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Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:52 am
by tiger1001
hello together
i just instaled mx on a acer aspire nitro laptop (mic wont work, maybe a idea?)

then i downloaded a random appimage file (they works fine on all others, LinuxLite, Mint, etc) here nothing happens (yes, executable)
so i installed the appimagelauncher, maybe helps.
xxxxxxx happens
now nothing can be installed anymore, even with synaptic, always comes the error he have to uninstall appimagelauncher, but it is not possible, all possibilitys comes with a error
Entfernen von appimagelauncher (2.1.0-travis897~d1be7e7+bionic) ...
Removing AppImageLauncher as interpreter for AppImages
+ systemctl restart systemd-binfmt
System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.
Failed to connect to bus: Der Rechner ist nicht aktiv
dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Paketes appimagelauncher (--remove):
»installiertes appimagelauncher-Skript des Paketes post-removal«-Unterprozess gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
appimagelauncher
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
1. how can i remove this appimagelauncher ?
2. how can i start appimages on mx linux ?
(3. maybe someone can guide me to a place who helps with the microphon_not_working_acer-aspire-vn7)

i am reading forums for one week, hours a day . . . . . cant find solutions
thanks for help

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:15 am
by manyroads
This should answer your questions... viel spaß.

http://eirenicon.org/knowledge-base/usi ... appimages/

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:50 am
by fehlix
tiger1001 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:52 am hello together
i just instaled mx on a acer aspire nitro laptop (mic wont work, maybe a idea?)
For specific help requests open new thread with informative topic. (Don't hijack other threads.)
tiger1001 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:52 am then i downloaded a random appimage file (they works fine on all others, LinuxLite, Mint, etc) here nothing happens (yes, executable)
so i installed the appimagelauncher, maybe helps.
To get better help, be more specific. Where did you download what from?
And what Appimage you have tried to run?
Please give some more details.
Note: Running Appimage is so "simple", normally one would not need any special tools for it.
AppImage Launcher type of tools do try automatically integrate in to the menu system, but this could be als done manually with some clicks, I suppose.
:puppy:

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:05 pm
by tiger1001
manyroads wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:15 am This should answer your questions... viel spaß.

http://eirenicon.org/knowledge-base/usi ... appimages/
thank you for that, but i use appimages since years on many different linuxdistros without problems.
nobody understand my question? is my text incomprehensible?

this is first time i try MX Linux and they wont work.
thats why i ask here this questions.
i dont want to try any longer. . . . . but i cant remove it. synaptic cant remove it.
if i have to make a new install of MX to remove this, then i will change the distro.

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:19 pm
by tiger1001
fehlix wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:50 am For specific help requests open new thread with informative topic. (Don't hijack other threads.)
i dont want to make more and more different topics . is it not the same issue?
fehlix wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:50 am To get better help, be more specific. Where did you download what from?
> https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImage ... r/releases
fehlix wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:50 am And what Appimage you have tried to run?
Rambox-0.7.3-linux-x86_64.AppImage
fehlix wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:50 am Note: Running Appimage is so "simple", normally one would not need any special tools for it.
AppImage Launcher type of tools do try automatically integrate in to the menu system, but this could be als done manually with some clicks, I suppose.
i know
synaptic cant remove the appimageLauncher in mx-linux
how is it possibel

thanks

maybe you know where i have to ask the problem with the microphone with mx-linux on a acer-nitro ?
im not use to write in forums
thanks

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:55 pm
by Buck Fankers
tiger1001 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:19 pm i dont want to make more and more different topics . is it not the same issue?
It is rule we have here. Each topic/question/problem should be submitted in a separate thread. There is reason for this. You would like volunteers to help you, but you refuse to follow simple rules?

You need to ask in Help forum, here: (this thread is for packages requests)
viewforum.php?f=104

Here you have a guide, how to do it: (when asking about microphone, don't forget to paste Quick System Info from MX Tools)
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=29042

You said you downloaded 'random' app image. Not all appimages will work on all systems. Depends, how they are packaged, what dependencies are included and so on. Sometimes some dependencies are missing.

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:16 pm
by manyroads
Moderators: Perhaps this thread should simply be closed.

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:27 pm
by fehlix
tiger1001 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:19 pm maybe you know where i have to ask the problem with the microphone with mx-linux on a acer-nitro ?
As mentioned do open a new Thread and describe your issue,including do post "Quick System Info" (found with the menu).
tiger1001 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:19 pm https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImage ... r/releases
Rambox-0.7.3-linux-x86_64.AppImage
synaptic cant remove the appimageLauncher in mx-linux
how is it possibel
OK, with those information and the error message within your post above trying to uninstall:
"Entfernen von appimagelauncher (2.1.0-travis897~d1be7e7+bionic) ..."
we have a better picture of the situation.
So you downloaded from
https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImage ... r/releases
this
deb-package appimagelauncher_2.1.0-travis897.d1be7e7.bionic_amd64.deb
And you installed it with MX-19 and now you are got stuck.
OK, first comment, packages marked for Ubuntu might simply not run in Debian based MX Linux.

Next, looking into the deb-packages, it appears the deb-packages is intentionally written in way,
that it will only install and run when booted with systemd boot option.
So now what -- how to get out of this mess?

If your intention is to get rid / uninstall, do this
Open as normal user a Terminal and run this:

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sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/appimagelauncher.postrm
sudo apt purge appimagelauncher
OTHO, I've tested further this deb-package, and it appears to work well, despite it is intended for Ubuntu.
So, if you want to keep it. Do this.
Reboot and select with GRUB menu Advanced -> the systemd menuenty.
Now purge and re-install again, e.g from command line:

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sudo apt purge appimagelauncher
sudo apt install ./appimagelauncher_2.1.0-travis897.d1be7e7.bionic_amd64.deb
OK, now take a Appimage and see whether you can run it.

Some appimages, mainly those big fat Electron based apps like Rambox-0.7.3-linux-x86_64.AppImage
will not start, unless you do some further adjustments.
Most of those do have a chromium-sandbox issue, and chromium recently introduced stopping
running without a proper "secure" sandbox.

You might find some "smart" advises out there to run
with those "insecure" kernel options like "kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone=1"
or even start with option --no-sandbox
Don't do that! It's highly not recommended esp. for Apps going out into the internet.

The recommended way would be to enable sandbox-feature of the kernel itself.
You would do this with MX Linux by installing either of those 5.x kernels:
Liquorix 64 bit ... 64 bit latest from MX TEST repo
antiX 5.x 64 bit ... antiX 5.x 64 bit
Which you can do using MX Package Installer -> Populare Apps -> Kernels
MXPI-Kernels.png
After you installed either of those do reboot and select the systems-menu entry
for those kernel, which would currently look like this
MX 19 patito feo, with Linux 5.4.0-13.3-liquorix-amd64 (systemd)
or
MX 19 patito feo, with Linux 5.2.21-antix.2-amd64-smp (systemd)
mx-19-kernel-5x.png
And you AppimageLauncher will work
even with those Appimgages like Rambox-0.7.3-linux-x86_64.AppImage
which do require a secure sandbox.
:puppy:
EDIT: some adjustments re kernel versions

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:35 pm
by Stevo
Agree, but we update the Liquorix kernel roughly every week, so I would not recommend a specific version. MX Package Installer can install the latest Liquorix, but you should make sure your DKMS drivers will build with it if you need them. The ones that give the most trouble are the Nvidia drivers.

Re: AppImageLauncher

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:40 pm
by fehlix
Stevo wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:35 pm Agree, but we update the Liquorix kernel roughly every week, so I would not recommend a specific version.
Thanks, will adjust ..the note.