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I've been hearing and reading a lot of good things about Deepin's latest 15.8 release based on Sid, I believe. Apparently, they've squashed a number of the earlier bugs and polished it up pretty nicely with a solid software center. I also understand they've designed the DE to be able to be incorporated into other distros. I believe Manjaro has an unofficial Deepin spin. I don't buy that whole Chinese spyware schtick. I mean, there are a lot better targets than random linux users. Hell, Windows is probably more worrisome. So ... has anyone given it a shot? I'm thinking about throwing it in to a VM and giving it a spin around the block just for something to do this weekend. I heard the DE is pretty sweet, and quite newbie friendly which we need more of.

No, and I never will.

I have Deepin on one partition and as DE on Manjaro. The desktop is nice and polished.

Base is Debian and as a speciality they use WPS office. This looks more like MS Office but libreoffice can be installed. A dock at the bottom is standard.

I have tried Deepin, both the native version and the Manjaro spin. It is a beautifully constructed OS with a unique system settings app.
Both worked flawlessly on both a vm and normal hardware. The native version is Debian based and uses their repos. The Manjaro spin is of course is based on Arch and uses their repos including AUR.
I prefered the Manjaro spin, maybe because its Arch based but was notably faster than the native Debian version. The only thing that annoyed me is that the window themes and decorations are hard coded in the native Deepin apps and could not be changed to whatever i prefered. But definitely worh a try

Have they switched to Debian base? Could have sworn that Deepin the distro started as an Ubuntu variant.

Tried it a long time ago when it first came out, on my old pc. Found it heavy on resources. Never bothered again.

I could test the DE on either of my 2 manjaro installs but I can't be bothered.

Have they switched to Debian base? Could have sworn that Deepin the distro started as an Ubuntu variant.

Expanding on what svx_biker mentioned, Yes, debian unstable since 2015. Check it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepin
I really admire their Deepin Terminal (terminal emulator app, forked from guake) and the "polish" + ease of use they've accomplished with various other apps they've developed in-house.

I tried it last year in October, and although it has a nice graphic design, you can not make many changes in the design as I like it, they have WPS in exchange for LibreOffice and I do not like how it works, the repositories are very slow and the community does not help much. In that test of distributions was when I met in November 2017 with the beta of MX 17 and from the first moment I tried it I knew I was going to stay here and that happened, now I'm in MX 18 and I do not change to any other Although I have tried a couple of distributions just to compare, MX winner always comes out so I do not try anything else.

Have tried it for a while. They also provide Codeweavers 'Crossover'. deepin and Codeweavers work together in many ways, I think.
System runs fine, but updates are slow from chinese servers. There are no 'normal' Debian Sid mirrors. Sources are deepin mirrors only. O.k. Version 15.8 not tested by me. Maybe there are changing a lot of those things. I don't know.

DE looks fine. You like it or not. That's it. Only a few modifications are possible.

For that, I love Xfce.

I have an archdeepin ISO floating around on the web, I made it for my own personnel use, I adding an installer to see if it worked, and it did. So I released it to the public, Has a live environment, its 100 times better than deepin. Its fast, uses about 480mb at first boot, no problems with updates etc because it uses the arch repos, obviously. Does not have a lot of software installed OOTB, and does not have the controversial deepin software manager.

If your familiar with arch and like the DDE its a fantastic ISO

Good King Wenceslas looked out, on the Feast of Stephen,
When the snow lay round about,

Deepin crisp and even!

antechdesigns wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:10 pm I have an archdeepin ISO floating around on the web, I made it for my own personnel use, I adding an installer to see if it worked, and it did. So I released it to the public, Has a live environment, its 100 times better than deepin. Its fast, uses about 480mb at first boot, no problems with updates etc because it uses the arch repos, obviously. Does not have a lot of software installed OOTB, and does not have the controversial deepin software manager.

If your familiar with arch and like the DDE its a fantastic ISO

I didn't like the regular Deepin distro. There was nothing wrong with the DE, which is quite beautiful actually, and the distro seemed nice enough. It was mostly that their servers seemed slow and everything took forever to happen, from the ISO download on up. I found your archdeepin ISO (10/19/18 version) which I guess is the latest. I'm going to put it into a VM to check it out. I have a feeling it's going to tempt me to try it on hardware.

I think the last time I tried it (before they optimized), from memory - so don't take it literally without checking, they seemed improving a lot and faaast, like in one release they said ram went down from 1.2G to 0.8.

-it was too heavy (above 1gig ram) on my 5 year old 6Gb ram, i5-1Gen Compaq. And getting heavier once you start opening browser or LO docs. Bad for Debian based.
-installation demanded >20gig drive, not sure now, but recall it went weird as it needed the whole drive to swallow
-overfloated with software, especially emulators etc, many apps installed recall also Android apps like WeChat, WhatsApp, games etc.
-what I didn't like about their software manager, it wanted me to sign up, which was weird, otherwise I couldn't install anything.
-A lot of (for some useful, for others not) Chinese software, like Baidu Pan/ Yun drive, which is a good thing (do they offer 1TB cloud storage?).
-Basically too much "want to be Mac or Win (or shall I say iPad)" feel
-were many bugs here and there once you start opening apps
. Felt heavy
- if I recall correctly, it's run by a Chinese company from Chengdu or Chongqing, so at the end of day companies in China want to make money, there isn't much else to expect long-term
- spying issue may not be true, probably just some stats on software manager usage, something more innocent like Ubuntu/Amazon or Google do... Remember reading a response by deepin devs about.
-sure, if you use third applications preinstalled like WeChat Messenger, who knows what gets checked

It was some 1 year ago.

