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Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 5:56 pm
by dolphin_oracle
last I checked debian doesn't have an nvidia installer tool.
however, following the debian wiki should get you the same result as pure debian.
our nvidia-installer did receive updates after release, because the depends information for the nvidia-driver package changed in debian's repos. So make sure to do your updates before running the installer.
debian wiki procedures are followed by the installer, although I think we still make a xorg.conf file for some users that reported problems without it. You can't win sometimes.
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:09 pm
by Redacted
richb wrote:Suspend and hibernate work perfectly for me with 17 and 17.1.
Same here. I have Mx 17.1 on an old imac, and it works perfectly.
Yesterday, I removed Mint from a new computer (where resume didn't work too well) and installed Mx. Suspend/resume work perfectly.
Two very different machines, and yet it works.
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:30 am
by cyrilus31
richb wrote:And I would add, MX is not Debian with window dressing. It is based on Debian as it uses the Debian repositories. It has its own unique set of features and makes no claim to be a Debian clone. If I wanted Debian I would have installed Debian.
That perfectly sums up the difference between MX and many "pretty useless" distros, adding a new set of wallpapers here, a tool for one person there. A french youtuber call the latest DGLFI (Distribution Gnu Linux Franchement inutile / Frankly unnecessary Gnu Linux Distribution) but MX is not one of them and I'm not sure DEBIANUSER did realise all that has been accomplished.
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 4:43 am
by Protokol
cyrilus31 wrote:richb wrote:A french youtuber call the latest DGLFI
hello, do you have a link? I hope it's note Fred B.
I think not, he wrotes a good article on MxLinux 17.1
I'm enjoying everyday my MxLinux since 1 month after a lot of distro hopping on my 10 years old asus 32 bits laptop
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 5:28 am
by cyrilus31
Yes it's Frederic. Remark I said "the latest" are called DGLFI not MX Linux of course
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 5:32 am
by Protokol
ok, you're right
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:01 am
by ChrisUK
A quick fix (well, workaround) for a Black Screen on resume is to switch to a TTY and then TTY7 (or maybe TTY8). So CTRL-ALT-F1 then CTRL-ALT-F7... no need for a hard reset or REISUB.
IME, it only happens with the older Kernels (4.9 and earlier)... changing to a later Kernel fixes the problem, but can introduce others on certain older hardware (for example; 7 year old i3 Laptop with nvidia gfx).
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:24 pm
by roadapathy
I'm really selective about my Linux- I've used Ubuntu or Xubuntu since 2009. MX Linux was the ONLY distro that I have tried that could beat Ubuntu flavors. It's better in every way.
That's fine, the reviewer is missing out. Their loss.
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 2:31 pm
by Stevo
MX keeps its slim lead to remain atop the Distrowatch user ratings, despite this recent review:
Version: 17.1
Rating: 5
Date: 2018-05-08
Votes: 1
Difficulties getting a live usb to try or install, on a system that easily installs Mint etc over the last year ... 3rd try (latest April iso) worked. Issues running expressvpn and megasync debs ... ended up with having to choose the 2nd boot option, ie systemd, in order to use expressvpn. Megasync deb wouldn't install/dependencies not possible, so was stuck with the less-easy-to-use browser version. Worst issue was dealing with wine/playonlinux; MX linux prefer a staging version overall?, and I couldn't make head nor tail of how to get games to not crash. Rather confusing.
Aside from these main things, some glitches, but the system overall ran well, including Krita pressure sensitivity for non-Wacom display tablet. Better for tech-heads overall, I think, plus this distro has personal quirks that don't cover what may be useful/wanted by most. Many long-term unresolved threads on the forum, with similar issues. If it was possible to run any deb successfully and use wine/playonlinux as normal, I think that would help many trying MX, but not recommended for those new to Linux.
So they knock off five points because they have to use systemd with proprietary apps that
require it, and because some games won't work with Wine? Jeesh...luckily the large number of good reviews now insulate us from this sort of stuff. Some criticism is constructive, but other times it isn't.
BTW, uGet also has built-in support for Mega links...
Re: Distrowatch reveiw grumbles
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:05 pm
by Mauser
Stevo, that reviewer looks like a lying Linux Mint troll that gets money from Expressvpn.