MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:11 am**

Ok, so I have (or perhaps I should say had) windows 10 and I thought it would be cool to install a linux distribution and have a dual boot pc. Well I got my MX-linux installed, I installed the grub or something link that to handle the booting in process. Anyways, I finally figured out how to restart the pc because I wanted to log back into the windows OS. Well, I dont know how to get back. I thought I was going to just have the a screen pop up that would let me choose which OS I wanted to log into. Well thats not the case, how do i get back???

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:25 am**

What steps did you take to prepare your computer for the install?

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:30 am**

Open a terminal in your installed MX linux (from the menu or by Ctrl+Alt+T ) and try running :

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 sudo update-grub

(Type Enter and then Enter your password . Note: your password won't appear even as ***** , for security reasons )

Also , pasting Quick System Info (from the menu) in this forum may be helpful.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:44 am**

whoa, ok, i have never used linux, gonna take me a second to answer these questions.

The method I used to install was live usb. I made 3 partitions on an external hard drive that I have (home, swap and root). So I believe that my C drive in windows is safe.

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590S CPU @ 3.00GHz
Memory : 8074MB (2027MB used)
Machine Type : Desktop
Operating System : Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
User Name : demo (Unknown)
Date/Time : Fri 25 Jun 2021 01:43:51 AM MST
-Display-
Resolution : 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Desktop
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
Audio Adapter : USB-Audio - HD Pro Webcam C920
-Input Devices-
Chicony HP Business Slim Keyboard
Chicony HP Business Slim Keyboard Consumer Control
Chicony HP Business Slim Keyboard System Control
Chicony HP Business Slim Keyboard
2.4G Mouse
2.4G Mouse Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
HP WMI hotkeys
HDA Intel PCH Mic
HDA Intel PCH Line
HDA Intel PCH Line Out
HDA Intel PCH Front Headphone
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:3
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:7
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:8
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:9
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:10
HD Pro Webcam C920
ACPI Virtual Keyboard Device
-Printers (CUPS)-
Canon_TS9100_series

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:03 pm**

Please run quick system info, click paste in a reply. Do not edit the output.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:34 pm**

Welcome to Linux, dear @Incogneeto

whoa, ok, i have never used linux, gonna take me a second to answer these questions.

I'll explain in simpler terms.
Sorry for my complicated answer.
You can ask any of us for further details/help/clarification on this forum.

- I assume your newly installed MX linux is fine (not the usb one, but the one on your external hard drive).
- I also assume you don't have any other linux installed on any other hard drive.
Then, go to that very MX linux (not the usb one, but the one on your external hard drive).
1) Go to the menu (probably in the bottom left of your desktop, else use the keyboard key with Windows logo)
2) Now, search for MX Boot repair and open it. (Type your password when asked)
3) Select "Repair GRUB configuration file" -> Apply -> Apply (with the default GRUB location)
4) Wait for it to complete and then close it
5) Now, reboot your system and see if you are presented with a screen asking which OS to boot (Linux, Windows or other advanced options)

To paste the Quick System Info on this forum:
1) Go to the menu (probably in the bottom left of your desktop, else use the keyboard key with Windows logo)
2) Now, search for Quick System Info and open it. A screen with a lot of text appears.
3) Press OK, and just paste it on this forum.

If all that doesn't work, boot to your newly installed MX linux (not the usb one, but the one on your external hard drive) and:
1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T when you reach your desktop (or open the terminal from the Menu). A black screen with your username appears. ( something like windows CMD )
2) Then, type

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 sudo update-grub

in that. Then, press Enter on your keyboard.
3) Now, enter your password if asked. Your password won't appear even like ******* (due to security reasons)
4) Now, wait for it to complete (you will be presented with the next prompt with your username on completion).
5) If you can, please copy-paste the contents of it in this forum.
6) Now, reboot your system and see if you are presented with a screen asking which OS to boot (Linux, Windows or other advanced options)

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:41 pm**

thank you im about to try that

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:46 pm**

ok, heres 1 thing I think maybe you should know before I try that. So if I take my live USB out, I can not log into anything. The window gets stuck at a command prompt sort of window, you know, when its booting up, ......grub...? thats where it locks up.

If I put the live USB in then I can get somewhere. There will be to MX installs to pick from with different dates, one with a march date and one with a june

another thing, in one of those options, i can use the windows key and it actaully does something and in the other one i cant, dont know if any of these things matter

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:49 pm**

ok, heres 1 thing I think maybe you should know before I try that. So if I take my live USB out, I can not log into anything. The window gets stuck at a command prompt sort of window, you know, when its booting up, ......grub...? thats where it locks up.

Yes, that helps a lot.

What I told won't work then ( I had assumed your installed MX linux was fine )

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:51 pm**

oh no is that bad, its bad isnt it... im never gonna see that windows installation again am i

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:52 pm**

i think i know a mistake i made

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:56 pm**

when i was installing linux i changed the default location of root

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:01 pm**

- I assume you are greeted by a grub> prompt or something like that on rebooting.