I never could get the archdeepin iso to download. It kept stopping part way through. So I finally used Manjaro Architect to get the latest Manjaro and the lastest Deepin. The Manjaro community Deepin spin is over a year old so I thought what the heck and used Architect. I haven't had time to take it for a proper spin yet, but I will tomorrow. Seems fast enough in virtualbox. I'm pretty excited to see how it works.

antechdesigns wrote: Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:10 pm I have an archdeepin ISO floating around on the web, I made it for my own personnel use, I adding an installer to see if it worked, and it did. So I released it to the public, Has a live environment, its 100 times better than deepin. Its fast, uses about 480mb at first boot, no problems with updates etc because it uses the arch repos, obviously. Does not have a lot of software installed OOTB, and does not have the controversial deepin software manager.

If your familiar with arch and like the DDE its a fantastic ISO

Great idea. Have seen your iso on your website, but it's an old version from Oct. 2018. For Arch it is recommenable to provide every month a new iso. Their packages changes fast and updating an old Arch-System isn't easy or perhaps not possible anymore.

Yes. I was a user for 2 years and now use MX17+1. It was my "go to" OS for that 2 year period. I'm not a coder or programmer...just want a nice and easy OS. Not a gamer or anything special-general user for everyday use. :)

dphn wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:45 am Great idea. Have seen your iso on your website, but it's an old version from Oct. 2018. For Arch it is recommenable to provide every month a new iso. Their packages changes fast and updating an old Arch-System isn't easy or perhaps not possible anymore.

I will be doing a new ISO soon, when I get myself motivated after the holidays

I tried the latest Deepin releases and in my opinion it is not only very beautiful, but it also has a nice and clear structure, especially for the settings where everything is easy to find.
It has become significantly faster and is now based on the stable Debian release.
It is very flexible and easy to install, even for people coming straight from Windows.
Everything is structured in a very nice way.
There are many apps available in the store and Deepin also has a number of nice tools.

One strange thing after each major Deepin-update:
The AMD video card is not able to produce a usable screen and displays only noise after login. The login screen is ok.
After a second reboot (forcing power off and power on) everthing is fine again.

Be sure to set the Deepin store (settings in the Deepin store app) to the non-Chinese mode!
I am in doubt if i should switch to Deepin or not, since MX Linux with the XFCE environment feels good.

A month ago I was testing version 15.9.3 and then version 15.10 - which is not an update but a change from an unstable version of Debian (15.9.3) to the stable version (15.10) - and I do not recommend installing it even if it comes from Debian, today it is very unstable because of the change and also because of using a desk with Kwin unfinished. Although MX does not have the aesthetics and graphic effects of Deepin, I prefer MX but I remember that with Deepin I had no problem with Bluetooth headphones as if I have them with MX without solution.

I tried once but uninstalled due to the panel. The setting panel is interesting at first install, but whats the usage once everything are set.

I like the way how updates are handled by Deepin and progress is displayed as a part of the Settings panel. Same for the installation of apps where progress is displayed 50% for the download and the other 50% for the installation.
It looks as a copy of the way apple does it with IOS. So the Settings panel is in my opinion a bit multipurpose, not only very handy for the initial settings.
But no doubt: MX Linux feels better so far.

Tried to install it but I wasn't aware that it wouldn't support btrfs so I dropped it. But the installer looks very, very nice. Surprisingly enough, it has detected my timezone, and proposed english as first choice. The disk partitioning part is just lovely. It tells you what's on the partition, how much free disk space there is there, and the design is just candy for the eye.

I will never try deepin, it's slow and Chinese. And no Chinese product is reliable and trusted like MS although Apple iPhone manufactured by them too.
One thing I started learning late, never break that's running.
I tried many distros, although not a fan of xfce, but MX is the thing that simply runs, trusted with very supportive forum and what ever I need is at left click or right click.
One thing that I only miss, a perfect KDE on MX like Linux mint KDE or kubuntu or netrunner offers. Though netrunner is based on debian with best polished KDE and all gtk as well as qt application look similar, but it's not that straight MX, I need to open CLI some time, which never required on MX.

Would not use it myself for the above reasons, but its reviewed on Distrowatch today by Robert Rijkhoff.

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu ... 902#deepin

"EKSF" anyway, why would you suspect China for a linux distro while buying practically everything else that was made in China (including consumer and professional-grade electronics).

I just wonder if there's a topic in Deepin or any other distro forums " Have You Tried MX ? " ... " They say it's snappy, light and stable ..."

@Huckleberry at least the thread is in community > chat > general :)

Yes, go on .. I don't object , just wondered :)