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malspa wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:53 pm I've downloaded it and I'm booted into it. I can open a text file with nano from the command line, but not if I try to do the same thing from Thunar (right-click on the file, select Open With "Nano", that doesn't work, throws up the xterm error).

Richard wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:09 pm I ran the script on 32 bit EeePC without problems.

kmathern wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:58 pmIs xterm installed?

Richard wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:57 pm Probably cause featherpad was removed.
Must be hardwired to use featherpad?

malspa wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:21 pm From the live session, can't install packages. Hm. The debian.list file looks good, but apt search doesn't find any packages that aren't already installed (same with searching via Synaptic). Or is this normal?

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:32 pm

malspa wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:21 pm From the live session, can't install packages. Hm. The debian.list file looks good, but apt search doesn't find any packages that aren't already installed (same with searching via Synaptic). Or is this normal?

did you update your sources? if not, this is normal.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:31 pm there is a mimetype file in the home folder that specifies featherpad as the default. this is part of the desktop-defaults-xfce-mx17 package.
I forget exactly where, maybe under ~/.local

malspa wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:21 pm From the live session, can't install packages. Hm. The debian.list file looks good, but apt search doesn't find any packages that aren't already installed (same with searching via Synaptic). Or is this normal?

manyroads wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:52 pm

malspa wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:21 pm From the live session, can't install packages. Hm. The debian.list file looks good, but apt search doesn't find any packages that aren't already installed (same with searching via Synaptic). Or is this normal?

I can't say. I always sync synaptic before trying anything.

malspa wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:02 pm Yeah, sorry, my brain wasn't working there for a moment. Or something.

dphn wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:04 pm I'm saying it yesterday. For this an additional package like desktop-defaults-xfce-mx-minimal for replace the desktop-defaults-xfce-mx17 is needed with the content from /usr/local/bin for MX autostarts but without configurations for specific apps only available in full version.

uca.xml from MX has also featherpad entries and is included in desktop-defaults-xfce-mx17 package.

Richard wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:30 pm Better and better! :)

Is there a way a smart person could 'down the road' create a script that allows an installer to select the language and load the appropriate locales for their situation?

Isn't there a risk for a system installed from such a tailored respin to be slightly inconsistent ? I mean, apt would think some packages are (fully) installed even though some of their files have been removed or purged

manyroads wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:57 pm @skidoo I suppose I could just pick the major Western languages (1 each for the locales) French, German, English, Italian, Russian (and hope that almost everyone could make sense of that) and then have a note in the readme telling them to use MX Tools to add a language of their preference.

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am Seriously, most of the world knows English or Spanish these days.

cyrilus31 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:09 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am Seriously, most of the world knows English or Spanish these days.

Seriously do you have any figures that substantiate your "theory" ?

asqwerth wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:19 am Haha, I knew a French speaker would take objection with this!

[ADDED: and this Forum has a good number of them]

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:26 am

cyrilus31 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:09 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am Seriously, most of the world knows English or Spanish these days.

Seriously do you have any figures that substantiate your "theory" ?

If I take a look at the entire Dutch population, pretty much everyone under 60 and over 12 speaks and reads English without a problem.

baldyeti wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:05 am
Now the (live) boot language selection is still useful in activating a keyboard layout, but perhaps it should be checked what happens if the LANG environment variable is wrong. For example, what happens if one selects "Dutch (BE)" and the LANG variable gets set to nl_BE.UTF-8 ? Will apps gracefully fall back to en_US.UTF-8 locale or default to "C" without UTF-8 support ? Perhaps for a minimalist respin some script within the live-iso initrd needs to be altered to always set LANG to a valid (installed/supported) value.

anticapitalista wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:16 am BTW using the MX set systems locale app fails to set up Greek (running live)

rasat wrote: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:31 pm I tested your minimal script. Background and pre-username was removed in lightdm. Is this supposed be in minimal?