From your live USB, please insert your external disk with linux and run :

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 sudo lsblk

and copy-paste its output in the forum.

That means to open terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T), type those commands, enter password ( the live USB password is "demo" ) and wait until it completes and you're presented with "demo@demo" in color.

More details on how to open terminal:
1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T when you reach your desktop (or open the terminal from the Menu). A black screen with your username appears. ( something like windows CMD )
2) Then, type

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 sudo lsblk

in that. Then, press Enter on your keyboard.
3) Now, enter your password if asked. Your password won't appear even like ******* (due to security reasons)
4) Now, wait for it to complete and you will be presented with the next prompt with your username (On live USB, it is demo) on completion.

We'll say run

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 this

, run

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 that

and this is what we mean.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:04 pm**

oh no is that bad, its bad isnt it... im never gonna see that windows installation again am i

No, its never like that , unless you intentionally formatted C drive

I just said that method (the one I posted initially) won't work. Other methods will work anyway.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:05 pm**

when i was installing linux i changed the default location of root

What did you change the root location to ?

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:07 pm**

i dont have linux on a disc

i made root my c drive

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:10 pm**

NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
loop0 7:0 0 1.6G 1 loop /live/linux
sda 8:0 0 119.2G 0 disk
├─sda1 8:1 0 50M 0 part
├─sda2 8:2 0 118.7G 0 part /media/demo/FAE4EE8AE4EE4889
└─sda3 8:3 0 534M 0 part
sdb 8:16 0 3.7T 0 disk
├─sdb1 8:17 0 200M 0 part
├─sdb2 8:18 0 529.1G 0 part /media/demo/Expansion
├─sdb3 8:19 0 70.3G 0 part /media/demo/homeMX
├─sdb4 8:20 0 75G 0 part [SWAP]
└─sdb5 8:21 0 61G 0 part
sdc 8:32 1 29.8G 0 disk
├─sdc1 8:33 1 26.8G 0 part /live/boot-dev
└─sdc2 8:34 1 3G 0 part /media/demo/persistence
sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:28 pm**

- I assume your hard disk with Windows is somewhere near 119GB in size.

Please run

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ls /media/demo/FAE4EE8AE4EE4889 | grep -i program

and make sure that your C drive is intact. ( If so, it will output "Program Files" , "ProgramData" etc.,)

If not, please copy-paste its output here.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:40 pm**

correct and yep

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:41 pm**

do you want to remotly access my pc

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:42 pm**

I advise you to not give random access to people just like that. Especially not to not vetted members.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:45 pm**

ls /media/demo/FAE4EE8AE4EE4889 | grep -i program
ProgramData
Program Files
Program Files (x86)

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:47 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:42 pm I advise you to not give random access to people just like that. Especially not to not vetted members.

your right its just i know that an experienced person could fix this

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:01 pm**

Did I get you what you asked for

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:04 pm**

I advise you to not give random access to people just like that. Especially not to not vetted members.

Please don't disgrace me like that.
I NEVER want to access another person's system with remote access.

Please, please don't hurt me.

Whatever I do in this respect WILL and SHOULD be PUBLIC in this forum , and verifiable by any expert / anyone else.

The very spirit of GNU/Linux and Free & Open Source Software is that you shouldn't trust anyone else ...... That makes malware next to impossible.

That is the very reason a lot of "support" scams take place in proprietary malware like Microsoft Windows.

That is also the very reason why those kind of scamming, malware etc., are almost non-existent on GNU/Linux.

I have never heard anyone ask/give remote access to another person's computer in the GNU/Linux world.

Please don't bring that bad tendency to our dear GNU/Linux.

Note for newbies : GNU/Linux is (almost) just another word for Linux, used by hardcore Free and Open Source enthusiasts.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:05 pm**

Now, I am returning to the subject.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:09 pm**

1) Go to the menu (probably in the bottom left of your desktop, else use the keyboard key with Windows logo)
2) Now, search for MX Boot repair and open it. (Type the live USB password, demo , when asked)
3) Select "Repair GRUB configuration file" -> Apply -> Apply (with the root location as /dev/sdb2 -- assuming that is where you installed MX Linux)
4) Wait for it to complete and then close it
5) Now, reboot your system and see if you are presented with a screen asking which OS to boot (Linux, Windows or other advanced options)

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:20 pm**

Thank God. Anyway, your Windows installation ( and all its data in C drive ) is still there, waiting to be booted, as confirmed by the output of

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 ls /media/demo/FAE4EE8AE4EE4889 | grep -i program

Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:07 pm i dont have linux on a disc

i made root my c drive

I thought you had erased your C drive, but no, your C drive is safe.

BTW: By "disk" , I had meant "hard disk".

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:41 pm**

@Incogneeto It is past 12 midnight in my part of the world.
:yawning:
Sleepy now, I'll stay online for some time and then doze off. Coming back tomorrow.

