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Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:37 pm
by Srdjan
Done :)
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:59 pm
by Stevo
fehlix wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:20 pm
Stevo wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:42 pm
3) Do you have any comments, complaints, or suggestions?
64-bit stock Buster Nvidia 418.74 driver and Bumblebee install works out of the box with MX NI, but not the 435.21 driver from the test repo. Currently working with d_o to fix that situation, which seems to be due to the "no-automatic-upgrade" policy now in the test repo. A workaround to upgrade to 435.21 is to upgrade everything "nvidia" related from MXPI test repo tab, including any lib packages.
I might have a play with one of my hybrids, and try figure whether I can install and then upgrade to testrepo nvidia. Maybe we can apply similar tricks I used for the libreoffice uprade to backports (and also for backwards downgrades), which has kind of similar "no-automatice-upgrade" policy.
D_o just fixed the ddm-mx installer for installs from the test repo--the problems began when we switched the TR to the same no-automatic-upgrades policy as debian backports, so he had to work around that. It should appear as an update soon.
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:07 pm
by Stevo
To test if Bumblebee is working, we include a benchmark when we install Bumblebee.
For 64-bit, run
vs
For 32-bit, the command is just glxspheres, but it seems more tricky to get it working on a 32-bit system. But I think that will be a tiny minority of installs for Optimus systems.
BitJam, I'm pretty sure that ddm-mx has some code in its script that can distinguish between a desktop with an Intel iGPU plus Nvidia, or a true Optimus laptop. I remember that it was added after we ran into a user with the first setup, so perhaps you can borrow it.
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:59 am
by Srdjan
Run glxspheres, and it still says that it is not using nvidia...
Screenshot.png
Screenshot-1.png
Can you tell me is nvidia driver installed ok on my Laptop and
how do I actually check that it is really used at all?
I have allreay posted ddm and qsi on this thread earlier.
Should the system switch graphic cards by itself if it detects heavy load on gpu?
Desired behavior would be to use Intel on non-demanding tasks to
save battery, and use nvidia dedicated just on graphic demanding tasks
to get best performance. Is it possible for this to work on linux as it is
working on windows?
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:12 am
by chrispop99
Srdjan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:59 am
Desired behavior would be to use Intel on non-demanding tasks to
save battery, and use nvidia dedicated just on graphic demanding tasks
to get best performance. Is it possible for this to work on linux as it is
working on windows?
If only!
No, it doesn't work like that. If you manage to get dual graphics machines working, you still need to launch each program with a different command.
Chris
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:42 pm
by Srdjan
Ok then, how do I know if nvidia drivers installed correctly?
I posted all the logs here.
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:24 pm
by Stevo
Srdjan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:42 pm
Ok then, how do I know if nvidia drivers installed correctly?
I posted all the logs here.
The logs say that nvidia-kernel-dkms built successfully, so I am assuming you did a reboot as the pop-up message said you had to do to make sure you weren't getting nouveau loaded at boot.
If so, you might have one of those laptops that need some tweaking for Bumblebee to work.
Some Dells are like that, too. Does anything show up when you do a web search for "linux bumblebee <lenovo laptop model here>"?
The Arch wiki for Bumblebee has some troubleshooting tips, and maybe booting with systemd would get it working--it seemed to have done something when I tried an i386 install on an 2016 Acer laptop to test the 390xx Legacy Nvidia driver install with MX NI.
Did you have Bumblebee working in MX 18.3, or is MX 19 your first try?
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:42 pm
by Srdjan
Rebooted after nvidia install, off course.
It didn't work on MX 18, too. As a matter of fact, it only kinda work on windows...
Linux Mint is working fine, but as I seen, Mint does not install bumblebee, it just
installs 340.x series driver and properly configures it, and then
from what I can see, Laptop only uses nvidia. Since I value performance more then
battery as my Laptop is 99% time on charger at home, I would like to get that
freaking nvidia working... I will try as you suggested to look some more into bumblebee
to get it working somehow.
And also I would like to stay systemd free, if possible.
The laptop is Lenovo T510, if you stumble upon some solution please let
me know.
Other then that, MX 19 works like a charm, thanks all devs for their effort.
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:47 pm
by fehlix
Srdjan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:42 pm
Ok then, how do I know if nvidia drivers installed correctly?
Just have checked it and seem to work here well. (Acer A5-A515 Intel/Nvidia hybrid)
1st. install with Nvidia-Installer tool. if all went well reboot.
