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My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:39 am
by Eadwine Rose
Just wanting to get good thoughts my way.. or rather.. my cat's way. Doerak (Rascal in English) will have to stay sober tonight, and tomorrow morning he needs to be at the vet between 8 and 8:30.
He lost the crown of a tooth and the nerve is open in his mouth.. that HAS to hurt. So.. we arranged for this to be taken care of tomorrow.
We don't know the cause, I have a suspicion which is trauma, he fell off of something and hit something else on the way down, hard, and now I am kind of hoping THAT is the cause, because then it'll be only that one tooth. The vet is going to check the rest of his mouth, so if need be, and the cause is not trauma but something tooth decay related, more will come out.
I just hope it is only the one tooth, then there will be no need for a cone of shame for two days. So.. please..

for my sweetie!
Baby pic (he's the one on the right, with the white nose):
And him now:
At least my domestic helper will be coming over tomorrow so I'll have some distraction. Poor little kitty, he's so scared. Bringing the sweater he always crawls into when on my lap, that way there is something with a familiar scent with him in the cage.
*sigh* At least he doesn't know yet..

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:00 am
by JayM
I bet he knows, at least that something out of the normal routine is going on, and if you've checked his teeth lately he probably associates the preparations with that. Animals are smarter than many people think. I'll pray for Doerak to have no issues during his visit to the dentist and have a speedy recovery afterward. (At least you'll get to laugh at him when he's drunkenly staggering around as he's coming out of the sedatives.)
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:08 am
by mxer
Poor old fella, yes, he'll know something is amiss, hope all goes well & nothing else needs sorting out.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:09 am
by Eadwine Rose
@JayM
Nope.. I steered clear from touching his mouth :) His issue was discovered at the vet, by chance, when we were there for something else, MONTHS after that trauma event occurred.
Also.. there will be no drunken staggering here.. I am not picking him up until he is good and well awake! I have had that happen once with another cat, not doing that again, way too dangerous.
@JayM and @mxer
They are indeed smarter than we think, he will definitely feel my being tense about it. I just hope things will go smoothly.
The cat before him had many operations, but he was very social. The para-vets were having a good time with him, he was ALWAYS wanting to get pet hahaha. He was the clinic's sweetheart alright. He was old too, almost ten years older than Doerak is now, who is 8. Doerak is the scared cat kind, unfortunately.
I'll be glad when it's over and he's home safe and sound and WITHOUT that darned cone!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:49 am
by Gordon Cooper
@ Eadwine Rose. All will go well, I had nearly the same problem as Doerak. It was part fixed today, thought I was losing the whole tooth
but the gumdigger removed the loose top of it and made a temporary repair. Go back to see him in week or so for a some reinforcing - a
stainless pin to be fitted into the root, then he'll build another composite tooth around the pin. Only sad thing will be paying for it.

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:53 am
by JayM
I was just remembering when Rahab, our female Doberman, got a puncture wound in her ear flap that wouldn't stop bleeding, thanks to Joshua the male Dobie chewing on her ears. I took her to our vet who has a 24 hour emergency service and Rahab was given a sedative for the exam. The vet, Doc Grace, actually laughed when she found out it was just a tiny puncture wound in the inner ear flap that happened to hit a vein. I had to wait over an hour for Rahab to come out of the sedative before I took her home to make sure she didn't vomit in the taxi, and she was staggering around and falling down like she'd been at the bottle. Very funny (partially due to my great relief that she wasn't going to bleed to death. I had to spend an hour cleaning up pools and spatters of blood when we got home. It looked as though I'd butchered a pig inside the house.)
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:56 am
by Eadwine Rose
@Gordon
Wow...
I bet that hurt before you went in.
Glad you can get it taken care of though.
Will you beep when you're checked in the airport after this? *giggle*
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:00 am
by Eadwine Rose
JayM wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:53 am
I was just remembering when Rahab, our female Doberman, got a puncture wound in her ear flap that wouldn't stop bleeding, thanks to Joshua the male Dobie chewing on her ears. I took her to our vet who has a 24 hour emergency service and Rahab was given a sedative for the exam. The vet, Doc Grace, actually laughed when she found out it was just a tiny puncture wound in the inner ear flap that happened to hit a vein. I had to wait over an hour for Rahab to come out of the sedative before I took her home to make sure she didn't vomit in the taxi, and she was staggering around and falling down like she'd been at the bottle. Very funny (partially due to my great relief that she wasn't going to bleed to death. I had to spend an hour cleaning up pools and spatters of blood when we got home. It looked as though I'd butchered a pig inside the house.)
Awww. Poor baby. Yeah.. in those cases you cannot wait for them to get out of the sedative properly.
Hitting a vein is annoying alright! And indeed that bleeds like a m.. that.
I had that happen when I was still learning to inject myself, at the doc's office. I need to take B12 shots weekly, so yeah, learned to do that myself, I wasn't driving to the office every week for the rest of my life, hell to the no.. Back when I apparently had inserted the needle through a vein to the "happy spot" which was clear, and upon pulling the needle out had blood pool out of my leg. The assistant's face was like