You can ask to the other awesome people here, they can very well support you.
There are experienced and knowledgeable people on this forum, even those developers who actually make MX Linux.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:45 pm**

I tried it, it didnt give me the option to boot into windows

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:50 pm**

Did it give the option to boot into your MX linux on the hard disk ?

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:58 pm**

Anyway, to boot your Windows temporarily, you can go to the MX linux live USB boot menu -> Find EFI bootloaders -> Boot your windows if it is detected.

Similarly, to boot your MX linux on the hard disk,
MX linux live USB boot menu -> Find GRUB menus -> Boot your MX linux on hard disk if it is detected.

Navigation in the boot menu is done by arrow keys on the keyboard, not the mouse.

This is just a temporary workaround.

Dozing off now. Hoping to be back tomorrow morning.......

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:03 pm**

@LionelZaylan, would you might calm down a bit of given "random" advices. We still have not seen the Quick System Info". We are not clear whether it is a UEFI or a BIOS system. It might be a simple issue to solve, but it requires to know the facts before suggesting fixes or random advices to a "novice" linux user.
Thanks

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:08 pm**

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 4.19.0-16-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=en_US 
           tz=America/Phoenix fontsize=1.56 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo March 31  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteDesk 800 G1 USDT v: N/A 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 18E5 serial: <filter> UEFI: Hewlett-Packard 
           v: L01 v02.53 date: 10/20/2014 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-4590S bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell 
           family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 1A L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 23945 
           Speed: 1415 MHz min/max: 800/3700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1348 2: 1106 3: 1198 
           4: 1193 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0412 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Desktop v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
           chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
           Device-3: Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo 
           bus ID: 3-5:3 chip ID: 046d:082d serial: <filter> 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-16-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k 
           port: f080 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:153a 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard AR5BHB92-H 802.11abgn driver: ath9k v: kernel port: f040 
           bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002a 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 3.76 TiB used: 2.12 GiB (0.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: THNSNJ128GCSU size: 119.24 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 0101 temp: 28 C 
           scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Expansion SW size: 3.64 TiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1801 scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 7.27 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 6.11 GiB used: 2.12 GiB (34.8%) fs: overlay 
           source: ERR-102 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 75.03 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sdb4 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 224 Uptime: 11m Memory: 7.70 GiB used: 1.60 GiB (20.7%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:30 pm**

Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:08 pm

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 4.19.0-16-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=en_US 
           tz=America/Phoenix fontsize=1.56 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo March 31  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteDesk 800 G1 USDT v: N/A 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 18E5 serial: <filter> UEFI: Hewlett-Packard 
           v: L01 v02.53 date: 10/20/2014 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 3.76 TiB used: 2.12 GiB (0.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: THNSNJ128GCSU size: 119.24 GiB block size: 
           physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 0101 temp: 28 C 
           scheme: MBR 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Seagate model: Expansion SW size: 3.64 TiB 
           block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1801 scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 7.27 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR

OK, you are booting in UEFI mode from LiveUSB. The system drive /dev/sda
is configuered as a MBR partition scheme, which means Windows have been instaled with
BIOS/MBR mode not UEFI mode.
To get an idea where you have installed what,
can you please show partition layout this way
Open terminal and run:

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sudo parted --list

and

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lsblk --fs

Do copy/paste the text-output between those code-tags [code]like this one[/code].
Thanks

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:50 pm**

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 demo@mx1:~/Desktop
$ sudo parted --list
[sudo] password for demo: 
Model: ATA TOSHIBA THNSNJ12 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 128GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
 1      1049kB  53.5MB  52.4MB  primary  ntfs         boot
 2      53.5MB  127GB   127GB   primary  ntfs
 3      127GB   128GB   560MB   primary  ntfs         diag


Model: Seagate Expansion SW (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 4001GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End    Size    File system     Name                  Flags
 1      20.5kB  210MB  210MB   fat32           EFI System Partition  boot, esp
 2      211MB   568GB  568GB   ntfs                                  msftdata
 3      568GB   644GB  75.5GB  ext4            Home
 4      644GB   724GB  80.6GB  linux-swap(v1)  swap
 5      724GB   790GB  65.5GB  ext4            root


Model: Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 7803MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
 1      4129kB  7803MB  7799MB  primary  fat32        boot, lba

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:52 pm**

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NAME   FSTYPE   LABEL           UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINT
loop0  squashfs                                                                     /live/linux
sda                                                                                 
├─sda1 ntfs     System Reserved 84FAEC02FAEBEE7C                                    
├─sda2 ntfs                     FAE4EE8AE4EE4889                                    
└─sda3 ntfs                     2832217B32214EDE                                    
sdb                                                                                 
├─sdb1 vfat     EFI             67E3-17ED                                           
├─sdb2 ntfs     Expansion       7222F26922F23229                                    
├─sdb3 ext4     homeMX          22ad228a-bd9a-47f0-95e3-151a13e354cc                
├─sdb4 swap     swapMX          70354cf7-03b6-4a53-899a-065072a2c0b9                [SWAP]
└─sdb5 ext4     rootMX19        0b32a1d3-179e-45dc-9c45-cb36ce20dd35                
sdc                                                                                 
└─sdc1 vfat     KINGSTON        EA14-F594                                           /live/boot-dev
sr0  [lsblk --fs]

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:57 pm**

should i make a windows live usb drive

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:01 pm**

Incogneeto, can you hit the little pencil icon to edit that post with code and add those code tags around it like Fehlix explained?

