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Hi MX Friends!

For any who may be interested an updated ISO of AVL-MXE has been released:
http://www.bandshed.net/2021/05/22/avl- ... so-update/

Thanks and be well!
Glen

Thanks Glen :)

Thanks! Just a side note, the log out prompt on 64 bit iso (specifically the one when you press log out button on whisker menu, not the one on the panel) isn't themed properly and still has a light background (32 bit iso is fine though)

tianluyao795 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:26 am Thanks! Just a side note, the log out prompt on 64 bit iso (specifically the one when you press log out button on whisker menu, not the one on the panel) isn't themed properly and still has a light background (32 bit iso is fine though)

Hi,

Thanks for that report, that got missed.. I never logout from the whisker menu so it still points to the xfce4-logout I guess.. The Openbox and Panel logout points to the new generic logout script, I will fix that in a future release..

Thanks Glen, for the updated iso! Since I do my own respins for my machines and my tastes, I am not concerned about any theming issues of icons,etc in the live session as long as the functions all work correct. Now on the wine-staging: Is all of the required files already in the distro in order to use things correctly? Or will I have to download the massive collection of supporting files for windows, for wine, in order to use the plugins? Example, mono, fonts, supporting dlls, net framework,etc. It does not matter too much in an installed environment but on a live session that depends on RAM as the hard drive, it very much matters, as I have run out of ram often when I started messing with wine, winetricks,etc. However, if all those required support files are already installed in the ISO, then there will be no need to update or download more files and thus fill up, the ram disk and crash the system. Could you confirm if the files are installed or will I need to do that on the installed AVL-MXE first, before respinning an iso for live use AFTERWARDS?

@pianokeyjoe
from the announcement:

– Wine-Staging has broken Windows VST Plugin support over several updates..
To ensure WinVST is working OOTB in all provided DAWS I have decided to lock Wine-Staging at version 6.2 and have kept a slightly older version of LinVST (3.1.5) because it seems to reliably work in both Ardour and Reaper. If you want to risk breaking it all that’s your choice and you can unlock Wine-Staging in a Root terminal with ‘apt-mark unhold winehq-staging’. If you have no idea what any of this all means leave it at the default setting and profit!

tony37 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 1:26 pm @pianokeyjoe
from the announcement:

– Wine-Staging has broken Windows VST Plugin support over several updates..
To ensure WinVST is working OOTB in all provided DAWS I have decided to lock Wine-Staging at version 6.2 and have kept a slightly older version of LinVST (3.1.5) because it seems to reliably work in both Ardour and Reaper. If you want to risk breaking it all that’s your choice and you can unlock Wine-Staging in a Root terminal with ‘apt-mark unhold winehq-staging’. If you have no idea what any of this all means leave it at the default setting and profit!

@tony37 Noted! But what I actually meant was all those fonts, mono, dotnet, and so on, that want to download in the background, when I first run wine related stuff. My experience is that while running a live session, this would cause an out of memory issue and the system just locks up. But in the installed session, it just installs hundreds of megabytes of software. So I was asking if all those needed files are already on the iso, or will I run into those background downloads upon running things that use wine-staging? I am not asking to upgrade wine or even the special apps/plugins related to AVL-MXE. I already know, to treat AVL as a ROM OS of sorts(use it as is in my PC based keyboard instrument).

OK, I can't answer that.

Hi Glen, I'm a big fan of your work and of AVL. I think the decision for Openbox is the right move for AVL.
I`m a long time Crunchbang / Bunsenlabs user (great distros!). And discovered some day MX Linux and so AV Linux (and also - great distros!) . Before that I produced my music stuff with Ubuntu Studio. Completely okay, but not quite my taste.
My question is, will there be an upgrade for an existing AVL installation or is a complete reinstallation necessary?
Okay, one can install all the openbox stuff for himself but I don want to break my excellent running AVL/MX system.

On the other hand, I also pimped my XFCE version the way I like it ;-) ... well, I'll definitely be testing the Openbox version the next few days. Openbox is simply the most intuitive window manager and again: Thanks for all the work and effort!