and I was calmly like "Please hand me a tissue?" so I could push that on the thing

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:10 am
by JayM
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:00 am
Awww. Poor baby. Yeah.. in those cases you cannot wait for them to get out of the sedative properly.
I did wait. Meanwhile I laughed at her while she was in the process of coming out of it. "Go home, Rahab! You're drunk!"

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:11 am
by Eadwine Rose
*giggle* I meant.. wait past the drunk stage

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:14 am
by JayM
I waited until she was able to walk normally and not stagger anymore. Like I said, I was afraid she might get sick in the taxi on the way home afterward, due to the effects of the sedative. It's hard enough to get taxi drivers to stop for you if you have a dog without them barfing on the back seat when one does finally pick you up.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:18 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yeah indeed.. ugh..
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:23 am
by manyroads
I think many cabs make people barf too....
Good luck with Rascal, @Eadwine. Timmy (our kitty aka. the big guy) sends his best as well
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:25 am
by Eadwine Rose
Thanks Manyroads!!

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:11 am
by AK-47
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:39 amBaby pic (he's the one on the right, with the white nose):
And him now:

I was thinking "wow, that's a
remarkable colour change!" until I read the text.
Anyway, good luck with this, hopefully it's nothing too severe. I can't read the time stamp at the bottom, how old is he?
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:13 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yeah.. that would be a BIG color change hahaha
Thanks!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:17 am
by manyroads
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:25 am
Thanks Manyroads!!
You are

btw. Timmy (all 24 US pounds of him and nearly 1 m. long, ergo 'the big guy') had similar fang removal surgery. He has a very funny (cute) smile now.

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:20 am
by Eadwine Rose
Hahaha yeah I hear ya!
My old cat Stuffie had all his teeth removed.
One day we (my mate, the cat, and I) were at the vet for a checkup after the surgery, and there was this woman at the counter with a chihuahua.
Stuffie, who was this laid back big cat (no maine coon but still big) was on my lap. I figured I'd play a joke on her and told him "Stuffie... get him!!"
The lady looked back, saw Stuffie, her eyes went huge hahahaha.
My mate then replied: "No worries, he's got no teeth anymore"

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:37 am
by manyroads

+1
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:44 am
by j2mcgreg
Babe had that sort of dental work several years ago and it was far more traumatic for me than it was for her. Her vet at the time told me that cats are far more adaptable than dogs and that when a cat damages or loses a tooth the effects will be short term -- the cat may not even notice it in a day or two. The same sort of damage in a dog would turn it into an immediate, obvious, and prolonged basket case. Doerak's going to be fine. Give him some catnip when he gets home and if you can tolerate it, give yourself a large brandy.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:49 am
by Eadwine Rose
*grin* Thanks j2mcgreg.
Yeah, he'll be fine in a day or so. Us humans (at least -this- specimen) are just plagued with what if this, what if that. Bleh.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:51 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Seriously, that cat!
He has to stay sober as of roughly an hour ago. I go and take a shower, and when I am done I go look for him.
Well.. he headed outside in the enclosure and started scooping up and eating all the spiderwebs and spiders between the enclosure and the fence (there is about 10cm worth of space in between). I mean seriously.. as if he never gets fed

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:16 pm
by richb
Spiderwebs and spiders are caviar to him. Do you feed him caviar, NO? There you go.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:22 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Ohhhhh.. yeah that makes sense.