You can also add comments to the post that way to avoid clutter. Thanks :)

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:07 pm**

Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:57 pm should i make a windows live usb drive

What do want to do with a windows live usb?

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:09 pm**

Did I edit w/ the code thing correctly?

I was thinking that the windows live usb would act like a boot floopy, IDK?

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:19 pm**

Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:50 pm

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sudo parted --list
Model: ATA TOSHIBA THNSNJ12 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 128GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags: 

Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
 1      1049kB  53.5MB  52.4MB  primary  ntfs         boot
 2      53.5MB  127GB   127GB   primary  ntfs
 3      127GB   128GB   560MB   primary  ntfs         diag

If I see it correctly, this issue appears Windows is installed in BIOS-mode.
And you somehow manage to change within the Systemfrmwarer setting (BIOS/UEFI-setting)
from BIOS to UEFI boot mode.
To boot into Windows: Try switch from UEFI mode to BIOS/legacy/CSM boot mode.

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:29 pm**

where do i do that at, in the bios?

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:38 pm**

Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:09 pm Did I edit w/ the code thing correctly?

Yes you did, thank you, makes it easier to read :)

Posted: **Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:17 pm**

Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:29 pm where do i do that at, in the bios?

IIRC, HP's go into UEFI-firmware setup ( aka "BIOS" setup) by pressing Esc at boot/start up.
and further press F10 / F9 (?)., where you would find the Boot priority and BIOS/UEFI settings.
Some do also offer to try to boot first from ESP ( EFI System Partition) and if no valid EFI bootloader found fallback to legacy BIOS mode. In your case you might have installed MX Linux onto the ESP on the external USB-drive and a valid EFI-loader was found, hence it never could boot anymore into legacy-BIOS-mode of the WinOS installation.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:16 am**

thats not working either

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:03 am**

Incogneeto wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:16 am thats not working either

seems we are back to mind reading ... no idea what you have done nor what is not working. ..
The last attempt I would recommend to try before you might go and recover the Window boodloader with help of Windows tools or even need to reinstall Windows, would be this:
Pull out all external USB drives.
Plugin MX Live USB
Make sure you boot in BIOS/legacyCSM mode - you would have the (Fn-key "panel F2..F7 at the bottom of the boot screen)
-> Select Switch to Grub Bootloader
-> Select Boot Rescue menus
-> Find Windows boot loader
If it finds and boots in Windows, it would mean you would only need to "recover" Windows own bootloader
In case it cannot find Windows, I'm afraid, you better save any data from the windows drive and try WinOS tools to recover.
Good luck

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:40 am**

@fehlix
Would it be an idea do you think to suggest to the OP that before doing much else, assuming the Windows partition is still holding the windows files that may be crucial to the OP that a backup of that partition to an external drive be conducted. Then if all else fails and a full Windows reinstall becomes necessary, once said reinstall is completed it might be fairly trivial to recover material from that backed up windows partition? It just occurs to me from reading through this thread that somehow the OP has got into a spiral of sorts and once Windows is restored via a full reinstall then so long as the original partition is backed up he/she may be able to recover.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:48 am**

Maybe it has been suggested already, maybe not, it's gotten long, but is it possible to get into Windows by booting to the bios and selecting to boot that OS from there? Then we at least know if it still works at all.

Just an idea from a person who has had to do that a few times in the past :)

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:17 am**

fehlix wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:17 pm
Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:29 pm where do i do that at, in the bios?
IIRC, HP's go into UEFI-firmware setup ( aka "BIOS" setup) by pressing Esc at boot/start up.
and further press F10 / F9 (?)., where you would find the Boot priority and BIOS/UEFI settings.
Some do also offer to try to boot first from ESP ( EFI System Partition) and if
no valid EFI bootloader found fallback to legacy BIOS mode. I
n your case you might have installed MX Linux onto the ESP on the external USB-drive and a valid EFI-loader was found, hence it never could boot anymore into legacy-BIOS-mode of the WinOS installation.

I was unable to find a windows bootable as a matter of fact when I take the Live MX- Linux usb out, I cant find windows or Linux to log into, and tried every possible combination of entries on the grub menu that pops up.

Thank you to everyone who had taken time out of their day to try and assist me with this mess, I am very appreciative. @Felix, will you direct me to where I can learn how to post with the correct etiquette and format, I just dont know how to and when to use the quotes and what not.

