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Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:50 am
by asqwerth
May I respectfully request of everyone making package requests to:

1. check the MX Test Repo and Debian Backports first to see whether the package/update you want is already in there? This will save on unnecessary posts where users ask for something that has already been packaged. Use the MX Package Installer (MXPI) for the checks. The search function makes it easy to do so.

2. next, do a search of the Package Requests subforums to see if there is an existing Package Request Status thread for the package you want, for the relevant MX release. If so, you can post your request for an update in that same thread instead of making a separate new thread for the same package

3. where the package is not so common and isn't something already in the Debian repos, please give a description in your package requests as to what the package you want does/is, and where the source can be found or at least give a web link that provides more info on it. If you want an update of an existing/known package to be in the MX repos, you could just link to some webpage setting out the main bug fixes/new functions.
Don't just make abrupt one-line posts like: "Please make package ABC".

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:01 am
by Jerry3904
Good. I snuck in as Mod and made it a sticky.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:11 am
by richb
I would add make the request in the version sub forum. For example Package Requests/Status - MX 17, not in Package Requests / Status which is for developers discussing the status of the request.

I have changed the forum description to reflect this.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:58 am
by JayM
Newbie question: where do I find the MX-18 test repo's package list? Is there an FTP site I can browse?

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:04 am
by Adrian
JayM wrote: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:58 am Newbie question: where do I find the MX-18 test repo's package list? Is there an FTP site I can browse?
You can see it in MX Packageinstaller, select the MX Test tab. If you want to look at package manually, you can go to any mirror and browse to mx/testrepo/pool subfolder, like this: http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/pool/test/

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:07 am
by JayM
Ah, thanks. I always use Synaptic so I didn't think to look in that other app.

Another question: I don't see a subforum for MX-18 requests. Do they go in the MX-17 forum or here?

One more: this board's description says "For developer discussion on package requests ". Is it OK for non-developer end-users to request apps they'd like to see added??

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:43 am
by Sparky
I didn't even know we can make Package Requests :)

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:01 am
by asqwerth
Just check this sub-board and see how others have done it.

But see my first post in this thread.

Check first the MX Test Repo (and also Debian Backports!) which are easily accessible and searchable via the different tabs of MX Packageinstaller (MXPI) just to make sure it isn't packaged already.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:16 am
by JayM
Thanks, asqwerth. Got it.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:44 am
by elyasbeshkani
Please make package tor

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:45 am
by Eadwine Rose
Tor is already in MX Package Installer popular packages tab.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:53 am
by JayM
elyasbeshkani wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:44 am Please make package tor
Do you know how I know you didn't read and follow the instructions above in post #1?
1. As Eadwine Rose said, it's already there so you didn't search for it in MX Package Installer.
2. You replied to someone else's old topic with your request instead of starting your own topic here.
3. You didn't include a link to where the package managers could get Tor.
4.
Don't just make abrupt one-line posts like: "Please make package ABC".

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:25 am
by Huckleberry Finn
JayM wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:53 am"Please make package ABC".
:biggrin: That reminds :

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:44 am
by Spanker-General
I hope I'm requesting this correctly.

1. UVtools
https://github.com/sn4k3/UVtools
2. Citubox
https://www.chitubox.com/en

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:57 am
by asqwerth
@Spanker-General

No you're not.

1. post in the appropriate subforum of this package requests board dealing with the MX release you are using. Are you using MX19? MX17/18?

2. make each package request in a separate thread, with the application name in the title of the thread; and

(I'm quoting point 3 of my first post in this thread):
"3. where the package is not so common and isn't something already in the Debian repos, please give a description in your package requests as to what the package you want does/is, and where the source can be found or at least give a web link that provides more info on it. If you want an update of an existing/known package to be in the MX repos, you could just link to some webpage setting out the main bug fixes/new functions.
Don't just make abrupt one-line posts like: "Please make package ABC"."

Caveats:
- providing the source code link is advised. Without source, how are the packagers here supposed to build the package?
- if the code/software is proprietary, the packagers can't package it for our repo and will tell you so
- if the source cannot be packaged to be compatible with the Debian libraries for the MX version you are using (that's why you need to tell us that piece of info), then our packagers will tell you so.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:38 am
by asqwerth
[added] OK, it looks like you had posted in the MX19 subforum, just that you tried to combine both package requests into one general thread. Like I said, just give each separate app its own thread and its name in the thread title.

Each app will have to be addressed individually on its own particular set of circumstances.

For instance, my guess is chitubox is proprietary and can't be packaged.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:21 am
by mbooyzen
Have a question regarding rapidly developed packages, i have a few that i use appimages for but also gets updated almost monthly. Would this be possible or do I continue using the appimage until it becomes a (slower) package? Currently I use the latest and revert back to previous if I run into an issue.

Then there's a few packages that I build from source as the ones in the repo's are outdated(none in testing/backports) will send them soon.
Thank you

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:48 am
by asqwerth
Keep in mind:

1. there's a backlog, and the packaging team is doing this in their spare time.
2. so they will probably prioritise what is more important to package for MX (eg security updates, major releases).
3. a monthly request for updated packaging may or may not be deemed important, esp if the updates are just for minor changes. If so, it might be pushed to the back of the queue
4, that is why in your package request it is impt to give more details like changelog, release notes, why this particular update is important, etc. You may want to skip a few updates before making a package request. It looks like appimages are still very much available to you.
5. some updates may not be possible to build/backport on Buster base, or may take longer as it's more difficult. If so, appimages might still be better for your use case.
6. be patient.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:27 pm
by Stevo
Some packages we depend upon Debian to build upstream, and then we can rebuild them for MX.

Some rapidly developed programs are quick and trivial to update, while others take a lot of time and effort.

Re: Request to Members Making Package Requests

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 am
by mbooyzen
Okay, thanks for that. In that case i'd stick to AppImages for those. I have no idea how you do this, so thought i ask first. Thanks alot