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:43 pm
by manyroads
Are Dutch spiders extra tasty???

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:57 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Apparently!! haha!!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:14 pm
by AK-47
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:51 pmHe has to stay sober as of roughly an hour ago.
To prevent catastrophic disintegration of the veterinarian due to the presence of Dutch courage?
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:16 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Heh.. no to avoid the cat choking on its own vomit while under.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:20 pm
by KBD
Best wishes for good results, Eadwine.
These pets can come to mean so much to us. We have a Shih Tzu mix and that little fellow is my constant companion.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:50 pm
by davemx
I'm 65 and never had a pet at home since I was a teenager and my mum had a bitch called Suzie who was such a funny dog. She was a Yorkshire Terrier with the attitude of a German Shepherd! Never had pets since until I met my girlfriend (now my wife) 3 years ago and she had 4 cats. Sadly, we've lost two of them (one of them got his head stuck under a fence, where he couldn't been seen, and the other survived until age 13 despite being born with a liver defect). The one with the bad liver soon became my dog after I moved in, followed me everywhere, always licking me and so on. Since he died the other two have much more loving with me (I think the other one warned them off!). I always loved dogs but I never knew I'd like cats so much. One of the neighbour's cats keeps trying to be my dog now.
You just fall in love with the little horrors, don't you?
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:25 pm
by Gordon Cooper
Looks like many cases of the old adage: Dogs have masters but cats have servants.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:46 pm
by Gerson
Everything will be fine for your cat. I know the feeling for animals, at home we have 4 were 5 but one ran out into the street and was hit by a car.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:41 pm
by j2mcgreg
Gordon Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:25 pm
Looks like many cases of the old adage: Dogs have masters but cats have servants.
It's a cat's world. Adjust!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:20 pm
by uncle mark
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:39 am
Just wanting to get good thoughts my way.. or rather.. my cat's way. Doerak (Rascal in English) will have to stay sober tonight, and tomorrow morning he needs to be at the vet between 8 and 8:30.
He lost the crown of a tooth and the nerve is open in his mouth.. that HAS to hurt. So.. we arranged for this to be taken care of tomorrow.
Did you know that cats can have ACL surgery? And that it's
expensive? Not as expensive as a divorce, though, so there's that.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:17 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yeah I know.. and trust me.. divorce, been there done that, never falling for that again

The operations were cheaper
Thanks for all the well wishes. Cat is currently settling for the fact that he isn't getting fed. I am suffering the wrath of mew
In about an hour I am going to get the car from the garage box (got this locked spot that the car is in when I don't use it) and then it is catch the cat time.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:08 am
by BitJam
I wish you all the best Eadwine! I remember how rattled I was when my dog needed surgery.
I've gotten a lot out of the book
Guardians of Being: Spiritual Teachings from Our Dogs and Cats. The quote on the back of the book says:
I have lived with many Zen masters, all of them cats.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:16 am
by Eadwine Rose
*nodnod*
Thanks BitJam!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:58 am
by Eadwine Rose
Aww maaaan...
He was so scared, so scared