I like the idea of creating another windows install then accessing my partitions from the old windows install to get the files. Would anyone happen to know of a good tutorial they could direct me to for doing that (which the circumstances that I have, such as the MX-Linux on there and also wanting to not harm my former C and D drive.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:22 am**

Oh, 1 other question, this operating system is the one that one on this pc when I got it so I dont have the CD. How will I go about reinstalling Windows and also could me restore points from my current windows come into play when I'm reinstalling windows?

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:55 am**

What version of Windows was it?

When you originally got that desktop, did you make a recovery DVD or a recovery USB drive?

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:01 am**

Incogneeto wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:22 am Oh, 1 other question, this operating system is the one that one on this pc when I got it so I dont have the CD. How will I go about reinstalling Windows and also could me restore points from my current windows come into play when I'm reinstalling windows?

I have a suggestion if you decide to reload Windows. If you had Windows 8 originally on your computer you are still Okay because MS is still supporting it. However, based on the age of your computer, it might be set up with Windows 7 (one of the best Window's offerings). If you are not too picky and just want any Windows for some gaming, old programs, comfort blanket, etc., I notice that since Windows 7 is no longer supported or offered by MS, you can simply download a complete copy of Win 7 from several sources on the Internet, complete with Service Package 1 and all the updates to the point where MS cut them off. Obviously you would want to make sure of the source, and it was clean, etc., however it seems that it is no longer being 'restrained' by MS over copyright, etc.

The reason this might be the way to go is that MS is no longer offering "updates", even the historical ones. This means that if you find the hidden partition on your machine and reload with Win 7, it will be licensed, however it is the "basic", early Win 7, without ANY updates at all. This is not good, since most of the updates over almost 10-years were there to combat hackers. In short, you cannot go to MS's website and start uploading the various Updates, and early, plan-vanilla Win 7 has limited protections.

I have a dual boot with Win 7, but I made sure it has Service Package 1 and all the updates. I use it from time to time, one game in particular I like to play, but usually when I have my router unplugged and am off-line. At first I went there often, and would load some files or pictures onto a USB. I would then unplug the USB, and reboot into MX Linux, put the USB back into my laptop and download the files into Home. Sometimes when I am in Windows 7 I will connect to the Internet for 10-20 minutes while I play solitaire and let Windows update some legacy programs (like my virus checker), after which I dis-connect. You will also discover that because of the close interconnection between the laptop and Win 7 that there are some things you need to go back and turn on, or turn off. For example, WiFi receiver/transmitter can be easily activated 'on', or switched 'off' in Windows, but I have yet to figure out how to do it in Linux. However, the status for WiFi that I set in Windows, carries over into Linux when I re-boot!

But for day-to-day work and particularly on-line I stick with MX for everything.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:12 am**

The QSI is in post #34.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:32 am**

Incogneeto wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:17 am
fehlix wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:17 pm
Incogneeto wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:29 pm where do i do that at, in the bios?
IIRC, HP's go into UEFI-firmware setup ( aka "BIOS" setup) by pressing Esc at boot/start up.
and further press F10 / F9 (?)., where you would find the Boot priority and BIOS/UEFI settings.
Some do also offer to try to boot first from ESP ( EFI System Partition) and if
no valid EFI bootloader found fallback to legacy BIOS mode. I
n your case you might have installed MX Linux onto the ESP on the external USB-drive and a valid EFI-loader was found, hence it never could boot anymore into legacy-BIOS-mode of the WinOS installation.
I was unable to find a windows bootable as a matter of fact when I take the Live MX- Linux usb out, I cant find windows or Linux to log into, and tried every possible combination of entries on the grub menu that pops up.

Thank you to everyone who had taken time out of their day to try and assist me with this mess, I am very appreciative. @Felix, will you direct me to where I can learn how to post with the correct etiquette and format, I just dont know how to and when to use the quotes and what not.

I like the idea of creating another windows install then accessing my partitions from the old windows install to get the files. Would anyone happen to know of a good tutorial they could direct me to for doing that (which the circumstances that I have, such as the MX-Linux on there and also wanting to not harm my former C and D drive.

I like the idea of creating another windows install then accessing my partitions from the old windows install to get the files. Would anyone happen to know of a good tutorial they could direct me to for doing that (which the circumstances that I have, such as the MX-Linux on there and also wanting to not harm my former C and D drive.
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Well assuming you've backed up your partitions to that external drive and then disconnected that external drive (to be safe) you should be able to install Windows all afresh. Then step 2 would involve running the MX live usb and going slowly and carefully partitioning space so that you have Windows and MX. When you choose the bootloader location, put that on the Windows partition and everything else to do with MX in its own partition. Once you've done this, reboot and you should have a dual boot set up. Step 3 would then be to connect that external drive and copy over the files and documents hopefully still residing thereon.

