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Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 am
by asqwerth
SysV is default.
https://mxlinux.org/blog/debian-stable-is-now-buster/

I don't think XFCE 4.14 will be on Wayland.

And XFCE is MX's default DE.

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:26 am
by palimmo
asqwerth wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 am SysV is default.
How to change it?
Thanks!

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:39 am
by JayM
palimmo wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:26 am
asqwerth wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 am SysV is default.
How to change it?
Thanks!
alt+F1 then control+f, type "systemd" and press enter.
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd/.

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:46 am
by baldyeti
Excellent news. Big thanks to the shim maintainer.

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:52 am
by Eadwine Rose
The answer is in the comments on that blog :)

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:59 am
by xali
so if you want to install a snap for some reason but still want to work with sysv, which is the appropriate approach?

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:05 am
by JayM
xali wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:59 am so if you want to install a snap for some reason but still want to work with sysv, which is the appropriate approach?
Request that the devs install snap plus its repositories or store or whatever it's called in MXPI as they did for flatpaks. Otherwise, install it yourself and risk breaking your system. Or, if whatever app that you want in snaps isn't available in the MX repos, request that it be added.

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:09 am
by dolphin_oracle
palimmo wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:39 am By default installation, will be systemd or sysv active? and how to change it?

Furthermore, what about Wayland?

Thanks!
Sysvinit by default. There will be a systemd grub entry just like in mx 18.

Xfce still uses X, so that's what we are shipping.

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:24 am
by asqwerth
JayM wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:05 am
xali wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:59 am so if you want to install a snap for some reason but still want to work with sysv, which is the appropriate approach?
Request that the devs install snap plus its repositories or store or whatever it's called in MXPI as they did for flatpaks. Otherwise, install it yourself and risk breaking your system. Or, if whatever app that you want in snaps isn't available in the MX repos, request that it be added.
Since snaps only works with systemd which is not officially supported by mx (we merely give the opportunity for both sysv and systemd to co-exist on the same installation of mx), I highly doubt you'll find snaps incorporated in to mxpi.

Position on systemd in general: go search the official website, it's there somewhere.

Re: MX-19 and systemd

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:12 am
by anticapitalista
manyroads wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:43 pm
However, I believe the MX position as stated in the posts today by D_O, which I assume represent both MX & antiX, effectively place MX & antiX in a unique position within the Linux-world. ...
Not quite.
antiX does not and will not use systemd-shim. ie it is totally systemd-free.