that it is just the one tooth and that's it.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 am
by BitJam
My dog's a rescue so he is a little strange sometimes. Today he got wet out in the rain so I wanted to towel him off before he showered my house with wet dog water. The towel totally frightened him off. So I had to coax him back inside and then towel him.
I was recently told that none of that stuff matters. You just need to love them to death (an idiom).
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:29 am
by Eadwine Rose
Ah yeah.. my old dog, long gone now, was a rescue as well. When we put our slippers on when we got home, oh dear goodness the poor thing nearly crawled under the carpet, she was soooo scared!
I decided to try and reverse the bad image into something good. She loved getting chased around the table (that dog was coo coo nuts, trust me haha), so sometimes I would pick up the slipper and gently tapped it on her buttocks saying "get the doggie, get the doggie!" She was scared of it, but the play was SO much fun that she tolerated the thing and slowly over the course of many months she learned that a slipper meant PLAYTIME!!! instead of getting a beating.
Poor thing.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:46 am
by Eadwine Rose
One tooth!
And one nail.
He made a leap of death out of the cage, wanted to attack the assistant veterinarian, yeah, he's been a handful.
Due to the one leap he's lost a nail, again *rolls eyes* but they checked him over and he doesn't seem to have broken anything.
Their kind request was if I could please take him out of the cage. *laughs*
He's just gotten the wake up dose, so by 15:30 he should be fully awake. I will go and pick him up then.
No cone of shame, just one week of soft food (dernit, ah well, that means softening his kibble, there is no soft food variety of that one).
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:51 am
by manyroads

Good news!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:02 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yep.. just being scared how he will react to me now.. just have to be patient is all I can do.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:04 am
by manyroads
Falconer gloves are a handy item for your wardrobe, I hear. Oh and a hockey Goalie's mask....

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:07 am
by Eadwine Rose
*giggle*
Yeah I hope it isn't going to be THAT bad!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:09 am
by manyroads
Bon chance!

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:27 am
by JayM
It may take time before he gets over the trauma of Being Taken To The Vet and lets you pet him again. Just be patient with him and give him time.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:50 am
by Eadwine Rose
He's home. He's still all dopey and such. Wants out of this room, but that is not going to happen because this room is the least dangerous climbing wise.
Hopefully he'll be less wobbly soon!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:50 pm
by j2mcgreg
See if you can construct something so that he can hide like a large box with an entrance / exit cut in one side or an upturned stool with a blanket over top.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:01 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Not needed.. he comes to me very often for pets. He won't go in there anyway, he just wants to go to another part of the house and that is up high, which is not wise just yet

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:55 pm
by duane
Glad he made it OK.
We have a problem with our cat, Tux.
(Tux is a female by the way)
Her mommy was killed when she was still a kitten so she did not get socialized properly.
So when we take her to the vet she gets extremely stressed. She is in her growl and attack mode the whole time.
Our vet says to only bring her in when we absolutely have to because of her stress levels.
She has to go in next week because she is having stomach problems.
Dreading it already.
We give her Bach Rescue Remedy for pets and trim her toenails before she goes in.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:03 pm
by Eadwine Rose
*nods* that is the smartest way to go about things with kitties as scared as these.
I hear you where the dreading is concerned alright.. brrr.
Right now Doerak is out of the room, and gives me a heart attack nearly every time he goes downstairs.
He HAS eaten a little bit.. crushed kibble with a bit of water. Giving him very small portions at a time, like 5-8 or something like that. He's lapping it up so far, with a bit of trouble, but it's going in. This way he will get some water in his body as well :)
I still have to find a time to put the car back in the garage haha.. it's 9pm now, so I wager it's going to get a bit late tonight.. ah well. Him being up and about is a good thing, the more he moves the quicker those chemicals can leave his little body.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:21 am
by JayM
I'm so glad he made it through the surgery and sedative OK!
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:32 am
by Eadwine Rose
Thanks!!
He is doing well. Currently sleeping on the highest shelf in his room.
He was doing the wobble game till really late in the evening, I left his room door closed the first part of the night because I didn't want to see him venture up top and then falling about 2 meters to the floor while doped up. Not good.
He woke me at 4am, all happy and enthusiastic so I gave him a bit of food and opened the door to his room. Right now he is his happy little self again.