This is the way I would do it however, your mileage may well vary and indeed, other hands might confirm or add suggestions.

Good luck.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:37 am**

What linexer2016 says above is correct. I would also suggest that you review the very detailed instructions from the MX User Manual, which you can download separately -- if you wish -- to a second computer.

I would add also my suggestion from Post #53 a couple above this one. Reason: You need a complete, up-to-date copy of Windows to start, and Win 7, while widely available, is no longer supported by MS.

As for the Internet, just try some search words on YouTube, like "Reloading Windows 7" and later "Dual Boot Windows and Linux".

Also, pay particular attention to "How to Partition HD in Windows". That is one of the trickiest parts to the whole affair.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:29 pm**

Incogneeto, this is Priority Number 1: Boot into a live session of MX, use MX’s file manager to access the hard drive and back up the contents of My Documents, My Photos, My Music etc to a separate USB drive.

You stated that the computer did not come with install media. The computer dates from 2014 so it likely shipped with Win 8.1 and may have been upgraded to Win 10 along the way. If a recovery disk or usb drive was made after the delivery of the computer, it can be used in lieu of an original copy of Windows. If no recovery media was created, you should try to borrow a copy of Windows 8.1 from a friend, colleague, local computer store etc. If on the other hand it was upgraded to Win 10, you should download a copy of Win 10 from Microsoft and burn it to a usb drive. Once the appropriate media is in hand, you should follow these instructions to repair the boot loader:

https://support.novastor.com/hc/en-us/a ... 8-1-and-10

Note that this acticle also covers an MBR recovery.

If these instructions fail to allow you to boot into your existing Windows install, you can install Win 10 using the usb drive you created earlier. Keep in mind that upgrades to Win 10 from earlier versions often failed because the manufacturers of components like video cards and sound cards purposefully did not upgrade their drivers in order to force users to buy new kit. The QSI for your computer shows what components are currently installed, so do your homework and locate / download the appropriate drivers in advance (sometimes, but not always the drivers for Win 8.1 will work with Win 10) and buy new components when there are no Win 10 capable drivers available.

If this was my computer

In order to dual boot, I would first install a second hard drive into the tower. Then I would install Win 10 onto the first hard drive (sda) and Mx onto the second (sdb) and I would install Grub into the EPT partition of sda. Your computer already has the space available for the second hard drive. See here:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03803181.pdf

Running MX from an external hard drive is doable but is not a good solution for the long haul due to the general fragility of usb ports.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:13 pm**

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IIRC, HP's go into UEFI-firmware setup ( aka "BIOS" setup) by pressing Esc at boot/start up.
and further press F10 / F9 (?)., where you would find the Boot priority and BIOS/UEFI settings.
Some do also offer to try to boot first from ESP ( EFI System Partition) and if no valid EFI bootloader found fallback to legacy BIOS mode. In your case you might have installed MX Linux onto the ESP on the external USB-drive and a valid EFI-loader was found, hence it never could boot anymore into legacy-BIOS-mode of the WinOS installation.
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Im going to disconnect the external hard drive and the MX live usb and try to see what I can do.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:47 pm**

I am going to attempt to attach a picture of my screen and the options it shows me. Photos were way to big.

When I disconnected my external hard drive and live usb with mx linux i got a screen that said:
............
welcome to GRUB!
error: no such device: Ob32a1d3-1793................
error: unkown filesystem.
(my screen size is worn the whole screen doesnt show)
**ub rescue>

and thats where im stuck

When I plug back in my live USB w/ mxlinux and still have my external hdd disconected, I get this screen

Welcome to MX-19.4 (patito feo)!

Mx-19.4 (march 21, 2021)
Custom x64 (24 June, 2021)
Mx-19.4 x64 custom boot (text menus)
>>>>>>>Advanced options for MX-19.4 x64<<<<<<<
Memory test (64-bit UEF)
boot rescue menus

I just didnt know if any of this was useful. Is it still looking like the best thing for me to do is to reinstall a fresh copy of windows. If so can i purchase a copy of win10 pro or home and use that. (i do have a copy of win7 on a cd if that is my only option. Im not a gammer but I do use my pc a lot, I would like to have something up to date. Naturally I assume that I am going to install on a new partition, vs on top of my old win 10. During set up of windows it will assist me making a new partition, correct? I would also like to get a linux distribution set up on a hdd vs a jump drive but my main goal is to get windows back up and going. The wife is upset, because I played with things I shouldnt have and now she cant access all of the programs she had on our win10, plus she had software and projects on their, such as the software for her cricket maker, but anyways.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:48 pm**

You don't need to purchase anything. Just download a copy of Win 10 from the Microsoft site and install it. During the install, Win 10 will recognize the licence key from the previous install and re-use it.

Edited to add:

When the Win 10 install routine gets to the point where a licence key should be entered, click on the "Skip this step for now" button. The install will finsh and you won't be prompted for a licence key again.

