relevant. I installed the AHS RC1 version yesterday and when I rebooted to my fully-updated Beta 1 version I saw this:
language.png
I know nothing of a language change, the proposed standard names are folders I delete and replace with symlinks on all my installs. This has never happened before and I've been using RC1 as my daily driver since the beginning of August, booting back to MX-19 occasionally to update and installing Ubuntu and booting to and fro. This dialogue appeared only after installing AHS and now appears each time I boot Beta 1.

Any hints on where to look?

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: FM2A88X-ITX+ serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: P2.10 date: 01/17/2014 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K270 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
           Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M185 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 5% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A8-6500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Piledriver family: 15 (21) model-id: 13 (19) stepping: 1 microcode: 6001119 
           L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 27947 
           Speed: 1839 MHz min/max: 1700/3500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2557 
           2: 2671 3: 2130 4: 2179 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Richland [Radeon HD 8570D] vendor: ASRock driver: radeon v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:990e 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: ati,radeon 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD ARUBA (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.0-9-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Trinity HDMI Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:9902 
           Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-9-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: AzureWave 
           driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f100 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0034 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASRock driver: alx 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1969:10a1 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.05 TiB used: 209.50 GiB (10.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM005 HD103SJ size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 00E5 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Toshiba model: HDWD110 size: 931.51 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> 
           rev: A8J0 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 30.00 GiB size: 29.36 GiB (97.87%) used: 10.06 GiB (34.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sdb11 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 22.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 15 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dropbox.list 
           1: deb [arch=i386,amd64] http://linux.dropbox.com/debian/ sid main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
           1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:      Processes: 234 Uptime: 15m Memory: 6.71 GiB used: 1.33 GiB (19.8%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:22 am
by PeterO
Testing Live on my laptop with Intel's Tiger Lake chip-set, works fine from what I can see. Not yet tested the HDMI which seems to be the "difficult" one. Other features like audio and mouse works out-of-the box - as expected.
I have been, and still am until RC -> standard release, meddling with Manjaro (5.14 and all that; works fine but isn't MX).

Well done!

//P

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:29 am
by dolphin_oracle
Gaer Boy wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:11 am I'm not sure whether this should be in this topic, but there's nowhere else relevant. I installed the AHS RC1 version yesterday and when I rebooted to my fully-updated Beta 1 version I saw this:language.png
I know nothing of a language change, the proposed standard names are folders I delete and replace with symlinks on all my installs. This has never happened before and I've been using RC1 as my daily driver since the beginning of August, booting back to MX-19 occasionally to update and installing Ubuntu and booting to and fro. This dialogue appeared only after installing AHS and now appears each time I boot Beta 1.

Any hints on where to look?

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-9-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_beta1_x64 Wildflower July 27  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: FM2A88X-ITX+ serial: <filter> 
           UEFI: American Megatrends v: P2.10 date: 01/17/2014 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K270 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
           Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M185 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 5% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A8-6500 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Piledriver family: 15 (21) model-id: 13 (19) stepping: 1 microcode: 6001119 
           L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 27947 
           Speed: 1839 MHz min/max: 1700/3500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2557 
           2: 2671 3: 2130 4: 2179 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Richland [Radeon HD 8570D] vendor: ASRock driver: radeon v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:990e 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: ati,radeon 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD ARUBA (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.0-9-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Trinity HDMI Audio vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:9902 
           Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-9-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: AzureWave 
           driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f100 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0034 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASRock driver: alx 
           v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 1969:10a1 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.05 TiB used: 209.50 GiB (10.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 250GB size: 232.89 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM005 HD103SJ size: 931.51 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm 
           serial: <filter> rev: 00E5 scheme: MBR 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Toshiba model: HDWD110 size: 931.51 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> 
           rev: A8J0 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 30.00 GiB size: 29.36 GiB (97.87%) used: 10.06 GiB (34.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sdb11 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 22.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 15 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dropbox.list 
           1: deb [arch=i386,amd64] http://linux.dropbox.com/debian/ sid main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
           1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:      Processes: 234 Uptime: 15m Memory: 6.71 GiB used: 1.33 GiB (19.8%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
There was an update in one of the packages that deals with localizing folders. I got the notice too. It should only happen once. @fehlix

Re: MX-21 "ahs" (Xfce) RC1 feedback

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:09 am
by fehlix
Gaer Boy wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:11 am I'm not sure whether this should be in this topic, but there's nowhere else relevant. I installed the AHS RC1 version yesterday and when I rebooted to my fully-updated Beta 1 version I saw this:language.png
Not clear to me what AHS RC1 install might have todo with Beta1.
Please explain.
Gaer Boy wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:11 am I know nothing of a language change, the proposed standard names are folders I delete and replace with symlinks on all my installs. This has never happened before and I've been using RC1 as my daily driver since the beginning of August, booting back to MX-19 occasionally to update and installing Ubuntu and booting to and fro. This dialogue appeared only after installing AHS and now appears each time I boot Beta 1.

Any hints on where to look?
That's probaly the issue, deleting folders will make update standard procedure assume, you don't have those anymore and fallback to home.

To fix it make sure ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and ~/.config/user-dirs.locale
are all properly set.

Alternatively, if you don't care about switching locale and re-localize standard folder names
do remove ~/.config/user-dirs.locale, which will make the standard folder check stop.
Or disable in autostart two entries related to standard folder check "user dir..."

The procedure of localized standard folder names have been fixed in MX21 as it never worked properly in MX-19 and earlier releases.

++EDIT+++:
Note: It might be important for some apps/scripts to have
~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
properly set to the folder/symlinks the user is using.

So do adjust the content of ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs to the one's you use, accordingly.
Otherwise a script wich looks e.g. for Desktop, Download or Pictures folder
might run the standard query to find the current localized path
like

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xdg-user-dir DESKTOP
or

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xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD
or

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xdg-user-dir PICTURES
and might fallback to HOME if not properly set.

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