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:05 am
by srq2625
Always nice to have our friends back to "normal" (I put this in quotes, because none of my four-legged friends are anything approaching normal) after a traumatic experience.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:08 am
by Paul..
Good news, ER.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:09 am
by Gerson
Congratulations. E.R.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:11 am
by Eadwine Rose
Thanks all :)
Just wait till we have to go for his checkup next week. If all goes well I will ask to wait a wee while longer so she can give him his annual vaccination shot at the same time.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:11 am
by Eadwine Rose
update for those interested
All the ins and outs are operational, this morning I was gifted the first stool in his bin since the operation. Perfectly normal looking too. *thumbs up*
Food was an issue. He was on hypoallergenic food because he had a reaction to.. something (I am pretty sure what, but still, you have to be careful), we discovered this tooth thing during the checkup on that visit and we had to switch food that day. We needed to wait a while with this operation to get the allergic reaction under control. He'll get his regular food back again, slowly, in a few months, we're going to try and see what goes well and work with that
So hypo food now, and when the after-op directions said "wet food only for a week", I figured to just soak his kibble and that would work. He didn't mind when I tried, so. (Royal Canin doesn't have hypo wet food for cats anymore, grrrrr).
Well.. long story short, he had issues eating it, and he didn't eat nearly enough. He wanted his regular kibble, this soaked stuff is BAH!
I tried grinding his kibble and adding some water to it. Also BAH!!
I HAVE his old wet food in the house, however, risking an allergic reaction when healing, not good, I saw the inside of his mouth back when, all red and yucky. Heck no.. not risking that.
Changing over to a different hypo food was also not an option as different brands have different bases, this one works, and you never know if the other one will work just as well or if he will still get a reaction on that, so that was a no go.
Now what.. give him his kibble, risking the suture, or give him his wet food, risking allergies. GAH!
A friend who has a lot of experience with kitties, teeth issues, and sutures in the mouth had a solution. Sort of a compromise: gently grind the kibble, so not as far as I was doing, but just making the pieces smaller, like kitten kibble size. That way he'll not chew as much and he'll still get his food in.
Tried that and it works!
Of course I let the vet office know about this. Of course the vet who did the operation had two days off, and I needed to make a decision here. Sorry about the wet food violation, but a cat needs to EAT! I spoke with two assistants who both agreed with me. And it is only one suture, not his whole mouth. Eating well is very important for the healing process after all. So.. we're doing it this way and keeping the fingers crossed everything goes well. So far so good in any case. *thumbs up*
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:30 am
by JayM
He reminds me of my cat Butch, known around these parts as "Mister Butch Sir". He'll maybe eat gooshy food for one meal. Any more often than that and he just leaves most of it in his bowl and I end up having to throw it away. He must have crunchy food or he won't eat enough.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:42 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yep, same with Doerak.
Long ago when Rakker and Doerak were still young I tried giving them some raw food.
His brother?? YAYYY! Nomnommunch.
Doerak? What's that, ew, that's not kibble.
I do soak about 6 or so overnight to give him in the morning as the very first food, I put his painkiller meds (fluid) over them. Then hope he eats the soakies, and if not, oh well then not. He's been handling that open nerve in his mouth for months, he can handle this pain as well.
This morning he ate all those, licked the bowl clean and then thought that was it.
"Hey.. food??"
Wait, what? I am getting more?
Doofus

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 am
by jackdanielsesq
Vets are very special people - spent more money on my dogs healthcare than mine - dont need any.
Good luck - your cat is very fortunate - mostly they are simply euthanized
Regards
Jack
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 am
by Eadwine Rose
I am not a cook, but I am now the proud owner of this thing:
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My fingers were not handling the crushing with a spoon well, so I had to get a different solution. Works great in the small end, and it is MUCH faster too
My mate always said: when I die I want to come back as a cat and live with you!
My cats were insured, Doerak went into a better plan when his brother passed away (I had to euthanize him, it was awful to do, at such a young age

but it was best for him), so this operation should be at least partially covered. They already paid out quite a sum on Rakker back when, he had loads of issues. Glad I got the insurance alright!
People said I was nuts, insuring two healthy kittens, what would happen you know.
Yeah two years later Rakker had earned back his premiums for until he was 6 years old.. best decision ever. Doerak's premiums were pretty much always thrown in the bin, until this year

Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:20 am
by JayM
jackdanielsesq wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 am
Vets are very special people - spent more money on my dogs healthcare than mine - dont need any.
Good luck - your cat is very fortunate - mostly they are simply euthanized
Regards
Jack
We're such "frequent fliers" at our vet clinic that the owner invited us to their company picnic* and beach party a few years ago. They were sporting T-shirts that listed all of the things that veterinarians had to specialize in: pre-natal, ob/gyn, pediatrics, orthopedics, internal medicine, oncology, geriatric care, trauma, opthamology, dentistry, you name it. There were enough medical specialties listed to cover the entire shirt. And all for patients who are unable to describe their symptoms (and owners who are often too upset to be able to do so clearly and in detail.)
*featuring two
lechon baboys. charcoal-roasted suckling pigs done Cebu-style, which Anthony Bourdain said is "the best pig in the world", plus loads of side dishes. Nobody can put food away like a Filipino (especially if it's free)! We ate at around noon then everyone went back for more at around 3PM. (I did my best to keep up.) :)
Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:28 am
by Eadwine Rose
Wow haha, gotta loooove the food
Thank goodness my clinic has specialists in pretty much all areas. They don't care for just pets but also the larger animals, like horses and cows and such.
Doerak's regular vet is specialized in dermatology and internal medicine (hence perfect for the allergic reaction). The vet who assisted on my cat Stuffie's dental operations back in the day (some ten years ago) is now the main dental vet there.
It's good to know your vet, that is for sure. Just the reason TO know your vet is often less pleasant
I do know the regular vet we visit (mostly for shots and such, I always ask for him, he's nice and good with my cats) knew about MY condition. EDS is more well known in the veterinary area than the human docs know about it, amazingly enough. I asked him once about it back when I had just gotten the diagnosis. "Oh yeah I now about that" went on to describe loads of things and then "but I never met a human with it though" to which I extended my hand and said "nicetameetcha!" His eyes about popped

Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:51 am
by JayM
Vets in the US normally only do dogs and cats but there are some who specialize in large animals to fill a needed niche. My (ex) brother in law was one. Once when I was around 16 or 17 and my mother and I were visiting their home he got an emergency call and invited me to ride along (he had a van equipped as a mobile clinic.) The patient was a nanny goat who was giving birth, on a goat farm owned by an older Dutch woman and her middle-aged son. I was just standing off to the side keeping out of the way when kid #1 was born. The two owners took it off to the nursery stall that they'd prepared, but were gone for quite a long time. Meanwhile kid #2 popped out and Don had to have me hold this newborn goat while he was busy delivering #3. The owners still hadn't returned, so there I stood with a newborn goat in each arm while Don was busy with #4. I was looking toward where the owners had gone, thinking "I hope they hurry up, I'm running out of arms!" Luckily they did and took the babies away, followed by the mama.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:18 am
by AK-47
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 amMy cats were insured, Doerak went into a better plan when his brother passed away (I had to euthanize him, it was awful to do, at such a young age

but it was best for him)
And alas, despite one's best intentions, the poor thing has to go at some point. It's never an easy decision, you made a brave one. It sounds like he went the best and easy way, so you really ought to ask yourself:
is what I did really "awful?" I'd suggest that letting the alternative occur would have been the awful thing to do.
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 amPeople said I was nuts, insuring two healthy kittens, what would happen you know.
They might suddenly reveal themselves to be Robin Food and Claude Bodde, CIA, and that's when the insurance will
really pay off.
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 amYeah two years later Rakker had earned back his premiums for until he was 6 years old.. best decision ever. Doerak's premiums were pretty much always thrown in the bin, until this year

I've never taken out any kind of pet insurance myself, but another option would be to just put some money into an account or somewhere such, and only take it out when you need it. That's basically what an insurance scheme is anyway, but you get a large chunk of your savings cut out.
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:28 am"Oh yeah I now about that" went on to describe loads of things and then "but I never met a human with it though" to which I extended my hand and said "nicetameetcha!" His eyes about popped
The way you described that sounded like you shook his hand from a distance of about 10 meters with go-go-gadget arms.

Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:28 am
by Eadwine Rose
JayM wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:51 am
Vets in the US normally only do dogs and cats but there are some who specialize in large animals to fill a needed niche. My (ex) brother in law was one. Once when I was around 16 or 17 and my mother and I were visiting their home he got an emergency call and invited me to ride along (he had a van equipped as a mobile clinic.) The patient was a nanny goat who was giving birth, on a goat farm owned by an older Dutch woman and her middle-aged son. I was just standing off to the side keeping out of the way when kid #1 was born. The two owners took it off to the nursery stall that they'd prepared, but were gone for quite a long time. Meanwhile kid #2 popped out and Don had to have me hold this newborn goat while he was busy delivering #3. The owners still hadn't returned, so there I stood with a newborn goat in each arm while Don was busy with #4. I was looking toward where the owners had gone, thinking "I hope they hurry up, I'm running out of arms!" Luckily they did and took the babies away, followed by the mama.
That is the advantage of a large clinic on the edge of a lot of farmland area. They also handle the emergency calls, which is nice, because ICE then I will likely already know who the vet is.
Re: My cat will get operated on tomorrow...
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:37 am
by Eadwine Rose
AK-47 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:18 am
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:51 amMy cats were insured, Doerak went into a better plan when his brother passed away (I had to euthanize him, it was awful to do, at such a young age

but it was best for him)
And alas, despite one's best intentions, the poor thing has to go at some point. It's never an easy decision, you made a brave one. It sounds like he went the best and easy way, so you really ought to ask yourself:
is what I did really "awful?" I'd suggest that letting the alternative occur would have been the awful thing to do.
It was not awful for the cat. Not at all. The alternative was two operations on his knees and each time after that 6 weeks on bench rest. This is a cat that was VERY easily scared, VERY easily spooked by even my helper (he sat behind the tv all day the first time she had been here, didn't come out until the evening), and he LOVED being outside in the enclosure and just plain doing his own thing. It was a hard decision for ME to make. The chance of success with the operation was pretty much 100%, but I had to weigh his quality of life vs that bench rest. He was in pain, so I had to do something... I chose his quality of life, even though he might have lived for 10 more years after... cats don't live in "yeah but in 12 weeks this is all over". They live in the now.. and having an utterly unhappy cat.. no. Life needs to be enjoyed, not suffered, and he was just not the cat that could handle it.
It was awful for me, and for his brother who had to live without him. That night I let Doerak into the bedroom (cats normally do not come into the bedroom, but leaving him to fend for himself like that.. no) and he cuddled up against me. The night after that he jumped on the window sill, fell down and smacked his body into the pointy end of the bed, with no injury.. or so I thought.. well.. now I know that is how long he's been having this tooth thing going on.
Needless to say: the bed got a bumper the next day, and there has been a stool since then to make the jump easier.
The way you described that sounded like you shook his hand from a distance of about 10 meters with go-go-gadget arms.

I am bendy and stretchy, but not THAT stretchy!
Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:43 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Tomorrow afternoon is checkup time, if all is ok he will get his shots and then we can go home again. Hopefully that'll be the last of it.
His insurance paid me back half the bill as per coverage, which is good :)
Here he is.. cleaning himself, just like some people drink tea: with that sticking out pinky
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Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:29 am
by Eadwine Rose
Final update
Home sweet home. Everything ok. The stitch is still there, everything is nicely closed, no need to take it out, it will dissolve on its own.
GREAT!!
The x-rays didn't show anything to be worried about, she took it since she was puzzled, only the one tooth like that, but when she had taken the x-ray she knew and she agreed that it was likely that fall onto that sharp point of the bed that was the cause of all this.
Aww poor thing, since the end of August with that stupid mouth owie.
However we now DO know that this cat does not have an issue mouth. The positive with the negative and all that. 
He's back to walking around already, happened really quickly this time. I think he's also relieved that big stress isn't happening.
Also.. she was confident that he would have been able to take his wet food no problem as he'd been on that for months without allergy issues. She had to laugh when I told her I had bought tools and had to crack all the kibble up one by one
Anyway.. annual shot also given, all done for a good number of months to come. If all keeps going ok we won't see them until next year.
Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:31 am
by JayM

GREAT NEWS!

Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:01 am
by j2mcgreg
Tremendous news!
Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:39 am
by Gerson
¡Felicitaciones a tu gato!
Re: My cat has had an operation on the 11th of June
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:46 am
by Eadwine Rose
Thanks guys!! :D