2. Check what was installed:
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dpkg -l | grep nvidia
ii bumblebee-nvidia 3.2.1-20 amd64 NVIDIA Optimus support using the proprietary NVIDIA driver
ii glx-alternative-nvidia 1.0.0 amd64 allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
ii libegl-nvidia0:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary EGL library
ii libegl-nvidia0:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary EGL library
ii libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX library (GLVND variant)
ii libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX library (GLVND variant)
ii libgles-nvidia1:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary OpenGL|ES 1.x library
ii libgles-nvidia1:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary OpenGL|ES 1.x library
ii libgles-nvidia2:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary OpenGL|ES 2.x library
ii libgles-nvidia2:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary OpenGL|ES 2.x library
ii libglx-nvidia0:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary GLX library
ii libglx-nvidia0:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary GLX library
ii libnvidia-cbl:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary Vulkan ray tracing (cbl) library
ii libnvidia-cfg1:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX configuration library
ii libnvidia-eglcore:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary EGL core libraries
ii libnvidia-eglcore:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary EGL core libraries
ii libnvidia-fatbinaryloader:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA FAT binary loader
ii libnvidia-glcore:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX core libraries
ii libnvidia-glcore:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX core libraries
ii libnvidia-glvkspirv:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary Vulkan Spir-V compiler library
ii libnvidia-glvkspirv:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA binary Vulkan Spir-V compiler library
ii libnvidia-ml1:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA Management Library (NVML) runtime library
ii libnvidia-ptxjitcompiler1:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA PTX JIT Compiler
ii libnvidia-rtcore:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary Vulkan ray tracing (rtcore) library
ii nvidia-alternative 418.74-1 amd64 allows the selection of NVIDIA as GLX provider
ii nvidia-detect 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA GPU detection utility
ii nvidia-driver 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA metapackage
ii nvidia-driver-bin 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA driver support binaries
ii nvidia-driver-libs:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA metapackage (OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES libraries)
ii nvidia-driver-libs:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA metapackage (OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES libraries)
ii nvidia-driver-libs-i386:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA metapackage (OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES 32-bit libraries)
ii nvidia-egl-common 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary EGL driver - common files
ii nvidia-egl-icd:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA EGL installable client driver (ICD)
ii nvidia-egl-icd:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA EGL installable client driver (ICD)
ii nvidia-installer-cleanup 20151021+9 amd64 cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-installer
ii nvidia-kernel-common 20151021+9 amd64 NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
ii nvidia-kernel-dkms 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary kernel module DKMS source
ii nvidia-kernel-support 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary kernel module support files
ii nvidia-legacy-check 418.74-1 amd64 check for NVIDIA GPUs requiring a legacy driver
ii nvidia-modprobe 418.56-1 amd64 utility to load NVIDIA kernel modules and create device nodes
ii nvidia-settings 418.74-1 amd64 tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ii nvidia-support 20151021+9 amd64 NVIDIA binary graphics driver support files
ii nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix - NVIDIA driver
ii nvidia-vulkan-common 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA Vulkan driver - common files
ii nvidia-vulkan-icd:amd64 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA Vulkan installable client driver (ICD)
ii nvidia-vulkan-icd:i386 418.74-1 i386 NVIDIA Vulkan installable client driver (ICD)
ii xserver-xorg-video-nvidia 418.74-1 amd64 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
Check the glxgears test-video app behaves and run it on the command line:
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fehlix@mx19rc1:~/Desktop
$ glxgears
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.997 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.997 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.997 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.997 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.997 FPS
glxgears.png
What is "inxi -Gxx" reporting about the video driver:
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fehlix@mx19rc1:~/Desktop
$ inxi -Gxx
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel
bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5917
Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0
chip ID: 10de:1d10
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6
compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
As shown Nvidia driver is not "active" and OpenGL renderer is mesa via intel GPU.
Now let's check Nvidia with glxgears test-video and run it onthe command line with activating nvidia using "optirun":
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$ optirun glxgears
3848 frames in 5.0 seconds = 769.520 FPS
3823 frames in 5.0 seconds = 764.523 FPS
3873 frames in 5.0 seconds = 774.468 FPS
3918 frames in 5.0 seconds = 783.540 FPS
3866 frames in 5.0 seconds = 773.067 FPS
3995 frames in 5.0 seconds = 798.941 FPS
3962 frames in 5.0 seconds = 792.361 FPS
So what is "inxi -Gxx" reporting about the video driver now:
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$ inxi -Gxx
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel
bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5917
Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: nvidia
v: 418.74 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d10
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6
compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Nvidia dGPU driver is active and together with Intels iGPU the test video is displayed with a much higher frame rate.
Re: MX-19 RC1 Multiple video cards and hybrid video
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:49 pm
by Srdjan
Yeah, I would like to get it too, but look at this:
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┌─[srdjan@Lenovo]─[11:48:21 pm]──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────[~]
└─> optirun glxgears
[ 4361.977471] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[ 4361.977596] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
┌─[srdjan@Lenovo]─[11:48:29 pm]──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────[~]
└─>
I really did a clean install of 19rc, then after boot in new system:
1. updated all
2. rebooted (just in case..)
3. installed nvidia with auto-installation
4. rebooted
thats all, didnt mess with anything.