I would like to see something if a simple ESC would bring up the booting text.
I wonder if we could get our name-logo done in ASCII by somebody?
How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
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Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
Alas, I don't know how to do this with a text only solution. My thought was to wait and see if there was great interest before trying to implement something like this.Jerry3904 wrote:I would like to see something if a simple ESC would bring up the booting text.
Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
Make it boot faster and there is no need for Plymouth. The more stuff we add, the longer we have to wait. Isn't there anything that can be removed instead?
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Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
If we talk about the next big release (based on Jessie) it will most likely have systemd and boot even faster, that's a valid point.Utopia wrote:Make it boot faster and there is no need for Plymouth. The more stuff we add, the longer we have to wait. Isn't there anything that can be removed instead?
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Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
The number of users who would be interested in MX and who would be turned off simply because of the lack of a bootsplash screen has to be quite tiny, I'm thinking. Probably could count them on one hand.BitJam wrote:Is it preventing some people from using MX? If so, what percentage?
Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
I have no other empirical evidence except that one newbie. My gut feel is that the text wouldn't have been a problem if ultimately, the MX text had booted into a desktop that aesthetically matched the polish and looks of Mint. She was alarmed more because she didn't know what the text was, than because it was unsightly.
But that's for newbies when there is someone else around to prepare them for the text, or explain what it is. For those who try Linux on their own, I have no idea if it scares them away or turns them off a particular distro. Or maybe they might find it cool. :-)
But that's for newbies when there is someone else around to prepare them for the text, or explain what it is. For those who try Linux on their own, I have no idea if it scares them away or turns them off a particular distro. Or maybe they might find it cool. :-)
Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
I thought it was great
compared to Win98
that I was using at the time.
Really enjoyed seeing what was happening.
Still do.
Do whatever you think will attract new users,
just leave a way to turn it off, in my instalation.
I am not a Plymouth fan.
compared to Win98
that I was using at the time.
Really enjoyed seeing what was happening.
Still do.
Do whatever you think will attract new users,
just leave a way to turn it off, in my instalation.
I am not a Plymouth fan.
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Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
Jerry wrote:
You can do it easily in the GIMP. Just export an small image to ASCII art, and you have a choice of formats of txt. Remember that each pixel in the original will become one character in the ASCII.I wonder if we could get our name-logo done in ASCII by somebody?
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Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
Back in the day when I started using Mepis for the first time I thought it was way cool to see all that text zoof by 
I was scared to press that ESC key in the beginning (then I am easily scared I break things, and I break things, so..
).
Personally I think it is not important at all, but I could see an average transitioning from Windows person look at the text and go hrmm. However if booting only lasts short and the desktop is up in no time they will go "whoa that's fast" and forget about the non-looks.

I was scared to press that ESC key in the beginning (then I am easily scared I break things, and I break things, so..

Personally I think it is not important at all, but I could see an average transitioning from Windows person look at the text and go hrmm. However if booting only lasts short and the desktop is up in no time they will go "whoa that's fast" and forget about the non-looks.
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Re: How important is a live bootsplash or lack thereof?
When I started with Linux, seeing the text boot messages didn't bother me at all; I've always preferred that instead of a splash screen. So I guess I don't see why the lack of a "bootsplash" would be a turn-off. Maybe to the same type of people who would be turned off by the command line? I don't know.Eadwine Rose wrote:Back in the day when I started using Mepis for the first time I thought it was way cool to see all that text zoof by
While I don't think it should be added only for the sake of a few people who might be turned off by it and who might decide not to use MX because of it, I'm not opposed to having a bootsplash added; those who prefer to see the boot messages will do so anyway. MX will be fine with or without it.