Kind regards from Germany

@pianokeyjoe

What you see on the release video explaining the setup of Wine-Staging/LinVST for WinVST Plugins is the extent of my involvement with Wine-Staging, I don't know anything about gaming, office apps, extra fonts or extending dlls or anything else with Winetricks etc. I simply run it for the first time, let it set up it's config environment and then that is sufficient to run VST Plugins and WineASIO, anything beyond that is the User's choice and I really don't want to get involved with it beyond that, I'm already going way beyond what any other Multimedia distros provide and it's a frustrating friggin' house of cards..

Göran wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 2:24 pm Hi Glen, I'm a big fan of your work and of AVL. I think the decision for Openbox is the right move for AVL.
I`m a long time Crunchbang / Bunsenlabs user (great distros!). And discovered some day MX Linux and so AV Linux (and also - great distros!) . Before that I produced my music stuff with Ubuntu Studio. Completely okay, but not quite my taste.
My question is, will there be an upgrade for an existing AVL installation or is a complete reinstallation necessary?
Okay, one can install all the openbox stuff for himself but I don want to break my excellent running AVL/MX system.

On the other hand, I also pimped my XFCE version the way I like it ;-) ... well, I'll definitely be testing the Openbox version the next few days. Openbox is simply the most intuitive window manager and again: Thanks for all the work and effort!

Kind regards from Germany

Hi Goran,

Thanks for the kind words, encouragement is always appreciated!

AV Linux in the early years was an LXDE-based Distro so I learned a lot about Openbox from those years and am glad to return to it. BunsenLabs in particular seems to have done a beautiful job of making Openbox really shine for sure!

Now as far as software updates... Existing Users of the initial AVL-MXE can continue getting 95% of the usual regular updates through the existing enabled Repositories, on top of that for the extra new included and updated Audio plugins that are not in any Repositories I've provided Deb's that will allow you install those and update them. So that only really leaves the cosmetic changes of the new Openbox stuff and some minor theming updates and to be honest I don't really have a quick and easy way for people to get started with that because I kind of started it from scratch.. @SwampRabbit has packaged and put some extra bits and pieces for Openbox into the MX Test Repo so all of the main Openbox packages including the enhanced obmenu-generator Packages that have come with AVL-MXE are already in MX but of course the specific AVL-MXE pre-configuration files and setup stuff is only on the new ISO.

So if you want the Openbox theming and config exactly as seen on the new ISO you will need to install the new ISO, If you want to experiment with moving an existing AVL-MXE install from xfwm to Openbox you will need to install the Openbox stuff and configure it yourself.. I hope that makes sense and answers your question..

AVLinux wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 5:47 pm @pianokeyjoe

What you see on the release video explaining the setup of Wine-Staging/LinVST for WinVST Plugins is the extent of my involvement with Wine-Staging, I don't know anything about gaming, office apps, extra fonts or extending dlls or anything else with Winetricks etc. I simply run it for the first time, let it set up it's config environment and then that is sufficient to run VST Plugins and WineASIO, anything beyond that is the User's choice and I really don't want to get involved with it beyond that, I'm already going way beyond what any other Multimedia distros provide and it's a frustrating friggin' house of cards..

Hi Glen! Ok, I think that answers my question. To be safe, I will just install the OS first, run all the apps once to setup everything, configure as needed, and then I will respin it all after it is setup. Yeah I understand the frustration. You have gone beyond most multimedia distros yes! And with the choosing of MX LINUX as the base, even more so ;-). Thankyou for all your work!

Is there a way to modify the right-click menu in AV Linux? I thought it was Openbox so I went looking for the menu file but I couldn't find it

EDIT: ah okay looks like I can do that by modifying ~/.config/obmenu-generator/schema.pl, I thought there was a static xml file somewhere with all these entries

pandabot wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:21 pm Is there a way to modify the right-click menu in AV Linux? I thought it was Openbox so I went looking for the menu file but I couldn't find it

EDIT: ah okay looks like I can do that by modifying ~/.config/obmenu-generator/schema.pl, I thought there was a static xml file somewhere with all these entries

Hi!

Yes for obmenu-generator the schema is the ticket to edit the menu, Openbox was a very new addition to the 64bit version and although AV Linux used Openbox/LXDE for many years in the past the improved 'obmenu-generator' is also new to me.. The next release of AV Linux MX Edition will have more refinement in the Openbox menu and also better documentation specific to Openbox config editing.