Dedoimedo on MXPI

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nerds unite. all other can use ubuntu.

Yes! You're a wise man, lol.

[Antediluvian]

I tried to read his article but got stopped by the cookie manager. I couldn't figure out which way to set the toggle so that a cookie was off. If a guy can't design (or use) an unambiguous toggle how can they claim the right to criticize the complex program decisions of a developer.

[dreamer]

This kind of articles makes me want to stop programming, I developed MXPI all by myself, D_O helped a bit and Fehlix fixed some stuff https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packagei ... ntributors
I give it away for free, what do I get in return? People who bitch that the tool is too nerdy. Nice.

Dedoimedo wants coffee to taste like tea and when it doesn't, it's bad coffee... Don't pay attention to reviews like that. While Dedoimedo sometimes has valid observations, the main problem with his reviews is "out of context" assumptions like MXPI should be compared to Android/iOS/Windows Store for example.

I think MX Linux is the distro that has done more meaningful contributions to the Linux desktop than any other distro. Dedoimedo seems more concerned that Linux isn't as "easy" as Android.

I do feel a little sadness for the entire MX team, because developing a LInux distro and supporting it is a rather thankless task. For every word of appreciation there are 10 problems to solve somewhere in the millions lines of code in the distro.

[Stuart_M]

Just out of curosity I did a test installation of the Falkon browser on a Live MX-19.4 USB Flash Drive and it worked fine for me - zero problems.

Edit: To give context to what I said above, in the MX Package Installer review that Dedoimedo did (the reason this thread was created), he tested the Falkon and Chromium browsers in MX Linux. His conclusion was that it was a "50% success" in that Chromium worked fine but Falkon "crashed majestically". He never goes any further in detailing the cause of the crash or what if anything he did to solve the problem.

[chrispop99]

How on earth could the time be found to fully test integration of all packages with user's machines? Even the resources of MS can't achieve that. Does he understand what MX Linux and similar distro are, and how they are created?

How is Falkon crashing the fault of the Package Installer? No matter how you install it, you get the same thing! (It's always been a bit flaky for me since Qupzilla.)

I love our Package Installer. I still try other Xfce based mainstream distros on their main releases, just to see if there is any part of them we might add. I hate the graphics-heavy 'stores', and can never easily find what I want. When I want to add anything to test in distros that have those, I use Synaptic.

I equate Dedoimedo to some of the low-brow newspapers we have in the UK; they have nothing to say to the masses, so create something. I think he is best ignored.

Chris

[radonrose]

Opinions are good. Opinions based on non-facts, are invalid. Examples:

Another problem - in addition to hazard warnings you get going through the different repo tabs, the actions do not get saved. Say you select a couple of applications on the first tab, click on the second, boom, the selection is gone. So you must commit actions on the same tab before moving away to the next, if at all.

This is good.

You have the choice to install packages from conflicting repositories and break your system in a really convoluted way. In general, Linux packaging and dependency management is hard, and this exposes the hardship in a friendly way, inviting people to make mistakes.

This is invalid.

Ideally, every software component would have a clearly defined, rigorous test procedure. Every system would have a chain of these tests, declared, defined, interlinked. No application would be allowed for inclusion or publication without successful testing that proves the components work great on their own and as part of the overall complex system.

This is conflicting with the previous one.

I can say that MXPI is the only tool that invited me into using Test Packages on my main machine; no dual-booting, no multiple user accounts, no hassle. Thank you guys for this great distro.

[asqwerth]

He doesn't understand the whole concept that the test and backport tabs don't permanently enable repos, just turn them on and off like a tap. That's why it's not an invitation to breaking your system with all the tabs and diff repos. Also those repos don't or shouldn't conflict. He probably thinks test repo is Debian testing.

And the "tap" thing is why you can't remember and save checked packages from a past tab when you move to a new one in mxpi.

Usually I find at least one point of criticism in his various MX reviews that makes sense and can help improve things. This time, not a single one.

[adeplus]

I like Dedoimedo. His articles are usually interesting. But I disagree when he says that the average user needs this or that. His average user is a kind of amoeba that moves by visual impulses, absolutely irresponsible for everything, and with absolute needs that must be satisfied. Any other type of user is a «nerd».

I don't want to be the average user as Dedoimedo describes it. This average user is unable to distinguish a refrigerator from a computer.

For me, MXPI is a very good tool that I haven't seen in any distro. I don't care if he likes it or not.

[malspa]

I appreciate Dedoimedo's reviews, though. I kinda skim through to get to the parts that might be important to me. Whether he likes a distro or not, I can tell from his reviews if the distro might be useful to me. As for MXPI, I don't use it or any GUI package manager, but MXPI isn't why I keep MX on a flash drive here.

[bwhawk]

This kind of articles makes me want to stop programming, I developed MXPI all by myself, D_O helped a bit and Fehlix fixed some stuff https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packagei ... ntributors
I give it away for free, what do I get in return? People who bitch that the tool is too nerdy. Nice.

Well, I think MXPI is amazing. It simplifies installation of packages that would otherwise be tedious or maddening, like Wine, Mullvad VPN, Calibre, Flatpaks, the list can go on and on. Please never doubt that you are appreciated.