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[solved] odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:04 am
by jimm
I run bleachbit at every daily boot.
When I run it without elevated privileges, it erases data for a bit and then momentarily hides my bottom panel. At that point, I reboot and the Application Menu seems to ghost and hang for a few seconds before going to the reboot/shutdown selection screen. (I reboot because of the effects on the KDE desktop manager -- hiding the bottom panel)
After rebooting, I run bleachbit as root. Frequently, after a few seconds, the desktop vanishes and goes to reboot/shutdown screen.
Anyone else encountering this? If so, erasing what data group is causing the problems?
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:18 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Maybe you post a screenshot of what are checked. (I'm also using Bleachbit on default MX for years with no issues)
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:46 am
by entropyfoe
Same here as Huckleberry Finn. I run bleachbit to clean up every few days as user. I never see any thing like missing panels or ghosting menus.
I see you are running a KDE desktop, that is different than my stock xfce. Maybe it is something with KDE?
I have rarely run bleachbit as root (kind of scared it may mess up my system). But on those few occasions, I noted no weird behavior or problems.

Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:42 am
by Huckleberry Finn
:) I use it twice everyday either as root and user.
I had also tried on KDE (that was installed by me on default MX 19 as a DE from MXPI ).. no issues .
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:26 pm
by entropyfoe
jimm,
OK, I think the next step is what Huckleberry Finn wrote, look at the check list and see or copy to the forum what things are being deleted.
Either post your selections, or maybe try unchecking half at a time, to do a binary search and see which deletion is causing a problem for your system. For example if you are cleaning memory or something that the menus or panels depend on, it glitches. If you turn off half, and the other causes the problem, then divide that half in half until you find the culprit.
If you eliminate that item, maybe it will work as intended.
Or you could try a purge and reinstall for bleachbit, maybe something corrupted?
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:39 pm
by Stevo
It could also help if we knew what version of BB you're using.
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:51 pm
by entropyfoe
Stevo,
Yup, could be a factor. I noticed an appearance change to BB maybe a month ago...the background changed from white to black. Must have been a synaptic upgrade that I did not note. I can check tonight once in front of the MX machines...
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:48 pm
by dreamer
entropyfoe wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:51 pm
I noticed an appearance change to BB maybe a month ago...the background changed from white to black. Must have been a synaptic upgrade that I did not note. I can check tonight once in front of the MX machines...
Dark mode is a setting/checkbox in Preferences that was checked by default.
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:48 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Appearance changed a bit with 4.x , currently 4.1.0 . On mine (dark theme - Xfce) it's still dark. Only it began using its own title bar. (Meanwhile, even if I uncheck the dark theme in it's settings it stays so, due to xfce theme)
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:08 pm
by entropyfoe
It used to be a white background, and it changed. I never un-checked any boxes or made an intentional change, so I assumed it was some upgraded version.
I will look for the check box in preferences, as I do prefer the white background, just what I got used to I guess. Thanks for the tip.
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:59 pm
by entropyfoe
OK, I was able to switch back to the white background in the preferances.
I am up to date with the 4.1.0 version, the change log shows Stevep packaged this version Sept 4th. So, maybe it was when I upgraded from 4.0.0 that the preference was changed.
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:35 pm
by jimm
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:18 am
Maybe you post a screenshot of what are checked. (I'm also using Bleachbit on default MX for years with no issues)
I'm not at home right now but I can tell you that everything was checked, except:
clipboard
custom
free disk space
memory
I'll post the version number when I get home.
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:56 pm
by heywoodidaho
I've run bb for years without issue [should replace our default cleaner imho],but I have never run it as a background process [on with start-up]. I wonder if just invoking it at the end of a session and not running it all the time would make a difference?
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:38 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
jimm wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:35 pmexcept:
clipboard
custom
free disk space
memory
Not bad. Just uncheck the
Cache, too and try . Then uncheck "Apt" (whole) for the user Bleachbit and keep it so.. Anyway, it gives errors when checked.
On the root Bleachbit just check the "Apt" and that's enough indeed . Actually on mine, some more are checked but when you look at the cleaning result, 99.99% is Apt (say 137.8 MB out of 138 totally), and all others are just KBs .. (even isn't worth it ... )
P.S. If you had installed BB another way, you can purge it, then install from Stable Repo from MX Package Installer. (That's also the latest one currently).
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:14 pm
by jimm
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:38 pm
Just uncheck the
Cache, too and try.
That fixed it -- no more weirdness.
Thanks.
Re: odd effects running bleachbit
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:28 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Glad to hear that, you're welcome.
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