That's 270 MB installed for the locales, right? If that's so, you won't gain that much on the ISO, since xz may [..]

cyrilus31 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:09 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am Seriously, most of the world knows English or Spanish these days.

Seriously do you have any figures that substantiate your "theory" ?

skidoo wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:32 pm manyroads, your attention to practicality has produced a good result. angels are singing...

That's 270 MB installed for the locales, right? If that's so, you won't gain that much on the ISO, since xz may [..]

That's an excellent point, certainly worth mentioning (for the benefit of future readers) but, IIRC, "xz" is not the default (neither for isosnapshot nor for the remastering tool) and, ultimately, worrying about how much/little it gains, iso-sizewise, is a mislplaced priority.

...

Stevo wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:35 pm

cyrilus31 wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:09 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:07 am Seriously, most of the world knows English or Spanish these days.

Seriously do you have any figures that substantiate your "theory" ?

In the Star Trek universe, everyone in the galaxy speaks freaking English, even uncontacted planets!

anticapitalista wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:16 am BTW using the MX set systems locale app fails to set up Greek (running live)

sudo apt update
sudo apt install --reinstall locales

fehlix wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:47 pm install Greek (or French ;=), and have the menus nicely in these beautiful languages.

fehlix wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:47 pm

anticapitalista wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:16 am BTW using the MX set systems locale app fails to set up Greek (running live)

Ok, the locale system is broken due to the removed locale defintions.
To fix :
The locale defintions needs to be reinstalled,
e.g. with this:

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sudo apt update
sudo apt install --reinstall locales

After doing this, I start the system-locale app with MX tools
and install Greek (or French ;=), and have the menus nicely in these beautiful languages.

Richard wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:36 am Thanks, Mark.

Appreciate your efforts for the benefit of all of us.

Richard.

skidoo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:17 pm gtkorphan would probably detect many of these.
They probably got marked "manually installed" during the initial build process (and don't show up in --autoremove list).

Richard wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:06 pm Here's my final, I hope, modification of your script to reduce the size and configure my installs.
Perhaps it is just a base install for my use. Perhaps others might find it of some use.

manyroads wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:18 pm Hello all.

I have uploaded the current version to archive.org. All future releases will be placed there as well.