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:38 pm**

Incogneeto wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:47 pm I am going to attempt to attach a picture of my screen and the options it shows me. Photos were way to big.

When I disconnected my external hard drive and live usb with mx linux i got a screen that said:
............
welcome to GRUB!
error: no such device: Ob32a1d3-1793................
error: unkown filesystem.
(my screen size is worn the whole screen doesnt show)
**ub rescue>

and thats where im stuck

When I plug back in my live USB w/ mxlinux and still have my external hdd disconected, I get this screen

Welcome to MX-19.4 (patito feo)!

Mx-19.4 (march 21, 2021)
Custom x64 (24 June, 2021)
Mx-19.4 x64 custom boot (text menus)
>>>>>>>Advanced options for MX-19.4 x64<<<<<<<
Memory test (64-bit UEF)
boot rescue menus

I just didnt know if any of this was useful. Is it still looking like the best thing for me to do is to reinstall a fresh copy of windows. If so can i purchase a copy of win10 pro or home and use that. (i do have a copy of win7 on a cd if that is my only option. Im not a gammer but I do use my pc a lot, I would like to have something up to date. Naturally I assume that I am going to install on a new partition, vs on top of my old win 10. During set up of windows it will assist me making a new partition, correct? I would also like to get a linux distribution set up on a hdd vs a jump drive but my main goal is to get windows back up and going. The wife is upset, because I played with things I shouldnt have and now she cant access all of the programs she had on our win10, plus she had software and projects on their, such as the software for her cricket maker, but anyways.

Incogeeto .... when you write "...The wife is upset ..." Let me reiterate you need to ensure a clean backup (to an external device) is made before you get any further into this spiral. At the very least you should be able to do a fresh install (as I've previously suggested) and start the dual boot installations all over. As is often remarked a happy wife is a happy life :) BTW, J2Mcgregg's suggestion seems very plausible too when he/she wrote "...Priority Number 1: Boot into a live session of MX, use MX’s file manager to access the hard drive and back up the contents of My Documents, My Photos, My Music etc to a separate USB drive...."

Posted: **Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:44 pm**

Based on all of the information that everyone has been willing to provide, I am going to:
1.back up all of my windows files to an external hdd
2.purchase an additional external hdd
3.download an iso file of windows10 and load it onto a usb
4.disconnect my current internal HDD (the one that has my non accessible windows on it), my current external HDD
5.connect the live USB that has windows iso on it, and the brand new HDD
6. start up pc and install windows on the new HDD
7. reconnect the other HDD's and reboot
8. mount the other drives and see what I can see

does this sound like a good plan?

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:55 am**

Sounds ok to me Incogneeto. Perhaps it is one or two steps too much more than you could go but it is better to be sure about those Windows files and the way you've described it, it's hard to see you getting into too much bother in that regard.
As an aside, I am not sure what HDD space you need but is this a good time to purchase an SSD in lieu of an HDD? The former perform much better than a traditional hard disk drive and they can be had rather cost effectively nowadays. Good luck and I am sure all contributors to this thread will be looking forward to your success.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:23 am**

Your plan to install and run Windows on an external hard drive can be done but its going to be expensive. See here:

https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-run ... -usb-drive

I don't understand why you are not just over writing your internal hdd with a new Win 11 install?

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:34 am**

@j2mcgreg, I suspect Incogneeto is (understandably I think) a little paranoid about destroying his Windows files. By buying the additional hardware, I think he plans to keep the Windows HDD completely segregated from the (re)install process until he's got a working dual booting system and only then would he be copying over those (hopefully) undamaged files. At least this is what I suspect his plan is but no doubt we will hear from him shortly.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:24 am**

linexer2016 wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:34 am @j2mcgreg, I suspect Incogneeto is (understandably I think) a little paranoid about destroying his Windows files. By buying the additional hardware, I think he plans to keep the Windows HDD completely segregated from the (re)install process until he's got a working dual booting system and only then would he be copying over those (hopefully) undamaged files. At least this is what I suspect his plan is but no doubt we will hear from him shortly.

Yes but a simpler method for him would be to purchase a new internal hard drive for his machine to replace the old one and then install Windows on the new one. Once he's satisfied that the new install is functioning properly, he could install the old drive into a hard drive enclosure like this one:

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=100730

and then copy over his files. This method is much less complicated than what he is proposing and it has the added bonus of giving him another external drive when he's done as all he has to do is then delete the contents of the old drive.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:58 am**

Do you not have a local computer repair shop? Check your search engine on your phone and find a nearby computer repair shop, or a consultant who comes to you. Tell them you want to save the contents of your current drive because it has some important files for your wife. Tell them you want to put in a new drive for the OS and have that OS installed fresh. Then copy over the contents of old drive.

In the future, read and study how to install Linux BEFORE you attempt this type of multi-boot install. It is not easy if you do not know how your computer works. Sorry you've had to learn the hard way.

