MX-21 fluxbox beta 2 feedback thread

[siamhie]

The problem I see with not testing the actual beta 2 is the default configs, themes and preinstalled apps may have changed , and those things in themselves may be something worthy of comments and feedback. Those may not be the same as in beta1.

People continuing to post beta1 feedback in these beta2 threads may also confuse the issue if it's related to the above things like default configs etc.

That's why I don't mind starting over with a clean root/home partition with each beta release. There may be some changes that I don't have to set on my end between each test release, plus I can report any problems with my live install.

When the final release comes out, I plan on starting from scratch anyways.

[PPC]

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@Senpai
On the beta 1 thread (wich is now locked) you said:

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Trying the right-click menu entries on the screen:

Between "Run" and "Terminal" there is an empty space, if you press it it launches the "Settings manager", the name is missing to see it and be able to translate it.

I have seen a typo in my Spanish translation, is this menu uploaded to Transifex?

In All App->Accessories (full_menu):
"App Finder" entry is duplicated.
"compton" does nothing and does not show any error, from console it says that it is already running.

In All App->System
Ndivia driver installer, does not work, from MX tools, it works.
MX fix keys, the entry is duplicated and does nothing, from MX tools, it works.

All App->Settings:
Window manager settings, it does nothing...
Window manager, does nothing...

I originally developed the script that generates the "all apps" menu, so I can provide some info about this problems. It basicaly reads all .desktop files in /usr/share/applications, extracting the first "Exec" command it finds, icon and categories, and them sorts everything into the default debian categories- this usually works in a flawless way, but there can be some problematic cases...

*"Window manager"- does nothing because tries to run xfwm4 - wich is incompatible with fluxbox
*the same goes for "Window manager tweaks" (not "settings")
*"compton" - simply launches compton compositor- so, you see no window application open when you run it
*"MX Fix GPG keys" runs the command "xfce4-terminal -e pkexec checkaptgpg --wait-at-end", that reports that "checkaptgpg" is an unknown option- this happens because the first exec line of this .desktop file has this command (although commentend out)- Dev team, please remove the commented Exec line from /usr/share/applications/mx-checkaptgpg.desktop, to fix this problem
*It's supposed to come up twice, because there are 2 .desktop files to fix GPG keys- one is the regular one, the other is for KDE...
*The "nvidia driver installer"- runs su-to-root -c "/usr/local/bin/ddm-mx -i nvidia"- Since this command does not include "xfce4-terminal", this may be the reason why it fails to launch from the menu, I'm not sure on that one...
*App Finder is duplicated- I'm not sure why, I'll try to check it out and get back to you...

[Jerry3904]

Thanks for re-posting.

--MX Fix GPG keys is deprecated and the desktop file should not actually be there IIRC. As can be seen in the Xfce Menu and the MX Tools, the current command works as expected:

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su-to-root -X -c "x-terminal-emulator -e 'bash checkaptgpg --wait-at-end'"

--The App Finder is duplicated b/c there is one for Xfce and one for MXFB. We have, or are going to, taken out the Xfce one.

[PPC]

@Jerry3904
Thanks, I was going to check why App finder was duplicated (I expected it was for a similar reason), you saved me a bit of work...

PS: I tweaked you wallpaper's script and sent it to you via PM, you should be getting it any time now...

P.

[ceeslans]

Re: MX-21 fluxbox beta 1 feedback thread.

--- i_ri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:51 pm
--- hello dolphin_oracle
--- <xfdesktop4> and <xfdesktop4-data> are installed packages (?)

Thanks. I need to check whether they are needed by any of the other Xfce4 packages but it doesn't look like they should be included.
@m_pav I snooped around and can see no reason why these should be included--unless you know of some disaster that would result if we took them out!

I noticed that both 'xfdesktop4' and 'xfdesktop4-data' are still installed. Does that mean these are actually needed? The 'Window Manager' and 'Window Manager Tweaks' no longer appear in the application menu, but 'Desktop' setting (which relates to xfce4 only desktop) still is...

Thunar also includes an xfce4 setting only, ie "Set as wallpaper" .
This can be disabled by renaming file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/thunarx-3/thunar-wallpaper-plugin.so (just add: -disabled to that filename).
But this would only be a temporary solution, as it will be overwritten whenever thunar is version-updated. Perhaps MXFB dev team can stop this?

In any case, it would be great if a wallpaper could be set from filemanager directly on fluxbox' desktop.
An easy way would be by adding a Custom Action in thunar:

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name: Set as Fluxbox wallpaper
description: Set image as Fluxbox background
command: nitrogen --set-auto --save %f
##  (or command: nitrogen --set-zoom-fill --save %f    --> whatever floats your boat)
patterns: image files
icon: preferences-desktop-color

[Jerry3904]

Nice one!

I'm not sure what the situation is with xfdesktop4, will look.

[Jerry3904]

For the various yad boxes to look right, the apps file needs to not include dimensions. I'm currently testing this alternative:

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[app] (name=yad) (class=Yad)
  [Close]	{yes}
[end]

Not sure about close being "yes" because I fear that a setting for on yad dialog would spill over into the next. More testing...

[Jerry3904]

@ceeslans Will that script work for both nitrogen and fehbg? And if it did, will it persist with both? << haven't tried it yet myself...

[ceeslans]

Not a script, just how to create a custom action in thunar --> in this case for setting a wallpaper with nitrogen (being mxfb's default wallpaper application afaik)

EDIT: sorry, the command was not complete.... the correct command is:

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nitrogen --set-zoom-fill --save %f

note: I have updated post #15 accordingly

[Jerry3904]

OK, that makes more sense. I couldn't get your first one to work.

BTW: I did come up for this if the user is running fehbg to manage backgrounds instead of nitrogen

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fbsetbg %f

I'm going to see about some sort of toggle mechanism...

EDIT: we may need a script, since I just thought that we need to be careful that Separate backgrounds is not running. In concept I think this might work:

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if #fehbg is in startup
fbsetbg command
else
nitrogen command
fi