https://archive.org/details/MX18ContinuumMinimal5

demo@mx1:~
$ su root
Password: 
root@mx1:/home/demo# inxi -t cm10 -Fxxxz -v 8
System:
  Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 tk: Gtk 2.24.31 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.18.3 Distro: MX-18_x64 Continuum Dec 20  2018 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:
  Type: Virtualbox System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: N/A 
  Chassis: Oracle Corporation type: 1 serial: N/A 
  Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: N/A BIOS: innotek v: VirtualBox 
  date: 12/01/2006 
Memory:
  RAM: total: 2.30 GiB used: 365.9 MiB (15.6%) 
  RAM Report: message: No RAM data was found. 
...
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 1.80 GiB used: 15.5 MiB (0.8%) fs: overlay 
  source: ERR-102 label: N/A uuid: N/A 
  ID-2: /live/boot-dev raw size: 832.0 MiB size: 831.0 MiB (99.88%) 
  used: 831.0 MiB (100.0%) fs: iso9660 block size: 2048 B dev: /dev/sr0 
  label: MXLIVE uuid: 2019-01-19-13-09-08-00 
  ID-3: /live/linux raw size: 806.5 MiB size: N/A (hidden?) used: N/A (hidden?) 
  fs: squashfs dev: /dev/loop0 label: N/A uuid: N/A 
  ID-4: /media/sf_TMP raw size: N/A size: 536.51 GiB used: 516.91 GiB (96.3%) 
  fs: vboxsf source: ERR-102 label: N/A uuid: N/A 
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found. 
...
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://fr.mirror.mxlinux.de/packages/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://fr.mirror.mxlinux.de/packages/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Processes:
  CPU top: 10 
  1: cpu: 5.8% command: applet.py started by: python3 pid: 3681 mem: 32.7 MiB (1.3%) 
  2: cpu: 5.2% command: xorg pid: 3152 mem: 51.9 MiB (2.2%) 
  3: cpu: 4.3% command: tumblerd pid: 3796 mem: 36.5 MiB (1.5%) 
  4: cpu: 4.2% command: apt-notifier.py started by: python pid: 3865 
  mem: 85.7 MiB (3.6%) 
  5: cpu: 2.7% command: libwhiskermenu.so started by: wrapper-1.0 pid: 3801 
  mem: 24.5 MiB (1.0%) 
  6: cpu: 2.4% command: xfwm4 pid: 3626 mem: 19.7 MiB (0.8%) 
  7: cpu: 1.6% command: pulseaudio pid: 3695 mem: 11.4 MiB (0.4%) 
  8: cpu: 1.5% command: [loop0] pid: 292 mem: 0.00 MiB (0.0%) 
  9: cpu: 1.3% command: yad pid: 3679 mem: 60.6 MiB (2.5%) 
  10: cpu: 1.0% command: xfce4-session pid: 3616 mem: 15.1 MiB (0.6%) 
  Memory top: 10 
  1: mem: 85.7 MiB (3.6%) command: apt-notifier.py started by: python pid: 3865 
  cpu: 4.2% 
  2: mem: 62.8 MiB (2.6%) command: nm-applet pid: 3677 cpu: 0.9% 
  3: mem: 60.6 MiB (2.5%) command: yad pid: 3679 cpu: 1.3% 
  4: mem: 55.0 MiB (2.3%) command: light-locker pid: 3669 cpu: 0.7% 
  5: mem: 53.9 MiB (2.2%) command: xfce4-notifyd pid: 3708 cpu: 0.5% 
  6: mem: 53.8 MiB (2.2%) command: polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 pid: 3680 
  cpu: 0.6% 
  7: mem: 51.9 MiB (2.2%) command: xorg pid: 3152 cpu: 5.2% 
  8: mem: 36.5 MiB (1.5%) command: tumblerd pid: 3796 cpu: 4.3% 
  9: mem: 32.7 MiB (1.3%) command: applet.py started by: python3 pid: 3681 cpu: 5.8% 
  10: mem: 31.5 MiB (1.3%) command: xfce4-terminal pid: 3846 cpu: 0.9% 
Info:
  Processes: 159 Uptime: N/A Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
  Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 alt: 6 Shell: bash (su) v: 4.4.12 running in: xfce4-terminal 
  inxi: 3.0.29 
root@mx1:/home/demo# free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:        2408708      315476     1395132       23172      698100     1919300
Swap:             0           0           0
root@mx1:/home/demo# cat /proc/cmdline 
lang=fr_FR quiet
root@mx1:/home/demo# 

oops wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:45 am

manyroads wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:18 pm Hello all.

I have uploaded the current version to archive.org. All future releases will be placed there as well.

https://archive.org/details/MX18ContinuumMinimal5

872MO for the MX-18_x64 Continuum iso,
and RAM: at start at 365.9 MiB
it's light, congratulations .

(I have just installed pluma into the VM, because I do not like nano)

FI:
[...]

oops wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:20 am [...]

Maybe apt-notifier.py can be removed too ? (with synaptic and MXPI)
1: mem: 85.7 MiB (3.6%) command: apt-notifier.py started by: python pid: 3865
cpu: 4.2%

oops wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:55 am Re:
No I have not tested, but to save 85.7 MiB more memory : chmod -x /usr/bin/apt-notifier.py # should work.

manyroads wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:56 am

oops wrote: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:55 am Re:
No I have not tested, but to save 85.7 MiB more memory : chmod -x /usr/bin/apt-notifier.py # should work.