Seaken64

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:51 pm**

Ok so first of all, this is Hands Down the best forum, NOT!!!! not correct at all. Not with the kinds of comments that people make towards one another here.
This is not the best forum. This forum is just a place the some of the most amazing, selfLESS, smart and helpful people come together. (I had you going for a quick second didn't I) On a real note you guys absolutely rock! Again thank you for not saying "hey idiot, try reading and learning before you step in some stuff you cant get off your shoes, dumb dumb (i know you wanted to, admit it, lol) Great suggestions in the later comments. Linexer, your right I was paranoid about destroying those files. j2mcgreg, I just found out about windows 11 like an hour ago, I know super plugged in right, I sell solar, and have extremely slammed with learning this new trade, is 11 supposed to be pretty good? Tons of great info and comments from many, too many to quote.

So an update:
I spoke to my brother in law, a big geek (I say that with respect and admiration), on top of being a former DBA for IBM he red hat certified and does alot with programs and pc's, anyways he agreed with what most of you were saying. So the way I went, the super safe, over doing it way, I went and grabbed an external hard drive. I mounted the mx-linux and copied the important stuff off the old windows. I then downloaded the iso file for win 10 and used rufus to get that going on an usb. I went to install on my new usb hard drive only to find out that windows wont let you install to a usb device. I then opened up my small little mini pc and saw that it doesn't have a slot for a second hard drive on the board, ughhhhh. So in the end I figured, I copied all the important files so Im just gonna attempt a windows repair. Thats what im about to do now. Its ok, if im unable to repair it, Ill just wipe it and start fresh.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:42 pm**

Just a comment, not directed at anyone in particular: When one installs Linux on their computer one becomes a de facto Unix System Administrator just like the people in the glass rooms with raised floors, noisy HVAC climate-control systems and racks full of blade servers. They are expected to know or learn about about things such as the Unix file and directory structure (Linux is pretty much a clone of Unix using all different source code as the original Unix was copyrighted and licensed similarly to Windows), file and directory ownership and permissions, basic shell commands and scripting, and perhaps most importantly, disaster recovery i.e. having a back-up strategy in place.

Actually all computer users including those using Windows, Mac systems or even DOS need to know about doing regular back-ups of the system and of important data and also ensure that said back-ups are able to be restored. Otherwise they're just one failed hard drive (or memory, motherboard, a coffee spill on a laptop's keyboard) away from losing their data forever. This is assuming that, in the case of failures or accidents that don't involve the drive itself, the newbie lacks the skills necessary to remove the drive and connect it to a different computer to recover their data. It's recommended that two back-ups be kept: one onsite such as to an external drive, and the other offsite like to "the cloud" for example. Then the data is still available should all of your computer equipment including the external drive be stolen or destroyed.

(I was going to say that Linux desktop distros aren't for those who are new to using computers, but then I thought "No, it might even be better if they cut their geek-teeth on a Linux system rather than, say, Windows, so they don't carry over any bad habits or have any preconceptions about how the operating system should work.")

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:59 pm**

Also, just FYI I decided to cut the cord with Redmond WA. several years ago and install Linux as my daily driver operating system (OS.) My wife and I shared a computer so I had to sit down and discuss it with her first and get her permission to get rid of Windows XP (that's how long ago it was.) At first she used to grumble and complain a lot, mostly because she didn't know how to do the things she wanted to do in Linux yet. So I installed VirtualBox, installed XP in a virtual machine along with her Microsoft Office and Photoshop, and showed her how to start the virtual Windows system. But I never saw her actually using it: after a few weeks' learning curve she only ever used Linux. I did have to install a few Linux apps for her such as an IRC client and an instant messenger and show her how to use them, but pretty soon the grumbling and complaining about Linux stopped. It helped that I was already familiar with Linux and was there to answer her questions and show her how to do things. (I have a background in onsite computer support among other things.)

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:51 pm**

… When one installs Linux on their computer … They are expected to know or learn about about things such as the … file and directory structure … ownership and permissions, basic shell commands and scripting, and perhaps most importantly, disaster recovery …

A few distros are marketed to Pro-Admin aspirants. The rest face the challenge of mentoring non-experts.

…Actually all computer users including those using Windows, Mac systems or even DOS need to know about doing regular back-ups of the system and of important data and also ensure that said back-ups are able to be restored. … It's recommended that two back-ups be kept: one onsite such as to an external drive, and the other offsite like to "the cloud" for example.…

Indeed.
Of course, many people skate along as if on ice that will never melt or crack …

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:04 am**

Somewhat Reticent wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:51 pm Of course, many people skate along as if on ice that will never melt or crack …

Thanks for the Jethro Tull earworm. https://youtu.be/S5D9HZyYI6g

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:20 am**

Incogneeto wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:51 pm So in the end I figured, I copied all the important files so Im just gonna attempt a windows repair. Thats what im about to do now. Its ok, if im unable to repair it, Ill just wipe it and start fresh.

Good luck!!

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