MX Linux Forum

sunrat wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:47 am

seaken64 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:49 pm I am happy with Clementine on MX when I have a computer that can handle it (usually run MX on at least a 2-core and 2MB RAM). But if I only have 1MB RAM or a Pentium class I use antiX.

I assume you mean 1GB RAM, 1MB would barely run 1% of a really light Linux! :D

Clementine is pretty good for music management, but for lightweight I'd recommend Cantata which is a nice mpd client.

DeadBeef is my favourite player which I use every day, but it's not a music collection manager.

Oops! Yes, I meant to type 1GB. I made the correction in the original post.

Don't forget to check the test repo to see if you can get a newer version there, too!

https://repology.org/project/cantata/versions

Thanks for all the leads on players and/or music managers.

I have started trying some of these out. But I have noticed that there is quite a bit of stuff being downloaded and added. For now I have been using an MX-18 install. But I do eventually want to install whatever I like on antiX.

Am I going to get my system messed up if I install and then delete these programs? I've tried out both guayadeque and gogglesmm so far and they both installed a lot of extra packages. (I started to look at RadioTray, which was not mentioned here but I saw it elsewhere. That package was going to install a lot of additional packages. I said no and did not attempt it.) I'm just not sure of what I am doing. I am using a machine for testing these out that I don't really care if it gets messed up. But the machine I want to keep in service is limited to using a LiveUSB with persistence. My plan is to try the package out and if I don't like it I will delete it.

Seaken64

I'm not sure about the server/client approach. Can I install the server and client on the same machine? If so, that may work out okay. Not sure if I want to have it on the network.

Seaken64

seaken64 wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:32 pm I'm not sure about the server/client approach. Can I install the server and client on the same machine? If so, that may work out okay. Not sure if I want to have it on the network.

Seaken64

yes, it doens't really need a network, although it can be used that way.

You can remove the players you don't want and then run
to remove all the extra stuff they pulled in.

Thanks Bluesguy, I'll check out Audacious.

So far I've tried:
Guayadeque - won't install to menu, some permissions problem. Streams start playing but then quit after a few seconds. I like this interface and wish I could get it to work.

Gogglesmm - it played the stream nicely. But I could not figure out how to add a stream to a list. Crashed when I tried the "New Radio Station" menu selection.

gzine - plays stream nice. The playlist menu added the link to my stream on it's own, using my filename that I used when I downloaded the link. Not bad. But a player only.

Sayonara - nice player. Running list of the titles as they are played ends upon the Playlist area. Can create a streams drop-down list and save it. The window does not fit my screen and had to use Maximize to see everything.

Gmusicbrowser - couldn't figure out how to play internet radio streams.

Cantata/mpd - this is the best so far. Not as nice looking as guayadeque or Clementine but servicable. It works good and has the nice music management features. It has Shoutcast built in which is nice, similar to what I use in streamtuner2. Lightweight. Probably a keeper.

Could not get the following installed:
Quodlibet - missing dependencies
pragha - not in standard antiX repo
Lollypop - not in standard antiX repo
deadbeef - not in standard antiX repo

Seaken64

Bluesguy wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:23 pm Yeah, you should really give Audacious a shot. I also use Cantata for really hi-rez audio output ... the sound quality is great ... I have my reservations regarding it's lightweight capacity on older hardware though, try it though ... then use both ... Audacious (basics)+Cantata (great internet-radio support) ... forget the other stuff ... once you've decided, let me know and I'll help you easily clean-out the other stuff you've experimented with ...

Ok, thanks. I'll get back to this tomorrow. Watching the BB tournament.

Seaken64

Stevo wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:35 pm Don't forget to check the test repo to see if you can get a newer version there, too!

https://repology.org/project/cantata/versions

I tried to use the newer version from the test repo. But it threw up an error about dependencies. This was on antiX. The version in the standard repo works.

The newer version installed fine on MX.

Bluesguy wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:23 pm Yeah, you should really give Audacious a shot. I also use Cantata for really hi-rez audio output ... the sound quality is great ... I have my reservations regarding it's lightweight capacity on older hardware though, try it though ... then use both ... Audacious (basics)+Cantata (great internet-radio support) ... forget the other stuff ... once you've decided, let me know and I'll help you easily clean-out the other stuff you've experimented with ...

Yes, Audacious is a good player. And it is easier than SMPlayer to add internet radio stations. The interface is a little harder for me. I think the tabs need to stay in place? I could not find a "section" or separate "listing" for radio stations. Just set up playlists on tabs.

I like Cantata because it allows browsing sources inside the program. With Audacious I can save files outside of the program and then add them. But in Cantata I can add the stations I want from inside and add to "favorites".

Part of the equation for me is that I am setting up the music player for the store, where I am not the user everyday. I don't want to have to set everything up before hand. If my wife want to look around and play something I did not set up for her it is easier to do that in Cantata (like in streamtuner2).

But, yes, I think I will setup both. Audacious will be setup with a few stations, by me, and can be used as a backup. Currently they are using AccuRadio through the browser. It works but it pegs the CPU at 100% all the time. I think Cantanta is light enough. It is only one program at a time. The computer is not used for anything else but playing the music.

So, the winners are ... Contata/mpd and Audacious.

Seaken64