I'll try it out when I get a chance. Thanks!

guido67 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:32 pm So this is a newbie question.....
How/where do I begin to create my own iso from this script?
Thanks

manyroads wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:44 pm

guido67 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:32 pm So this is a newbie question.....
How/where do I begin to create my own iso from this script?
Thanks

The download is an ISO.
https://archive.org/details/MX18ContinuumMinimal5

guido67 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:47 pm Hi manyroads,
I'm aware of that. :) Can I use your script to create my own personal iso?
Thanks

manyroads wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:26 pm Hello all.

Not having done this before in the MX-world, I am pleased to announce the "release" of MX18 Continuum (Minimal). I have completed everything I can think of to build a MX18 Minimal install image (iso).

For those of you who have not been following the forum discussion on the creation of a Minimal MX Install be advised, this is not a re-creation of antiX. This is truly a "minimalist version" of MX 18 Continuum.

This 'minimal' MX Linux 18 Continuum build is designed to provide you with the basic core of MX Continuum --minus-- all major applications, extra Conkies, icons and themes. The intent of this build is to provide you with a 'reasonably' clean MX base from which to build personal and/or shared MX Desktops. I am using this base both for my personal Desktop and to build a Children's Education Desk using MXLinux 18 as its base.

Should you decide that you would rather build this manually, from the regular MX19 install set, you certainly may. There are a few items, in addition to those in the script, you will need to remove via MXPI. They are enumerated below:

#################################
# Remove the following with MXPI:
# Numix (Icon & Window Themes)
# Faenza (Icon theme)
# Faenza-cupertino (Icon theme)
# Arc (Window Theme)
#################################

In addition to all the applications that have been removed, all Conky scripts, excepting those in MX-Default & MX-Elementary folders, have been removed.

If you wish to run my script and/or build a script of your own here is mine to edit as a basis for yours:

#################################
#!/bin/bash
sudo apt-get remove --purge aisleriot asunder chromium-bsu chromium-bsu-data clementine clipit dconf-editor dict fbreader featherpad feh firefox galculator
geany geany-common gimp gimp-data gmtp gnome-hearts gnome-mahjongg gnome-ppp gnome-schedule gscan2pdf gsmartcontrol gtkhash gtkhash-common guvcview* hexchat htop lbreakout2 lbreakout2-data libreoffice* lightning luckybackup luckybackup-data mc mc-data nomacs nomacs-l10n onboard onboard-common onboard-data orage pdfshuffler peg-e pppoeconf qpdfview* samba samba-common samba-common-bin samba-libs simple-scan smtube swell-foop thunar-gtkhash thunderbird vlc xfce4-notes xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-sensors-plugin xfce4-taskmanager
#
sudo apt autoremove --purge
#################################

The download for the materials I created will be housed in my Dropbox folder for a while. Hopefully someone has a better place for these to reside; if so, please transfer them there and let me know so I can recover my space for additional Genealogy data!

Enjoy.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w0g0nzahapkx ... NbePa?dl=0

manyroads wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:11 am I have no intention of maintaining a minimal version of MX on archive or sourceforge or github. However, if you would like to do so feel free to 'fork my work'.

peter_li wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:41 am

manyroads wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:11 am I have no intention of maintaining a minimal version of MX on archive or sourceforge or github. However, if you would like to do so feel free to 'fork my work'.

Hallo manyroads,

so at least correct the link to the iso which is no longer in your dropbox, please.

peter_li wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:59 am I got the following notice:

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root@Monastir:~# apt-get remove --purge gcc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 virtualbox-guest-utils : Depends: virtualbox-guest-dkms (= 5.2.24-dfsg-4~mx17+1) but it is not going to be installed or
                                   virtualbox-guest-source (= 5.2.24-dfsg-4~mx17+1) but it is not going to be installed or
                                   virtualbox-guest-modules
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

So I wonder what do I have to do with virtualbox?
Where i the relationship?

Is gcc not only used for developers? So save to uninstall?